SCOTUS legalizes Gay Marriage - 10th Amendment Obliterated

ZENemy said:
Who will the politicians export and exploit now?


I'm guessing S&M folks will rally next, demand marriage with handcuffs be legal NOW!
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I don't know maybe incest? I mean those biblical prohibitions are so archaic. It's the 21st century. We shouldn't have to live under those barbaric ordinances. If brother and sister love each other I don't see the problem. Clearly, biology isn't important. Plus, with amazing advances in technology we can determine genetic defects and just abort the baby if it comes out wonky.

You have the "right" to assert your identity, according to SCOTUS.

Also, we can lower the age of marriage with parents consent and stop demonizing these poor pedophiles. Mohammed married a 9 year old. It's anti-Islamic to enforce such a high marriage age of 16.

So I see nothing wrong with a 10 year old boy having sex with a 60 year old man as long as it's about LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE.

Fuck, it. I'm seriously tired of trying to draw lines around this today. Need to just log off.
 
randomname said:
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), an expected 2016 presidential candidate, slammed the Supreme Court on Friday for its ruling in favor of same-sex marriage and called for a constitutional amendment to reverse the decision.

"I believe this Supreme Court decision is a grave mistake. Five unelected judges have taken it upon themselves to redefine the institution of marriage, an institution that the author of this decision acknowledges 'has been with us for millennia,'" Walker said.

Walker is one of many conservative White House hopefuls who criticized the Supreme Court. However, he took his case further than several of his potential GOP foes by calling for a constitutional amendment to reverse the decision and put control back in the hands of states.

"As a result of this decision, the only alternative left for the American people is to support an amendment to the US Constitution to reaffirm the ability of the states to continue to define marriage," he said.

The governor also appeared to renew his call for so-called "religious freedom" protections for those who oppose same-sex weddings. The controversy over "religious freedom" laws peaked earlier this year when states like Arkansas and Indiana backed down in the face of heated opposition from gay-rights activists and the business community.

"I call on the president and all governors to join me in reassuring millions of Americans that the government will not force them to participate in activities that violate their deeply held religious beliefs. No one wants to live in a country where the government coerces people to act in opposition to their conscience," Walker said. "We will continue to fight for the freedoms of all American."
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A constitutional amendment would require two thirds of the states to approve it. Don't think that will happen.

The governor also appeared to renew his call for so-called "religious freedom" protections for those who oppose same-sex weddings. The controversy over "religious freedom" laws peaked earlier this year when states like Arkansas and Indiana backed down in the face of heated opposition from gay-rights activists and the business community.
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Is it "religious freedom" to say who can and cannot be married if they are not a member of your Church (or even if they are)? Or does freedom only apply to certain people? If your religion says gays should not marry then you don't have to get married to a gay person.
 
Robert's dissent already mentioned polygamy, stating that the exact arguments the 'majority' are using to justify the decision could be interchangeable with those proponents of polyamorous/polygamous legality...

Not that I give 2 shits about what Chief Judas Roberts has to say on the matter...

Interesting times we live in, folks.... and interesting days ahead.
 
CaptUSA said:
On the scale of things the Court has done wrong recently, this one ranks pretty low to me.

Marriage shouldn't even be an issue for any government: Federal, State, or local.
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May sentiment exactly. If this brings about the states to end their recognition of every type of marriage, then its a good thing. I am sure people said the same thing when SC ended the ban on interracial marriages. It should be non of the states business who I want to marry, how many people and for what reason. If its not a crime, I should be able to marry him/her and as many of them willing to marry me back.
 
This is just getting started.

Next up the gays will demand that pedophilia be legalized.

Then hate speech laws written to protect them from any criticism.
 
juleswin said:
May sentiment exactly. If this brings about the states to end their recognition of every type of marriage, then its a good thing. I am sure people said the same thing when SC ended the ban on interracial marriages. It should be non of the states business who I want to marry, how many people and for what reason. If its not a crime, I should be able to marry him/her and as many of them willing to marry me back.
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Whatever, people who believe this. Even Rand is against it.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Rand_Paul_Civil_Rights.htm

Redefining marriage leads to economic and moral problems

Earlier today, for example, the senator appeared on Glenn Beck's show to discuss the Supreme Court's ruling striking down the Defense of Marriage Act. The host suggested the ruling could lead to polygamy: "If you change one variable--man and a woman to man and man--you can logically change another variable--one man, three women."
For Paul, this seemed perfectly sensible. In fact, the senator went even further than Beck: "If we have no laws on this people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans? I'm kind of with you, I see the thousands-of-year tradition of the nucleus of the family unit. I also see that economically, if you just look without any kind of moral periscope and you say, what is it that is the leading cause of poverty in our country? It's having kids without marriage. The stability of the marriage unit is enormous and we should not just say oh we're punting on it, marriage can be anything."
Source: Rachel Maddow blog on U.S. Supreme Court rulings on DOMA , Jun 26, 2013

No national law on same-sex marriage; leave it to states

Paul opposes a national law banning same-sex marriage. Paul's view is that same-same marriage should be dealt with at the state level. Paul said he thinks his party and the nation will eventually accept that different parts of the country have different views on certain issues. "My position on this is the same as Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, George Washington, John Adams," he said. "Marriage is a state issue."
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My guess is thought that his political response will be to mention that it should be state's rights and completely omit any notion that it's "the nucleus", etc.

Just guessing on past behavior though. He might surprise and mention that this is going to cause more problems like he said before, or disappoint by celebrating with them.
 
Carlybee said:
Another reason the federal government should have been forced out of the marriage business long ago.

That being said..I really don't care who marries who. I just dislike the government having the power to decide such a personal matter.
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Winner, winner chicken dinner. ^^^^^^^^
 
DFF said:
This is just getting started.

Next up the gays will demand that pedophilia be legalized.

Then hate speech laws written to protect them from any criticism.
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All we need to do is lower age of consent. What else? I'm mean we're evolving, man! Kids are smart these days. They learn about sex at a younger age. It's only natural.
 
wizardwatson said:
Whatever, people who believe this. Even Rand is against it.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Rand_Paul_Civil_Rights.htm



My guess is thought that his political response will be to mention that it should be state's rights and completely omit any notion that it's "the nucleus", etc.

Just guessing on past behavior though. He might surprise and mention that this is going to cause more problems like he said before, or disappoint by celebrating with them.
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For the record, I don't believe in state right when it affects the freedom of the individual. States to me are just mini federal govts. but I sometimes support state rights when it comes to inconsequential/ceremonial things like to fly or not to fly flags on state houses but that's it.

Also, Rand Paul doesn't have it right all the time and this is one area where we disagree. Why the fuck is polygamy illegal in the US? this stuff has been with humanity since recorded history and all of a sudden the US makes it illegal. And for some reason everybody is cool with it cos polygamy is not for them.
 
wizardwatson said:
All we need to do is lower age of consent. What else? I'm mean we're evolving, man! Kids are smart these days. They learn about sex at a younger age. It's only natural.
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Traditional marriage throughout history has always been at a much younger age.
 
juleswin said:
For the record, I don't believe in state right when it affects the freedom of the individual. States to me are just mini federal govts. but I sometimes support state rights when it comes to inconsequential/ceremonial things like to fly or not to fly flags on state houses but that's it.

Also, Rand Paul doesn't have it right all the time and this is one area where we disagree. Why the fuck is polygamy illegal in the US? this stuff has been with humanity since recorded history and all of a sudden the US makes it illegal. And for some reason everybody is cool with it cos polygamy is not for them.
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Polygamous marriage has also been common throughout history.
 
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