Scientific American Calls For World Government

[John F Kennedy III]

The only way that companies like SpaceX plan on making profit is through contracts by the government. In a few years, SpaceX is planning to get a multi-billion dollar contract with NASA to carry our astronauts to the ISS.

What would your business plan be if you were them? If they are being honest about their costs I don't see them having many private customers at this stage in the game.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Well there are likely at the most 10 other civilizations out there (Drake eqn.), so that's gonna be a painstaking task.

10? Can you clarify? The universe is rather large.

 

[jmdrake]

great example of an Alex Jones spin. They said "global governance and cooperation is necessary IF YOU WANT TO STAGE OFF CLIMATE CATASTROPHE"

Don't do anything if you don't want to though.

Give me a break! So you would have us believe that the author who wrote the Scientific American article thinks that allowing climate catastrophe is a viable option? There is spin here for sure. From YOU!

 

[jmdrake]

By the way. The globalists have been openly pushing the "We need one world government to fight off global warming" argument at least since 1989. That's when this PBS docudrama "After the warming" was first aired.

[video=google;6514270139930450081]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6514270139930450081[/video]

Notice the logo for the new world government in the docudrama.

And some people have the nerve to call the conspiracy theorists the crazy ones.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

By the way. The globalists have been openly pushing the "We need one world government to fight off global warming" argument at least since 1989. That's when this PBS docudrama "After the warming" was first aired.

[video=google;6514270139930450081]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6514270139930450081[/video]

Notice the logo for the new world government in the docudrama.

And some people have the nerve to call the conspiracy theorists the crazy ones.

I owe you a +rep for this

 

[John F Kennedy III]

The conspiracy theorists are the people that don't think there's a conspiracy.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Really? Because that would involve altering your brain, not just scanning it.

Mind control is not the same thing as brain imaging, analogous to a medical x-ray is not the same thing as radiation therapy.

They already have the brain implants prepared for their mind control plot. The future is here, and we must resist this scientific dictatorship until the bitter end. Many of these technologies have great potential to help people, but they will not be used that way until the state is destroyed.

Besides, I thought that's what fluoride was for?

That was to dumb everyone down. You notice how effective it has been?

 

[BrittanySligar]

Many renowned scientists advocate for globalization, as they see it as an inevitability with the advancement of technology. Our role is in convincing people that we can have a global society without a global government.

 

[onlyrp]

Give me a break! So you would have us believe that the author who wrote the Scientific American article thinks that allowing climate catastrophe is a viable option? There is spin here for sure. From YOU!

Doesn't matter what HE thinks is a viable option.

 

[jmdrake]

Doesn't matter what HE thinks is a viable option.

For once you are right. It doesn't matter because it is clearly a call for global government regardless of whether or not he really believes it is necessary to stop a climate catastrophe.

 

[The Free Hornet]

This is false.


GREED is addiction to MORE. Nothing suffices; no amount is enough. Think, MIDAS. For as long as there has been recognition of SEVEN DEADLY SINS, Greed has been on the list. There is no such thing as Greed Lite.

I made it very clear I was using "greed" in the sense as understood by Ayn Rand (i.e., not avarice but greed). Here is an OK explanation:

Is greed good? Or is greed the root of all evil? It depends on what you mean by greed. Get involved in political discussions outside your own echo chamber and you’ll find quite a few definitions of greed batted about, oftentimes without signal that the meaning has changed. Here are a few:

1 A strong desire for more wealth/material goods.
2 A desire for great wealth.
3 A desire for additional wealth that trumps moral considerations.
4 A desire for more wealth than one has rightfully earned.
5 A desire for more wealth than others.
6 A desire to hoard/use one’s wealth for purely selfish purposes.

These definitions are not equivalent!

Ayn Rand celebrated greed as per Definitions 1 and 2 as heroic, while condemning greed as per definitions 3 and 4. (Many of Ayn Rand’s villains were rich.)

http://www.holisticpolitics.org/Greed/WhatIsGreed.php

In the 7-deadly sins context, greed and avarice are the same. In Ayn Rand's context, they are different. I defined my context clearly and you elected to omit this. Also, the notion of sin - espcially original sin - is a pre-emption on the rights of people. The seven deadly sins are about control which might be seen as contrary to some of the 10 Commandments:

1 luxuria (lechery/lust)
2 gula (gluttony)
3 avaritia (avarice/greed)
4 acedia (acedia/discouragement/sloth)
5 ira (wrath)
6 invidia (envy)
7 superbia (pride)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

Many of the Ten Commandments relate to do-no-harm and golden-rule type stuff:

I do accept Biblical principles in that those of the (Protestant) Ten Commandments which apply to relations between people...

