Science: Point for Paul During Debate

[PastaRocket848]

Sorry I missed this, nickel reacts with hydrogen to produce copper and the supposedly causes more heat to be produced than the reaction requires. I'm not sure how they square this with conservation of energy, but it seems to be working from everything I've read.

News source: http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2012/01/06/opinion/doc4f067013eebca165410177.txt

Scientific source: http://www.fysik.org/WebSite/fragelada/resurser/Rossi-Focardi_paper.pdf

They don't, and therein lies the problem. It's a measurement anomaly. Either that or everything we know about the universe is wrong. My money is on the former.

 

[wowrevolution]

Voltage Levels & Brownian Motion.
Dr. Eric Lerner also has a similar apparatus called Focus Fusion and he has inherited the Presidency of Lawrenceville Plasma Physics

http://focusfusion.org/

Advocates of "Aneutronic" Fusion seem to be making pretty significant advances.

 

[wowrevolution]

They don't, and therein lies the problem. It's a measurement anomaly. Either that or everything we know about the universe is wrong. My money is on the former.

Nah, everything we know about the Universe is just wrong.... well... not "we" more like "they"

 

[wowrevolution]

The Europeans are quickly developing Fusion which by all rights should have been invented by Eric Lerner but he has largely been ostrasized by a corrupt Scientific Establishment that doesn't support anyone that doesn't advocate religion's Old Earth Creationist Big Bang Agenda. Dr. Lerner has provided a concise and detailed Cosmology supported by many Plasma scientists and head physicists at virtually every experimental laboratory. Only the theoreticians who his experiments have proven wrong and are all butt hurt have tried to treat him like an outcast.

When in reality, figures like Eric Lerner & Anthony Peratt are without a doubt two of the best real scientists of the modern era.

 

[TheLasersShadow]

LOL people don't know what he's talking about when he says 'debt liquidation' or 'business cycle' to throw in higgs bozon news would be retarded IMHO sorry to be harsh.

 

[Simple]

Couldn't possibly be more wrong. Think what has happened in the ~100 years since we've gained knowledge and control of the electron. We'd literally be writing with quills under oil lamps were it not for that. The Higgs is the same. Initially it seems insignificant just knowing something is there (it is actually very significant for that reason alone), but imagine in 50 years when we can control them. Mass will be decoupled from other properties in, say, structural materials. There is nothing more world-changing than that, atleast since the aforementioned electron discovery.

And that doesn't even begin to cover its implications on a theoretical level.

I guess this depends on which time scale you are looking at. I was thinking about global energy independence in our lifetime and you are referring to long term development potential. I concede your point and thank you sir for your insight.

This is an old thread, but I now will also concede that the pro-science vote isn't going to win many elections in South Carolina.

 

[nasaal]

They don't, and therein lies the problem. It's a measurement anomaly. Either that or everything we know about the universe is wrong. My money is on the former.

I dunno man, the neutrino tests shows no error in finding them moving faster than the speed of light. We really know almost nothing about the universe. The more we are learning, the more we are finding we know less and less. Very possible that we just don't understand what we thought we did.

 

[PieEconomics]

Sorry I missed this, nickel reacts with hydrogen to produce copper and the supposedly causes more heat to be produced than the reaction requires...

Now you've got it. Ron Paul's advisers need to get him up and running on this issue... and quick. National Instruments Corporation is helping Rossi put the finishing touches on the home E-cat unit. Production of 1 million units begins at a factory in Florida later this year. Negotiations are currently underway for additional manufacturing in Massachusetts*, and for distribution through Home Depot.

Watch the youtube video where Romney mentions cold fusion-- you can't mistake the twinkle in his eye-- he knows more than he is letting on.* Perhaps this is what Jon Huntsman was referring to in a recent debate where he said the big oil companies shouldn't have so much control over energy policy.

NASA, the US Navy, and many prominent scientists have validated LENR; what's not to get? Starting next year, the economic landscape will be forever changed by this single technology.

*Note: Massachusetts state senator Bruce Tarr is working with Rossi to bring LENR production to Massachusetts. This is the state Romney was governor of, so it is not unreasonable to think that Romney may have the inside scoop on this development.

 

[RonRules]

A small government Libertarian flavored Republican like Ron Paul would not fund such projects like the LHC. I also doubt that private individuals would spend that kind of cash to see a new boson.

Ron would be inconsistent if he were to approve govt funding of such a project.

That's where I differ slightly with Ron. Fundamental research and space exploration (beyond orbit) probably need gov. funding otherwise it would never happen. I favor a small budget allocation to pure fundamental research and such explorations.

 

[RonRules]

"nickel reacts with hydrogen to produce copper"

Sorry guys, but a chemical reaction of two ELEMENTS will not produce a third element.

 

[PieEconomics]

"nickel reacts with hydrogen to produce copper"

Sorry guys, but a chemical reaction of two ELEMENTS will not produce a third element.

It is not a chemical reaction. It is a nuclear reaction (although misnamed "cold fusion"). And LENR (low energy nuclear reaction) has been proven beyond doubt. The only issue is commercial viability, and while claims of commercial viability have not yet been 100% proven, it looks like that day is fast approaching. For one thing, National Instruments Corporation has confirmed its involvement, and Home Depot has not denied its involvement, in the expected commercial roll-out of actual product within a year.

Rossi has had to sell his house to further this product towards commercial production. Since the government acknowledges the technology as real and having profound implications for the economy, why hasn't it thrown tons of money at promoting commercial development and production? I believe the oil companies get lots of government incentives.

 

[fatjohn]

You mention a "3 sigma discovery", how many people in SC (or anywhere for that matter) even know what that means?

Yes, the probability that someone does not know what it means is probably close to 3 sigma.