Shots fired, Bundy arrested

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oregon-militia-idUSKCN0V610F

Fry said that the small group had been in contact with the FBI, who had pledged not to arrest anyone not subject to a federal warrant.

"(But) it turns out that if you do leave they end up charging you later, they're pressing charges on everybody who was here, it sounds like," he said. "That's like 5 years of prison sentence, its a felony. So of course if you get a felony you can't vote any more and they take your guns away."
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File this under "well, duh."

Ending the standoff peacefully means "go home, we'll arrest you later." This was probably my second or third thought when I was originally made aware of what Bundy was doing. Even if you don't die, all y'all gonna wind up in jail. I don't really understand the thinking. I would have thought that they all understood best case scenario was some charges/jail time. Maybe they will let a few go. But they've been recording everything everyone's said, so anyone who opened their mouth talking about "defending" or making any remarks that shows they were part of the conspiracy, will most likely be charged.
 
These guys left to the wind should just give it up. An op that would put all it's leaders in one place on a lonely highway away from the refuge obviously never had a plan for an exfil if SHF.
 
phill4paul said:
These guys left to the wind should just give it up. An op that would put all it's leaders in one place on a lonely highway away from the refuge obviously never had a plan for an exfil if SHF.
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I ain't the guys there.. but I would be low crawling to a safer location,, and cutting my heat sig to a rabbit.

till I could find a herd to walk with.
 
pcosmar said:
I ain't the guys there.. but I would be low crawling to a safer location,, and cutting my heat sig to a rabbit.

till I could find a herd to walk with.
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Yes sir, yes sir. A thermal emergency blanket, spray can of adhesive and a bit of mother earth and making like a worm.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this yet, but thought I'd share it here.

https://www.facebook.com/Assemblywoman-Shelly-Shelton-435691143246699/?fref=nf

Assemblywoman Shelly Shelton
Nevada
District 10

Assemblywoman Shelly Shelton
Yesterday at 12:00am ·
In any given generation there are men who are willing to stand for what they believe. Most of the time they are demonized and the uninformed are made to believe they are criminals. From Moses who killed an Egyptian for abusing his people, to Jesus who died on a cross as a condemned criminal, many of those who operate outside the box and promote love and justice over the current form of government are treated as outcasts and many times murdered.


Today we were reminded that the power of evil is still alive and well as LaVoy Finicum was gunned down and murdered in Oregon. LaVoy was a man who had documented the suffering to which he and his family had been subjected, via the heavy hand of the government, through his writings and his videos.
Unlike his executioners the value of his life didn't depend on the value of his salary or his pension. The value of his life came from his sacrifice for others. When he saw similar injustices imposed on the Bundy family he went to help. When he saw injustice towards the Hammonds in Oregon the value of his life was demonstrated daily as he promoted change to stop the injustice.

His position always remained steadfast. His offense was education and action. His defense was his God given 2nd amendment right.
Recently he showed his concern for those who had previously been abused by the same government by providing video evidence that proved the Paiute artifacts in Oregon were safe and available for them to finally possess as their own - even as the Paiute, having been beaten down into submission and reliance on the government, spoke badly of him. Moses suffered the same fate as those who were afraid of freedom, preferring dependence, turned against him in the wilderness.

Lavoy Finicum was a hard working rancher and family man. He was the definition of a patriot and a Godly man of love and kindness. He represented the spirit of patriotism, justice, bravery and honesty that didn't put "getting home safe to his family" over integrity. Men like that have defended and built great civilizations for centuries. Today they are almost extinct.

For any who feel he was a criminal, like those who felt Moses and Jesus were criminals, I would implore you to investigate the peaceful work that Lavoy did in his life from the Bundy Ranch where thousands protested without a shot fired, to today in Oregon, where the shots fired came from the government at an unarmed Lavoy Finicum.

Lavoy will be missed by our family. He will either be the first of many to stand up against the corrupt government we have created or he will be the last to stand.

Time will tell.
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