School teacher killed by police for rolling up her car window

[azxd]

It avails little to know what ought to be done, if you do not know how it is to be done.

 

[Danke]

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I know this has been answered before. But what was a police officer doing that his reactions were so slow as to not react and pull his arm away while the woman was rolling up her window? sounds like he should have not been on the force to begin with. not strong enough to pull your arm out of a window, seriously? Ever heard of smash and grab? Take the butt of your gun and hit the goddamn window, it shatters.

 

[TheTexan]

I think we should stop issuing guns to cops altogether. They may still carry a weapon, but they will need to buy it themself, and follow the same rules as civilians do. If they brandish, discharge their weapon, or shoot someone - they will be tried as a civilian. Take 'shooting people' out of their job description, and replace that with 'protecting & serving people'.

 

[Anti Federalist]

bump

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I think we should stop issuing guns to cops altogether. They may still carry a weapon, but they will need to buy it themself, and follow the same rules as civilians do. If they brandish, discharge their weapon, or shoot someone - they will be tried as a civilian. Take 'shooting people' out of their job description, and replace that with 'protecting & serving people'.

It'd be a nice start, but courts at all levels have ruled that cops have no obligation to protect and/or serve. AF probably has the decisions handy.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It'd be a nice start, but courts at all levels have ruled that cops have no obligation to protect and/or serve. AF probably has the decisions handy.

One of the most recent.

There are literally hundreds at all levels that are basically saying the same thing.

WASHINGTON, June 27, 2005 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html

 

[libertyjam]

One of the most recent.

There are literally hundreds at all levels that are basically saying the same thing.




http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html

Rhetorical question, mainly directed at SC Justices, What good are they then!?

Obviously for the citizen, there is no Eff-ing use for them. Get rid of them!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Oh, and a quick scan of the news shows no new information, no charges, no updates, nothing so far from "officials".

The only current news is this plaintive bleating from the local paper's Op/Ed page.

Never is it about "justice", only about "closure" and "healing" and putting it all behind us so it can be forgotten as quickly as possible and we can all get back to mindless consuming and entertainment.

Fucking Quislings.


OUR VIEW: Not the attention we want

http://www2.starexponent.com/news/2012/mar/18/our-view-not-attention-we-want-ar-1775259/

By: Star-Exponent staff editorial | Culpeper Star Exponent
Published: March 18, 2012
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Friday morning, the Culpeper Chamber of Commerce hosted its annual “State of Culpeper” address.

Business people, local leaders and dignitaries sang the praises of our town, saying “Culpeper is a great place.”

That it is, but lately the town and county have received unwanted and negative attention for the handling of two high profile cases.

Many are upset by the town’s handling of the Patricia Cook shooting death by a Town of Culpeper police officer. The officer’s name has yet to be released and the Virginia State Police are still investigating the circumstances surrounding Cook’s Feb. 9 death.

It has been more than a month since Cook’s death and the community deserves answers. We’re sure the State Police are simply doing a thorough investigation into the case, but the longer the townsfolk are not informed, the more misinformation is spreading through our neighborhoods.

Rampant speculation on the identity of the officer has caused many to throw out incorrect names, possibly damaging the reputation of others who are sworn to serve and protect.

We hope, for the community’s sake, that the investigation is wrapped up soon and more information is released about that fateful day.

The drama isn’t limited to the town as the county is embroiled in the aftermath of the overturned conviction of Michael Wayne Hash.

Hash was freed Wednesday after serving 12 years in prison after being convicted of the capital murder of 74-year-old Thelma Scroggins in 1996.

Hash’s situation has already cost Culpeper its Commonwealth’s Attorney, Gary Close, as he resigned effective Tuesday.

The community simply wants answers in the handling of the case, and that’s what we’re hoping for when Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins holds a community meeting today at 3 p.m. at the Courthouse courtyard.

Jenkins was an investigator in the Hash case and has said he will address the situation at the meeting. We hope that he gives the community the answers it deserves instead of pointing the finger of blame in other directions.

Answers and closure is what Culpeper needs in both cases if the community plans on healing itself.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Going to make a new thread about this.

http://www2.starexponent.com/news/2...probe-requested-pat-cook-shooting-ar-1814557/

 

[jmdrake]

Going to make a new thread about this.

http://www2.starexponent.com/news/2...probe-requested-pat-cook-shooting-ar-1814557/

What? You mean you aren't just worried about a black kid killed by a neighborhood watch captain? You aren't giving the police a "pass" why trying to "fry" good upstanding citizens without a trial?

/sarcasm

Seriously, thanks for bumping this.

