Secret £14million Bible in which 'Jesus predicts coming of Prophet Muhammad' unearthed in

[Muwahid]

I assume that 1500 is an approximation. Muhammad was born about 1500 years ago. Jesus hasn't walked the earth for nearly 2000. Given the available evidence, isn't it far more likely the article in question was authored by a contemporary of Muhammad's?

Erm no, it's less likely. The earliest manuscripts of Christianity date to a few hundreds years AD, so the gospel of barnabas fits more in that timeline. The earliest written manuscripts existing of Islamic material is nearing 700AD, so even knock off 100 years it's still unlikely.

Even less likely is that the first generation of Muslims would create the gospel of Barnabas, if it was later generations who wanted to proselytize to christians maybe but this isn't the case, this was a proper publication, it was gold inlaid high quality, someone spent a lot of time on it.

Plus Christians of the Arabian peninsula as well as Jews told of a new prophet coming, some accepted Muhammad others were angry because he was an Arab and not an Israelite.. so this is totally consistent with what we know historically of the time period.

And lastly if the article is correct in quoting, especially about the Messiah, it's actually not 100 percent correct according to Muslim tradition. Jesus is the Messiah for Muslims not Muhammad (ص) so if it were Muslims why would they make a grave error like that? This is just supporting evidence that the Abrahamic religions pointed towards a new prophet, this is stuff we already knew but when the Church took control of the old and new testaments they would have blacked out things they didn't like, especially references to new prophets which would be inconsistent being that Jesus is perceived as God in Pauline christianity.

 

[Voluntary Man]

....The earliest written manuscripts existing of Islamic material is nearing 700AD....

Careful, according to Harryhaller that means Muhammad never existed.

Not my opinion, btw.

 

[Muwahid]

Fortunately we have his grave site.. a little more telling than old scripture.

 

[Voluntary Man]

Fortunately we have his grave site.. a little more telling than old scripture.

I suspect Harry won't be happy with less than Jesus' bones, so you may have a better time with him.

 

[specsaregood]

Fortunately we have his grave site.. a little more telling than old scripture.

I suspect Harry won't be happy with less than Jesus' bones, so you may have a better time with him.

There is a great fiction book that dealt with the subject of finding a body that might be Jesus.
http://www.amazon.com/Body-Richard-Sapir/dp/0523422490
i guess its out of print now, but if you find a copy I highly recommend it, very well done. the movie they made based on it...not so great.

 

[Voluntary Man]

There is a great fiction book that dealt with the subject of finding a body that might be Jesus.
http://www.amazon.com/Body-Richard-Sapir/dp/0523422490
i guess its out of print now, but if you find a copy I highly recommend it, very well done. the movie they made based on it...not so great.

The religious significance of such a discovery aside, I'm convinced there are many, so conditioned in their special skepticism, who would continue to dispute the authenticity of the bones, out of habit -- even if such a find could be verified.

Of course, I'm certain none will ever be found (not that it won't/hasn't be/en claimed), but not for the same reason as those devotees of non-historicity.

However, I'm not as obsessed with this topic as some who profess skepticism. So, it's actually a non-issue, to me.

 

[specsaregood]

The religious significance of such a discovery aside, I'm convinced there are many, so conditioned in their special skepticism, who would continue to dispute the authenticity of the bones, out of habit -- even if such a find could be verified.
Of course, I'm certain none will ever be found (not that it won't/hasn't be/en claimed), but not for the same reason as those devotees of non-historicity.
However, I'm not as obsessed with this topic as some who profess skepticism. So, it's actually a non-issue, to me.

I never even thought about the topic until I read that book. It does a great job (I think) of tackling it from all sides (religious people, religious institution, scientists, goverments) all of them have a position to protect. Made me think how really significant it would be. Anyways if you see the book somewhere give it a read. Its full of geeky particulars and politics.

 

[Voluntary Man]

I never even thought about the topic until I read that book. It does a great job (I think) of tackling it from all sides (religious people, religious institution, scientists, goverments) all of them have a position to protect. Made me think how really significant it would be. Anyways if you see the book somewhere give it a read. Its full of geeky particulars and politics.

I'll look it up. Thanks.

 

[Harryhaller]

No use wondering if religion is just made up nonsense. Move over L Ron Hubbard. I have an urge to write.

 

[Voluntary Man]

No use wondering if religion is just made up nonsense. Move over L Ron Hubbard. I have an urge to write.

"Though atheism was at the core of the cult, it defined itself as more than a mere rejection of gods: in the manner of conventional religion, it encouraged acts of congregational worship. The cult fostered frequent devotional displays to the ideal of Reason."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason