Scientific journal "Nature" finds nothing noteworthy in CRU leak

[Meatwasp]

This scientist was murdered with an aids virus tainted blood transfusion. She dared to go against the globel warming eco freaks in the 90's
http:llwww.vire.org/articles/59.html
I hope this works darn it I have trouble posting these things Ha

 

[sofia]

Have to agree with Nature on this one. There's no smoking gun in those emails. If they prove anything, it's that those scientists are convinced that we must do something about global warming.

did u even read the e-mails????

The phony scientists talk about "the travesty" of temp declines over past 7 years......and how to "use tricks of adding real temps back in order to "hide the decline"...

cant be any clearer than that

 

[LibForestPaul]

We can be 100 per cent sure the world is getting warmer

Forget about the temperature records compiled by researchers such as those whose emails were hacked. Next spring, go out into your garden or the nearby countryside and note when the leaves unfold, when flowers bloom, when migrating birds arrive and so on. Compare your findings with historical records, where available, and you'll probably find spring is coming days, even weeks earlier than a few decades ago.

- New Scientist

I actually subscribed to them for awhile. Nice scientific theory and empirical evidence Einsteins.


My ass is sweating more this August, must be global warming. Wheres a fauxenviroalarmist to save my sweaty ass.

 

[Meatwasp]

This scientist was murdered with an aids virus tainted blood transfusion. She dared to go against the globel warming eco freaks in the 90's
http://www.vlrc.org/articles/59.html
I hope this works darn it I have trouble posting these things Ha

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[Chirac's Poodle]

Is this the same "Nature", as in "Mike's Nature trick"? If so, they have a vested interest in denying any impropriety, lest their lofty journal status be badly damaged. I tend to ignore the pleas from those caught with their hands in the cookie jar already.

Bingo.

 

[devil21]

We can be 100 per cent sure the world is getting warmer

Forget about the temperature records compiled by researchers such as those whose emails were hacked. Next spring, go out into your garden or the nearby countryside and note when the leaves unfold, when flowers bloom, when migrating birds arrive and so on. Compare your findings with historical records, where available, and you'll probably find spring is coming days, even weeks earlier than a few decades ago.

I haven't brainstormed on this very long so please correct me if Im wrong. Don't we purposely manipulate our calendars and clocks year after year to try to keep some semblance of a "routine". How does leap years and adding seconds (done earlier this year), as well as daylight savings time to the clocks affect subjective "observations" like in the quote? If we allowed time to run it's course naturally, all kinds of historical "observations" would be worthless. January would be in the middle of summer eventually! Everything in our lives is manipulated, including our very sense of what "time" and "season" are.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I haven't brainstormed on this very long so please correct me if Im wrong. Don't we purposely manipulate our calendars and clocks year after year to try to keep some semblance of a "routine". How does leap years and adding seconds (done earlier this year), as well as daylight savings time to the clocks affect subjective "observations" like in the quote? If we allowed time to run it's course naturally, all kinds of historical "observations" would be worthless. January would be in the middle of summer eventually! Everything in our lives is manipulated, including our very sense of what "time" and "season" are.

Interesting thoughts... PROOF! spring coming earlier, early snow...

-t

 

[misterx]

did u even read the e-mails????

The phony scientists talk about "the travesty" of temp declines over past 7 years......and how to "use tricks of adding real temps back in order to "hide the decline"...

cant be any clearer than that

Yes, I read them. The temp declines over the past 7 years are a travesty because they are statistically insignificant, but people with an unscientific mind will use them to keep everyone's heads buried in the sand.

 

[tremendoustie]

Yes, I read them. The temp declines over the past 7 years are a travesty because they are statistically insignificant, but people with an unscientific mind will use them to keep everyone's heads buried in the sand.

Good thing these propagandists scientists will hide the declines for us, then. I wouldn't want our little brains to get the wrong idea. It's the same reason I love how they generated those demonstrably fake hockey sticks, then deleted the original records. I mean, we morons could be confused by actual data. They need to enhance it for us so we get their message the scientific message.

I'm hoping the next ones will include predictions of locust plagues if we don't give all our money to Al Gore right away. I mean, it won't be accurate, or based on any real data or proven model, but at least it will keep those unscientific skeptics quiet. You know, the ones who skew and misrepresent data to accomplish their goals.

Those guys.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

 

[idirtify]

Yes, I read them. The temp declines over the past 7 years are a travesty because they are statistically insignificant, but people with an unscientific mind will use them to keep everyone's heads buried in the sand.

Misterx,

In your opinion, at what point will the decline become significant? I’m no climatologist, so I am seriously asking. Eight years? Nine years? Ten years? Twenty? 100? What is the magic number?

 

[idirtify]

Aren’t there sufficient online tools which would enable us to get annual world-temp averages for ourselves? If so, fuck both the “experts” and authorities. Let’s get the numbers! How complex could the data/evidence be for “amateurs” to obtain/confirm? Let’s do it right here.

 

[LibForestPaul]

if the temperature of Tallahese has decreased over the last 5 years, but Detroit and NY have increased?

not quite easy to verify and check. Define world-temperature? Average vs Mean?

This is why they were trying to silence their critics. Because other experts can expose their shenanigans. People without such expertise can not, at least not without quite a bit of work.(or breaking in and "stealing' their emails) lol

 

[paulitics]

I’ve always respected the writers over at New Scientist and those are some pretty tough arguments against anti-warmers. Of course there are a lot of writers and if anyone has any evidence of any funny business from over there, post it here.

Why? these writers could be anybody. Just because it is written with sophicticated language does not make it scientific, intelligent, or truth based.

Here is one such New Scientist writer, who is a CFR member with a clear political agenda which trumps science. Judging by how this article was written, and anonymous at that, it was probably written by someone like this.

http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/michael_a_levi.html

 

[paulitics]

Any bets on who wrote those 2 articles?

I don't know, probably someone like this guy.
http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/michael_a_levi.html

 

[acptulsa]

if the temperature of Tallahese has decreased over the last 5 years, but Detroit and NY have increased?

not quite easy to verify and check. Define world-temperature? Average vs Mean?

This is why they were trying to silence their critics. Because other experts can expose their shenanigans. People without such expertise can not, at least not without quite a bit of work.(or breaking in and "stealing' their emails) lol

Well, here's the long and the short of it. These people are screaming and making their dire warnings, but have no more of a clue what's really happening and/or is going to happen than the scientists fifty years ago who were talking about how good red meat is for you, and how it would never do you any harm (while decrying the Oriental diet as lacking in albumens).

'We're just guessing, but don't let that stop you from being very, very afraid!!'

 

[devil21]

Well, here's the long and the short of it. These people are screaming and making their dire warnings, but have no more of a clue what's really happening and/or is going to happen than the scientists fifty years ago who were talking about how good red meat is for you, and how it would never do you any harm (while decrying the Oriental diet as lacking in albumens).

'We're just guessing, but don't let that stop you from being very, very afraid!!'

Seems like everything is based on fear these days. We're guilty of it too of course mainly in our economic views. This is why all the Hope and Change nonsense actually worked. Eventhough it has no basis in reality, people love to hear the positive spin. We're really just a feeble, timid species afraid of everything and our masters use it to their advantage constantly to get whatever they want.

 

[idirtify]

CNN is giving HUGE coverage of Climategate today, and I can’t see where the anchors are giving it a biased account overall. Many of their guests are making CRU look VERY bad. What about the other news networks? Anybody watching them?

 

[Bman]

The article gave me a good laugh.

The whole walk out in spring and see when the trees get leaves and flowers bloom, then compare that to historical records.

I guess I should also compare the snow that arrived in the mid-atlantic region last weekend to historical records also.

 

[idirtify]

Why? these writers could be anybody. Just because it is written with sophicticated language does not make it scientific, intelligent, or truth based.

Here is one such New Scientist writer, who is a CFR member with a clear political agenda which trumps science. Judging by how this article was written, and anonymous at that, it was probably written by someone like this.

http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/michael_a_levi.html

good points.