Sen. Rand Paul endorses Judge Roy Moore for U.S. Senate

[Lamp]

And get this! Talat Pasha is the tooth fairy!

 

[phill4paul]

I got no problem with this. Should I?

 

[donnay]

Ah so if you can claim that Kony is a fairy tale I can also claim Stalin and Bachtell are fairy tales as well. Hypocrisy much?

That's because you are devoid of history then. Kony was made up by some group called the 'invisible children,' and there has been no follow up since 2012. Stalin definitely has a track record that you can research and was an atheist and a dictator.

 

[Lamp]

That's because you are devoid of history then. Kony was made up by some group called the 'invisible children,' and there has been no follow up since 2012. Stalin definitely has a track record that you can research and was an atheist and a dictator.

And yet Wikipedia still disagrees but you'd still see one on Stalin and take as factual evidence...

 

[Lamp]

And the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam and National Socialist Council of Nagaland were magical were-poodles. Oh yeah thats a good one.

 

[donnay]

And yet Wikipedia still disagrees but you'd still see one on Stalin and take as factual evidence...

I don't just reference wiki as a reliable source. You need to learn to cross-reference things when doing research.

 

[Lamp]

Alright I can accept that Joseph Kony is not well documented but that doesn't change the fact that christian terrorism is a thing just as communist terrorism is thing. However that doesn't change the fact that we still have christian socialist and communist terrorists and that not believing in the Judaeo Christian God doesn't make one "politically correct" since politically correct differs from country to country.

 

[specsaregood]

Anyways, Rand is starting to suck these days. Not just his decisions politically but on principles too. This Roy Moore guy is fucking awful... and not to mention the worst kind of fundie there is.

Au Contraire, Randal is getting better every year. Simply one awesome senator, one I'm glad is on our side.

 

[Lamp]

I also assume that the Christian terrorist Vellupilai Prabhkaran of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam was a myth. Most Sri Lankan Tamils and Sinhalese would disagree with you.

 

[Lamp]

 

[Influenza]

Is the Demoncrat going to produce better results for liberty than Moore? Go ahead make that claim, then try to back it up.

A victory for Moore will result in a much better voting record than a victory for the Demoncrat even from your point of view.

I would rather have a run-of-the-mill dem than set the precedent of having the mentally deranged, anti-liberty, christian taliban maniac that is Roy Moore serve as a senator. Some "Demoncrats" like Tulsi Gabbard are much better for the liberty movement than 98% of R's.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I would rather have a run-of-the-mill dem than set the precedent of having the mentally deranged, anti-liberty, christian taliban maniac that is Roy Moore serve as a senator. Some "Demoncrats" like Tulsi Gabbard are much better for the liberty movement than 98% of R's.

Show me that the Dem is better.

 

[surf]

Tell me the Demoncrat is better, I dare you, prove it to me and I might support him.

No matter what your opinion of Moore we don't have a better choice, when you can't get a total victory you must salami slice your way to your goals, the left has been doing it for generations it is about time we did the same.

A Libertarian Party candidate says Alabama voters need another choice for the U.S. Senate besides Democratic nominee Doug Jones and Republican Roy Moore.

Ron Bishop, an information technology professional who lives in Irondale, will officially announce his write-in candidacy at the Irondale Whistle Stop Festival today at noon.

"The two choices that we have now, they don't conform to what I think America needs to be," Bishop said.

"I'm hoping we that we can give voters out there a third option." http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/alabama_libertarian_announces.html

I'm calling bullshit on not having a better candidate. principles.... when there is a better option and you choose a worse one, i'll get what you deserve.

 

[Swordsmyth]

A Libertarian Party candidate says Alabama voters need another choice for the U.S. Senate besides Democratic nominee Doug Jones and Republican Roy Moore.

Ron Bishop, an information technology professional who lives in Irondale, will officially announce his write-in candidacy at the Irondale Whistle Stop Festival today at noon.

