Sharia or Islamic Banking..Better than Fractional Reserve Thieves???

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What do you think of Sharia or Islamic Banking?

Islamic banking has the same purpose as conventional banking except that it operates in accordance with the rules of Shariah, known as Fiqh al-Muamalat (Islamic rules on transactions). The basic principle of Islamic banking is the sharing of profit and loss and the prohibition of riba (usury). Amongst the common Islamic concepts used in Islamic banking are profit sharing (Mudharabah), safekeeping (Wadiah), joint venture (Musharakah), cost plus (Murabahah), and leasing (Ijarah).

In an Islamic mortgage transaction, instead of loaning the buyer money to purchase the item, a bank might buy the item itself from the seller, and re-sell it to the buyer at a profit, while allowing the buyer to pay the bank in installments. However, the fact that it is profit cannot be made explicit and therefore there are no additional penalties for late payment. In order to protect itself against default, the bank asks for strict collateral. The goods or land is registered to the name of the buyer from the start of the transaction. This arrangement is called Murabaha. Another approach is EIjara wa EIqtina, which is similar to real estate leasing. Islamic banks handle loans for vehicles in a similar way (selling the vehicle at a higher-than-market price to the debtor and then retaining ownership of the vehicle until the loan is paid).

An innovative approach applied by some banks for home loans, called Musharaka al-Mutanaqisa, allows for a floating rate in the form of rental. The bank and borrower forms a partnership entity, both providing capital at an agreed percentage to purchase the property. The partnership entity then rent out the property to the borrower and charges rent. The bank and the borrower will then share the proceed from this rent based on the current equity share of the partnership. At the same time, the borrower in the partnership entity also buys the bank's share on the property at agreed installments until the full equity is transferred to the borrower and the partnership is ended. If default occurs, both the bank and the borrower receives the proceeds from an auction based on the current equity. This method allows for floating rates according to current market rate such as the BLR (base lending rate), especially in a dual-banking system like in Malaysia.

There are several other approaches used in business deals. Islamic banks lend their money to companies by issuing floating rate interest loans. The floating rate of interest is pegged to the company's individual rate of return. Thus the bank's profit on the loan is equal to a certain percentage of the company's profits. Once the principal amount of the loan is repaid, the profit-sharing arrangement is concluded. This practice is called Musharaka. Further, Mudaraba is venture capital funding of an entrepreneur who provides labor while financing is provided by the bank so that both profit and risk are shared. Such participatory arrangements between capital and labor reflect the Islamic view that the borrower must not bear all the risk/cost of a failure, resulting in a balanced distribution of income and not allowing lender to monopolize the economy.

And finally, Islamic banking is restricted to Islamically acceptable deals, which exclude those involving alcohol, pork, gambling, etc. Thus ethical investing is the only acceptable form of investment, and moral purchasing is encouraged. In theory, Islamic banking is an example of full-reserve banking, with banks achieving a 100% reserve ratio.[11] However, in practice, this is not the case, and no examples of 100 per cent reserve banking are observed.[12]

Islamic banks have grown recently in the Muslim world but are a very small share of the global banking system. Micro-lending institutions founded by Muslims, notably Grameen Bank, use conventional lending practices and are popular in some Muslim nations, especially Bangladesh, but some do not consider them true Islamic banking. However, Muhammad Yunus, the founder of Grameen Bank and microfinance banking, and other supporters of microfinance, argue that the lack of collateral and lack of excessive interest in micro-lending is consistent with the Islamic prohibition of usury (riba).[13][
 
I am in if I can have 5 wifes, and 90 virgins when I die.

Hugo
 
No. Sharia banking isn't even real full reserve banking. It simply operates in a different matter from fractional reserve banking: instead of taking money from depositors and loaning it out, it takes money from depositors and buys products that it sells in installments.
 
No. Sharia banking isn't even real full reserve banking. It simply operates in a different matter from fractional reserve banking: instead of taking money from depositors and loaning it out, it takes money from depositors and buys products that it sells in installments.

It is supposed to be a full reserve bank, but it just doesn't happen in practice, likely because they can't compete with western banks (which are backed by central banks, thus distributing the risk) in the short to medium term. In the long run they will win out, as they are the most stable form of financial institution.

I think that a well run, Islamic style bank would kick ass in the US over the next ten years, should they remove the silly moral requirements and exclude the religious aspects.
 
an outrageous idea, gold backed currency: The Islamic Dinar 22K gold (.917) is equivalent to 4.25 grams 23mm diameter...
 
I guess they probably won't remove the alcohol and pork investments...but there are a lot of other things one could invest in. I wonder if they will let you in if you aren't a muslim..sometimes they practice usuary on non muslims..they consider that fair game. If they wanted to make money they should open it up to all. tones
 
I know! They do have that! When I lived in Turkey and went to the bazzars..they weighed the gold right there..but you could haggle with them on the price. I was a dumb 18 year old and didn't do anything worthwhile there as far as investing etc. tones
 
Here's an idea:

Why don't WE make our own bank?

A Ron Paul Bank. Revolution approved. Even non-supporters are going to be desperate to let us handle their savings.
 
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