6. Thou shalt not kill
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour

...are proscriptions against violence, theft and fraud. They are crimes against life, liberty and property and should either be punished or recompensed. These things are crimes, not because the Bible tells me so, but because they violate individual sovereignty. Had the Bible never been written they would still be crimes.

The others which are not specifically Godward...

5. Honour thy father and thy mother
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery
8. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

...encourage filial piety and marital fidelity and discourage envy. This is simply a good way to live and conducive to a harmonious life. These virtues would be applauded both in ancient Greece and the Han Empire. Violating them brings their own punishment in the form of misery and discord. Again, had the Bible never been written this would still be true. In that respect they are spiritual failings, but not crimes -- though it could be argued adultery has to do with fraud if it involves deception or the violation of a mutual voluntary agreement.

The remainder...

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy

...are matters of faithfulness, idolatry, blasphemy and ritual observance. These are matters of one's understanding of -- and relation to -- deity. Consequently they concern the individual and deity and are nobody else's business, especially not the business of someone who has a different opinion of what they comprise.

In my mind the Ten Commandments are very libertarian. This does not surprise me since their literary context is the reorganization of a society that had escaped tyranny and sought to avoid its reimposition.


http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2008/tle485-20080921-05.html

The 7-deadly sins came from authoritarians that had control and lost the memory of slavery.

 

[Phil]

10? Can you clarify? The universe is rather large.

 

[jmdrake]

I owe you a +rep for this

And +rep to you for bringing the Scientific American article to my attention! That docudrama "After the warming" first convinced me that man made global warming was real. As someone who's against one world government I thought "I need to fight against global warming in order to prevent the need for global government". Then I learned about problem reaction solution from Alex Jones.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

And +rep to you for bringing the Scientific American article to my attention! That docudrama "After the warming" first convinced me that man made global warming was real. As someone who's against one world government I thought "I need to fight against global warming in order to prevent the need for global government". Then I learned about problem reaction solution from Alex Jones.

You're welcome and yeah most of us start off on the wrong path, with good intentions of course. That is a result of the brainwashing we are subjected to from the moment of our birth. I love Alex Jones for what he has done to help us. Without AJ I don't believe we would stand a chance. If he had decided to do something else with his life, most of us would still be asleep.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

You're welcome and yeah most of us start off on the wrong path, with good intentions of course. That is a result of the brainwashing we are subjected to from the moment of our birth. I love Alex Jones for what he has done to help us. Without AJ I don't believe we would stand a chance. If he had decided to do something else with his life, most of us would still be asleep.

AJ's a hero just like Ron Paul is. I especially enjoy how he and his news operation cheeses off so many people here too

 

[bolil]

If only we could regulate human moral imperfection out of existence. That would be completely moral and ethical to create our own idea of a morally perfect human and, well, eliminate those who don't meet our standards. It's for the good of society.

Im glad we are stuck on earth, no reason to spread the human disease to other planets. How about, instead of a governmental agency, interplanetary spread was initiated and realized by voluntary actors?

 

[John F Kennedy III]

AJ's a hero just like Ron Paul is. I especially enjoy how he and his news operation cheeses off so many people here too

Me too. I find their babble highly amusing.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

How about, instead of a governmental agency, interplanetary spread was initiated and realized by voluntary actors?

I would love to be part of this.

 

[Phil]

Im glad we are stuck on earth, no reason to spread the human disease to other planets. How about, instead of a governmental agency, interplanetary spread was initiated and realized by voluntary actors?

I would volunteer in a heartbeat. Right now, spaceflight is too expensive. The only way that SpaceX is hoping to turn a profit or even break even is to get a multi-billion dollar contract from NASA.

 

[WilliamC]

Electromagnetic rail guns with solid rocket assist for launching payload and aircraft lifted liquid fueled jets for humans reaching low earth orbit would be much more cost effective than what we have now.

Re-entry via one-way disposable capsules.

Too much energy is being wasted lifting propellent and life support/safety equipment with something like a Space Shuttle.

It's a lot of hard work, but it's not rocket science.

Well, actually, it is rocket science but rocket science isn't really that hard if you're not wasting trillions of dollars on self-destructive wars.