SHOCKING AUDIO: Philadelphia Police violate rights of open carrier at gunpoint

[kylejack]

No worry, there was no wire to tap.

Unfortunately wiretap law is now being used in court with mixed success for in-person recordings.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Also, I've gotten pretty used to insults in debate. They don't demoralize me at all nowadays. However, if you want to hurt me you could try posting a logical sentence as to why you think I am wrong. That would hurt my ego quite a bit. Especially after I really put myself out there calling you stupid.

When you make a logical one first. What you say you were again?

 

[aGameOfThrones]

If you open carry... You're being a dick.

If you exercise your 4th amendment protections at a checkpoint... You're being a dick.

If you exercise your 5th amendment protections... You're being a dick.

Etc,etc,etc.

 

[LibForestPaul]

If you open carry... You're being a dick.

If you exercise your 4th amendment protections at a checkpoint... You're being a dick.

If you exercise your 5th amendment protections... You're being a dick.

Etc,etc,etc.

Of course, stop making a commotion and making me late, I need to pass this TSA strip search and get to my plane! Baaaah

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Of course, stop making a commotion and making me late, I need to pass this TSA strip search and get to my plane! Baaaah

Scenario 1: Oh, he was recording...he was looking for trouble.

Scenario 2: there's no recording stating his side... I believe the cop first.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

You know, the statute needs to be amended to say, every person who applies for a lincese to OC must also obtain a citizen's badge stating ocer. Since the mundanes won't read it, when they see an ocer - they'll think it's a cop and won't go fetal position crazy.

And then, a black market for citizen badges will explode on account of the state making it too difficult to do it legally LOL.

 

[kylejack]

Here's the code. Note the oral part especially.

18 Pa.C.S.A. § 5703

Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, a person is guilty of a felony of the third degree if he:

(1) intentionally intercepts, endeavors to intercept, or procures any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept any wire, electronic or oral communication;
(2) intentionally discloses or endeavors to disclose to any other person the contents of any wire, electronic or oral communication, or evidence derived therefrom, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, electronic or oral communication; or
(3) intentionally uses or endeavors to use the contents of any wire, electronic or oral communication, or evidence derived therefrom, knowing or having reason to know, that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, electronic or oral communication.
http://weblinks.westlaw.com/result/...L11.04&service=Find&spa=pac-1000&sr=TC&vr=2.0

They extended it to 2013, so it looks like he would theoretically be in violation.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Here's the code. Note the oral part especially.

18 Pa.C.S.A. § 5703

Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, a person is guilty of a felony of the third degree if he:

(1) intentionally intercepts, endeavors to intercept, or procures any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept any wire, electronic or oral communication;
(2) intentionally discloses or endeavors to disclose to any other person the contents of any wire, electronic or oral communication, or evidence derived therefrom, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, electronic or oral communication; or
(3) intentionally uses or endeavors to use the contents of any wire, electronic or oral communication, or evidence derived therefrom, knowing or having reason to know, that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, electronic or oral communication.
http://weblinks.westlaw.com/result/...L11.04&service=Find&spa=pac-1000&sr=TC&vr=2.0

They extended it to 2013, so it looks like he would theoretically be in violation.

Hmm...

 

[pcosmar]

You know, the statute needs to be amended to say, every person who applies for a lincese to OC must also obtain a citizen's badge stating ocer. Since the mundanes won't read it, when they see an ocer - they'll think it's a cop and won't go fetal position crazy.

And then, a black market for citizen badges will explode on account of the state making it too difficult to do it legally LOL.

Already available.

 

[kylejack]

Oh, I don't think that part is any problem for the authorities. Typically these laws are interpreted as the recorder is required to inform the recorded that they are being recorded, or stop recording. There's no question these laws are unjust, but I just hope he doesn't get in trouble for this. Looks like they're trying to prosecute him for disturbing the peace and reckless endangerment.

 

[krhedwards]

Wrong

...In today's day and age, there is virtually no need for a gun. for self-defense. There will virtually never be a scenario when you need it to defend yourself...

Sorry. I was shot at and run down by two men a few years ago in a nice neighborhood in Vegas. Still to this day I don't know how I got away. And while I don't carry my gun everywhere I go nowadays I know I should. Since then I have purchased a few and have learned how to shoot for defense.

 

[Lucille]

The time will come, and soon, that everyone will need to carry a gun for protection, no matter where they live in the US.

 

[demolama]

Germany was one of the most enlightened countries in the world. No one thought that in the age of science and technology that an enlightened country would turn on a segment of its populace. If it could happen in Germany it can happen anywhere. That is why for the life of me can not understand why so many Jews are so anti-gun... a lesson obviously not learned.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This goes back to option A, B, or C. Guns being common is a good thing when you live under Hitler. In today's day and age, there is virtually no need for a gun. for self-defense. There will virtually never be a scenario when you need it to defend yourself.

However, if you really want to play safe, go ahead. But you have to realize that for a logical human being, you will be viewed as a dick for carrying your gun around VISIBLY in a public place where people don't see the need for one.

Yeah, I got nothing...

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