 

[gtrguy]

All, I started the Facebook page and petition because, at the 10 week mark, there had not been a single comment in our local paper or anywhere else for the 5 weeks prior to that. The officer is still on the payroll and no charges have been filed. We've now reached almost 900 signatures ( mine was the only one for a while ). The truly sad thing is how few people in our town have signed. Many are afraid, but most are just apathetic and simply want to not rock the boat. I appreciate seeing the interest in this shooting on this board. If you haven't already done so, please consider signing our petition. I plan on delivering it to the Special Prosecutor on June 1. We still need about 115 signatures to reach our original goal of 1,000 ( there's a petition about a dog being shot by a police officer in D.C. and they've got 33,000 signatures -- sad that a retired Sunday School teacher doesn't muster 1/33 of the sympathy for a shot dog -- not that that doesn't deserve sympathy, but she certainly deserves as much ). Obviously, the petition has no legal bearing on anything, but is an attempt to counteract the clear political pressure to bury this shooting. Not a single local official has called for any eventual release of information, and in VA, the special grand jury, has the authority to exonerate the officer and seal all testimony. This exact thing happened a few years ago in Appomattox, in a death where 6 sheriff's deputies swarmed an unarmed man and he died. It took 2 years to exonerate them all, never went to trial and no details were ever released. I'm cautiously optimistic that the Special Grand Jury ( which is expected to complete in mid-end June ) will do the right thing and either indict this officer, or release all the evidence, with a clearly justifiable reason for shooting Mrs Cook. That will be a difficult process as the death certificate makes it clear that she was shot in the arm, head, neck, and multiple times in the back.. and ballistics show that he followed her from the parking lot and continued to unload his glock into her vehicle as she attempted to drive away ( in one of the busiest parts of town, in the middle of the day ... endangering anyone who might have been passing by ).

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Patricia-Cook/405709186116293

http://www.change.org/petitions/spe...ainst-police-officer-who-killed-patricia-cook

 

[mport1]

This is what happens when there is a monopoly on force.

This. And obedience is what this is all about. If you don't obey everything a cop wants immediately you may be arrested, assaulted, or murdered.

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Patricia-Cook/405709186116293

http://www.change.org/petitions/spe...ainst-police-officer-who-killed-patricia-cook

I don't FarceBook but I signed your petition.

( there's a petition about a dog being shot by a police officer in D.C. and they've got 33,000 signatures -- sad that a retired Sunday School teacher doesn't muster 1/33 of the sympathy for a shot dog -- not that that doesn't deserve sympathy, but she certainly deserves as much )

I hope you stick around and become part of the forum here, welcome aboard.

If you do, you'll see why that is.

 

[AGRP]

A grand jury charged Town of Culpeper Police Officer Daniel Harmon-Wright, 32, of Gainesville, Tuesday evening with murder, malicious shooting into an occupied vehicle, malicious shooting into an occupied vehicle resulting in a death and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...ged-in-February-Fatal-Shooting-155502385.html

 

[Anti Federalist]

This guy had more aliases than a mob boss.

Hopefully some justice will be done.

 

[AGRP]

This guy had more aliases than a mob boss.

Hopefully some justice will be done.

Speaking of the mob:

The grand jury also indicted Harmon-Wright’s mother, 55-year-old Bethany Sullivan, of Orange, on three counts of uttering and three counts of forgery of public documents. Their investigation revealed her alleged role in attempting to purge negative information from her son’ personnel file. She had been an administrative secretary to the chief of police when her son was hired.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...ged-in-February-Fatal-Shooting-155502385.html

 

[phill4paul]

-Patricia-Cook/405709186116293[/url]

http://www.change.org/petitions/spe...ainst-police-officer-who-killed-patricia-cook

Done...you are at 1002 now.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Speaking of the mob:

There is no rule of law for the 3 branches of tyranny. If this was a major police department, Harmon-Wright would of walked. Information I receive from associates working LE, bigger the department, the more we get away with now... they have attorneys white washing documents PRIOR to official submission of LE.

Now grab the popcorn, because the Judicial Branch and LE will run their best, "Let's Make A Deal" bargain, then the judge can reduce it even further.

PS: I feel bad about the VET that was murdered by police at that Las Vegas COSTCO, they got away with it completely.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

PS: I feel bad about the VET that was murdered by police at that Las Vegas COSTCO, they got away with it completely.

Yeah, that one was terrible. The difference is that the Costco case was one of gross incompetence all the way around. This case was more about a cop who intentionally committed murder out of anger.

As a matter of fact, the Costco case was more of a variation of the new trend of "SWATing" a person. The cashier who initiated this episode did so because she jumped to the conclusion that Erik Scott had been battering his girlfriend. She then alerted store security, who ramped it up a notch and contacted the Police. The end results of this accusation are now history.

 

[TheTexan]

I'm actually surprised it's getting taken to court at all... kinda pokes a hole in my "no video didn't happen" theory

It may have to become a "no video and no more than 2 years in jail" theory, which just doesn't have the same ring to it