Sen. DeMint: 'I really don't want Ron Paul to drop out'

[wsc321]

WSC,

Although I agree with you, it's time for some of these big league players to step up.

I mean, you don't have to agree with everything, but the overall message of liberty and freedom.

I would have no problem with Demint saying that he doesn't full agree with Paul's foreign policy, but what good is our foreign policy if we don't have freedom and liberty here, at home? Something to that extent.

As far as I am concerned, if you don't step up, you are just as bad as the rest.

I think we're on the same page in that I'm not interested in anyone who won't defend us against something like the NDAA, but according to an earlier post/quote, DeMint is at least leaning in this very direction. Emphasis mine:

"Ron Paul is right on the fact that we’ve got an out of control and unaccountable Federal Reserve that is eventually going to create a major crisis,” said DeMint. "He’s also right in the importance of individual liberty and the whole constitutional limited government. And more of our candidates need to incorporate that."

 

[wsc321]

The Daily Paul says he did.
http://www.dailypaul.com/198522/sen...-indefinite-detention-of-us-citizens-no-trial

This site says he didn't.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2011-230

Thanks - that explains some of the confusion - I'll try to contact someone at the Daily Paul and get the record corrected.

 

[nasaal]

If he is so worried about him dropping out, then he should endorse him to give him a boost. But unfortunately endorsing Paul is political suicide for the likes of governors and senators at this point.

 

[tsetsefly]

Tweeted:
@JimDeMint I don't know a single Ron Paul supporter that will vote for anyone but Paul. If Paul isn't the nominee, I expect Obama wins.

If that is really his account, he is right about that! I will not vote for any of the gop candidate. Wont vote for Obama but definitely not voting for any republican other than Paul.

 

[Ohio4Paul]

I will not vote for any of the gop candidate. Wont vote for Obama but definitely not voting for any republican other than Paul.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. Most of the people I know feel the same way. Ron Paul or no one!

 

[Pisces]

I've been confused about Demint's position on NDAA as well. He did vote against final passage of the bill. I wasn't sure if it was because of indefinite detention provisions or some other reason so I did some research to see if I could find any statements from him. I found this youtube where he talks about his vote (sorry it's Beck but its all I could find.) His statements start at 1:49.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I won't bash DeMint, but I will say that I will never vote for someone who just wakes up one day and starts to spout the ideas of liberty JUST TO PANDER FOR MY VOTE. Either said candidate has "gotten it" all along about the importance of individual freedom and adherence to Constitutional principles, or they don't get it at all. In this 2012 election cycle, for me, it's No One But Paul because he's the only one who has been saying these things.

 

[Aratus]

Jim DeMint could leap on Mitt Romney's rolling bandwagon tomorrow
and South Carolina could be a game, set and match point for Mitt.
I think he wants a threeway split and does not want to agree with
the sitting governor on anything at all at this point if he can help it.
If Lindsey Graham backs Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich as Jim DeMint is
aloof but very kind to us, it delays the inevitable for Gentleman Mitt.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Thanks - that explains some of the confusion - I'll try to contact someone at the Daily Paul and get the record corrected.

He voted for initial passage in the Senate.

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

Ease up on DeMint. He said months ago he wouldn't endorse anyone before the SC primary, and as far as I know, he has kept his word on that.

This is as good as we are going to get from him, and we should show him some love for it.

Yeah, a guy saying he loves Ron Paul's ideas and everything he's saying, we just need a different face for them. What an *awesome* compliment

 

[speciallyblend]

demint cannot be that clueless ,so i have to assume he is gop scumbag establishment trying to put the memo out that ron paul will be dropping out in which case jim demint is nothing more then a LIAR. There is a reason he is saying this crap. He is not stupid or clueless and i will never trust this guy. Jim Demint marginalizing Ron Paul sounds like corrupt gop establishment to me. Jim Demint has the corrupt gop virus that has just been named "joescarboroughisfullofcrap"

 

[bobbyw24]

No one but Paul

 

[georgiaboy]

Jim DeMint's stuff is helping pave the way for broader support for Ron Paul and his ideas across the GOP. This is a great thing. Thanks for sticking your neck out as far as you feel you can in trying to move the needle of the conversation within the GOP toward small gov't.

That said, can we trust any other candidate than Ron Paul at this point to actually carry out any of those things? Heck, even Rick Perry has given support to Ron's Federal Reserve positions, but would any Ron Paul supporter give Perry their vote? Doubtful at this point. Why not?

The piece DeMint is missing is the trust issue. If Mitt Romney started spouting support up and down the issues list for every one of Ron's views, I would still not vote for Mitt Romney. Why? I don't trust him. I don't trust any of these politicians who say one thing but then vote a different way. They get into office and just blend in with the status quo and nothing changes, gov't just gets bigger and bigger.

Jim, you must understand that the GOP is its own worst enemy when it comes to trying to figure out a way to keep the Ron Paul supporters 'in the fold'. You're not hearing us. It's not just lip service and issue support and a sentence or two in the platform or a speech at a convention we're looking for, and we won't support anyone who has in the past given lip service but proven by their actions to be untrustworthy liars. Yep, saying you're gonna support a philosophy or position and then not doing so is a lie. A flat out lie.

And guess what, we've actually tried that before, supported whoever the GOP threw up there, in hopes that the overall GOP philosophy was enough to move the needle in small gov't direction. Nope, it's been proven by the GOP itself that that does not work. So we have to look at each candidate to see if their actions match their words, and if their words are the right ones.

We are looking for (1) a person who supports the same small government, constitutional philosophies and policies that we do, who can be (2) trusted, based on prior record, to implement those policies.

If you can find anyone else out there like that besides Ron Paul who is running for president, I'll be pleased as punch to pull the lever for them.

Thanks for your efforts to at least say some good things about Ron Paul. I just wish you could go a few steps further, and sooner rather than later.

 

[archangel689]

Judas.

 

[Aratus]

Yeah, a guy saying he loves Ron Paul's ideas and everything he's saying, we just need a different face for them. What an *awesome* compliment

he wants a brokered convention and/or he wants mitt romney to be his butler and manservant.
he's willing to let us write the party platform happily. he has to be weighing all the percentages.

 

[JoshS]

DeMint's a bitch.

Yeah let's take the good things about RP and trust ROMNEY to come through on them..? What a joke. How about we take the real thing and not the big-government, lying liberal-conservative. How's that sound Jim?

 

[Aratus]

is jim demint agreeing with mitch mcconnell and both of them have the notion that rand paul could be part of this year's gop ticket?

 

[Aratus]

he wants a brokered convention.

 

[archangel689]

The judge was talking about it too... there is something going on behind the scenes here. Like, they put rand on their ticket to placate us. That's not nearly enough for me though. they'd have to allow ron to appoint the entire cabinet, including the fed chairman and the treasury for me to even consider it. The fed chairman has as much, if not more power than the president himself, anyway. He holds the purse strings and you can control spending through him.

I don't think it will work, rand paul joining romney would considered "selling out" by the majority of ron pauls base, I think. In exchange for a romney president, they'd basically have to sell everything in the house for me to hold my nose and pull the lever.

I won't accept a turd sandwich, even if it has a tomato on it and I dont think anyone else here will either. We would seriously be compromising our values.

 

[Eric21ND]

Tweeted:

Tweet him the awesome foreign policy video.

You like Ron Paul, except on foreign policy.

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