"The two choices that we have now, they don't conform to what I think America needs to be," Bishop said.

"I'm hoping we that we can give voters out there a third option." http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/alabama_libertarian_announces.html

I'm calling bull$#@! on not having a better candidate. principles.... when there is a better option and you choose a worse one, i'll get what you deserve.

Not living in Alabama I didn't know that, I will still need a comparison between him and Moore to show me who is better.

 

[Lamp]

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[Krugminator2]

Some "Demoncrats" like Tulsi Gabbard are much better for the liberty movement than 98% of R's.

Actually she is better than exactly zero Republicans. Peter King is better. Anyone with R next to their name is better than Tulsi Gabbard. Susan Collins will accidentally vote correctly more often than Tulsi Gabbard. She is a Bernie Sanders Communist.

 

[Influenza]

Actually she is better than exactly zero Republicans. Peter King is better. Anyone with R next to their name is better than Tulsi Gabbard. Susan Collins will accidentally vote correctly more often than Tulsi Gabbard. She is a Bernie Sanders Communist.

Foreign policy matters way more than all other issues. And Tulsi Gabbard is better than almost everyone on foreign policy. There is a middle ground, you know. Like what exists in the real world? Eventually some principles will have to be compromised... like the existence of government? I think Ron said it best in one of the 2012 debates when he said something along the lines of: Cut 2 billion in overseas spending for every 1 billion in domestic spending.

Government is incredibly wasteful, but we're not going to blow up the system tomorrow. Why not make allies with people that actually share some anti-war principles instead of writing them off as a communist because they naively overestimate the potential for government to do good?

 

[Influenza]

This country has definitely lost it's way when people have no faith in the Creator. Political Correctness has replaced the Golden Rule.

The golden rule, or rules like it, existed long before christianity or judaism, and are far more clearly stated. You still believe in fairy tales, as you just plainly admitted. Joseph Kony is a real person as well.

 

[Krugminator2]

Foreign policy matters way more than all other issues.

Foreign policy is important for a lot of reasons. But Cuba has good foreign policy. It doesn't matter at all unless you have things taken care of domestically. It is nice that Gabbard has good views on Syria, but frankly that doesn't affect my life and most people in the US nearly as much as numerous other issues. The issues I care about in order of importance.

1. Government spending
2. The drug war
3. Cutting taxes
4. Monetary policy
5. Health care policy
6. Regulations
7. Civil liberties
8. Foreign Policy

There is a middle ground, you know. Like what exists in the real world? Eventually some principles will have to be compromised... like the existence of government? I think Ron said it best in one of the 2012 debates when he said something along the lines of: Cut 2 billion in overseas spending for every 1 billion in domestic spending.

I support the existence of government. It is prerequisite to liberty. Ron didn't say it best. The amount of money spent overseas is peanuts. The United States spends 3.5% of GDP on the military- total. We spent 5% of GDP in 1950. We spent 10% in 1960. Bringing people home from overseas is probably good policy, but it does nothing to spending. Total military spending is about 17% of the total budget. Entitlement spending is two-thirds of the budget.

 

[donnay]

The golden rule, or rules like it, existed long before christianity or judaism, and are far more clearly stated. You still believe in fairy tales, as you just plainly admitted. Joseph Kony is a real person as well.

As a Christian the 'Golden Rule' stems from the Creator; not a religion.

Kony may very well be a real person, but the whole Kony agenda was a fraud.

Social Media Scam Alert: Top Ten Ways to Tell Kony is Phony. The Hidden Agenda is to Invade Africa
https://www.globalresearch.ca/socia...y-the-hidden-agenda-is-to-invade-africa/29777

Kony 2012
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/kony-2012

Exposed: Kony 2012 Scam Is a Soros/NGO Front
https://www.prisonplanet.com/exposed-kony-2012-scam-is-a-sorosngo-front.html