Shots fired, Bundy arrested

[ChristianAnarchist]

I was unsure of what exactly the FBI's drone footage depicted, but after looking at that video, I'm fairly convinced the shooting was unjustified and simply a murder/ambush.

The way the goons blow the hell out of everything I am absolutely AMAZED that anyone in the truck survived...

 

[DavesNotHere]

Not so sure what he represents.
Todd Macfarlane

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/bun...vily-armed-group-arrives-to-provide-security/

He was the one very vocal about running off all security. (who should have stayed anyway damn it)

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3391135-155/utah-group-travels-to-oregon-seeking

Thanks for that info. That was new for me. Part of me understands how he/they were looking for de-escalation and how they wanted to keep it ranchers... all of me feels those involved were, at least, a little naive of how far politicians/Feds/cops were willing to go to make a statement.

This smelled fishy from the first reports I read of LaVoy's death. The more I learn, the more it looks like The Gauntlet Part 2...

 

[DavesNotHere]

Just came across this...

"Detailed Version"
SUPPLEMENTAL STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY
2-2-2016

"The purpose of this statement is to supplement the statement we issued earlier. It does not contradict our previous statement, but only serves to supplement, support and add detail to our previous position.

At this point, based on the additional information we have now received, it is our position that not only was the shooting death of LaVoy Finicum completely unjustified, but that the FBI and Oregon State Police may also be engaging in a cover-up, and seeking to manipulate and mislead the media and the American public about what really happened.

We realize this may sound like a bold statement, but now that Shawna Cox, who was a passenger in LaVoy’s vehicle, and an eye witness, has been released from custody, we have now had the opportunity to hear yet another account, and the ability to start cross-referencing all currently available information to figure out what really happened. This has shed important additional light on the whole ordeal --especially when Cox is given the opportunity to essentially narrate what is happening in the video, from an eye witness standpoint."...

The rest of the supplemental statement-
http://media.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/other/2016/02/02/Finicum family statement2.pdf

Article By Laura Gunderson | The Oregonian/OregonLive
'LaVoy Finicum's family calls death 'unjustified,' says FBI covering up real story'
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/lavoy_finicums_family_death_un.html

 

[dannno]

Just came across this...

"Detailed Version"
SUPPLEMENTAL STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY
2-2-2016

"The purpose of this statement is to supplement the statement we issued earlier. It does not contradict our previous statement, but only serves to supplement, support and add detail to our previous position.

At this point, based on the additional information we have now received, it is our position that not only was the shooting death of LaVoy Finicum completely unjustified, but that the FBI and Oregon State Police may also be engaging in a cover-up, and seeking to manipulate and mislead the media and the American public about what really happened.

We realize this may sound like a bold statement, but now that Shawna Cox, who was a passenger in LaVoy’s vehicle, and an eye witness, has been released from custody, we have now had the opportunity to hear yet another account, and the ability to start cross-referencing all currently available information to figure out what really happened. This has shed important additional light on the whole ordeal --especially when Cox is given the opportunity to essentially narrate what is happening in the video, from an eye witness standpoint."...

The rest of the supplemental statement-
http://media.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/other/2016/02/02/Finicum family statement2.pdf

Article By Laura Gunderson | The Oregonian/OregonLive
'LaVoy Finicum's family calls death 'unjustified,' says FBI covering up real story'
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/lavoy_finicums_family_death_un.html

What did she say was happening when he first put his hands down? Did she say he was shot?

 

[goldenequity]

The shot BEFORE the snow bank

 

[goldenequity]

FBI Command Cntr entrance vs. 1 Rancher

 

[phill4paul]

The shot BEFORE the snow bank

They sure as hell didn't throw a snowball!

 

[goldenequity]

Blackstone Mercenaries.

In living color...

(fyi... they were the 'fence' ranchers.. who authorized Ammon & Lavoy to 'cut' & gate..
then became intimidated to retract/lie...
just goes to show you can never lick boots hard enough..
to ever keep the masters happy. Once you stand... don't kneel.)

 

[DamianTV]

"Lying in wait" is a term/theory used to enhance sentencing if it were regular folks committing murder.......

Guilty until proven innocent = Lying in wait

 

[JK/SEA]

 

[DavesNotHere]

What did she say was happening when he first put his hands down? Did she say he was shot?

C&P from http://media.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/other/2016/02/02/Finicum family statement2.pdf

• According to Cox, because it was very obvious that LaVoy had his hands in the air and intended to keep them there, the best explanation for LaVoy’s arguably furtive hand movements, and why he lowered his hands and reached for his side at one point is because he had already been shot, and he was reaching toward the area where he had been hit as an involuntary physical reflex, despite his fairly obvious determination to try to keep his hands in the air, as evidenced by the fact that he once again attempted to raised his hands, before being shot again and collapsing.

 

[phill4paul]

OFFICIAL STAND DOWN

In light of recent events that took place today and conversations with the FBI and people at the refuge, we have decided to stand down our PPN Call to Action.

The event Saturday is cancelled. For those that are on the road to assist, we will hold a memorial service for Lavoy Finicum at the site outside of Burns on hwy 395 at 1pm on Saturday.

http://www.pacificpatriotsnetwork.com/

 

[pcosmar]

http://www.pacificpatriotsnetwork.com/

hmm,

Opposition controlled successfully.

 

[Weston White]

Could they be anymore vague? What took place today? What was discussed? Why the stand down after the ball just started to get rolling? What good is the PPN?

 

[JK/SEA]

to those already in transit to the scene, it was suggested they all have a memorial gathering at the spot of Lavoy's murder. I think i have that right.

 

[PursuePeace]

Haven't seen this posted yet:

 

[pcosmar]

If you were sitting there,,

Would you believe the FBI,, or anyone at this point??

These people have Death or Prison to choose between. Hard choice.


edit,,
how much is that like the Presidential election?

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

If you were sitting there,,

Would you believe the FBI,, or anyone at this point??

These people have Death or Prison to choose between. Hard choice.


edit,,
how much is that like the Presidential election?

Couldn't trust the bastards but what other option do they have?? There's no way the goons are going to let them leave that place alive unless they are in chains. I suppose they could leave there in chains and then try to get a good lawyer to get them off with minor charges. Don't know what they would even be charged with at this point but I'm sure they have a list of "crimes" a mile long up to and including "terrorism"...

 

[Weston White]

Why don't they just call them, certainly they have access to their cellphones? Also, Ammon made no mention of any of this in his recent letter from jail. So does he really feel this way?

 

[DavesNotHere]

Why don't they just call them, certainly they have access to their cellphones? Also, Ammon made no mention of any of this in his recent letter from jail. So does he really feel this way?

This is from yesterday...