School nurse all but calls me a murderer for refusing to vaccinate my daughters

[RickyJ]

Idiots are in all professions, with more of them being in teaching and nursing than others, so I am not shocked that a nurse would accuse someone of being a murderer for not vaccinating their children.

 

[donnay]

Seizure Disorder after MMR vaccination
http://www.whale.to/m/mmr.html

Seizure risk with MMR vaccine slight, temporary
http://www.whale.to/a/sei.html

BABY HAS SEIZURE AFTER RECEIVING A COMBINED VACCINE
http://www.whale.to/a/dpt666.html

Court case--1998-Rachael Lampe--residual seizure disorder and subsequent mental retardation http://www.law.gwu.edu/fedcl/Opinions/Horn/98/Lampe2.htm
Court case--Kristy M. Henkel (1998)--seizures, tuberous sclerosis ("TS"). http://www.law.gwu.edu/fedcl/Opinions/Miller/98/HENKEL.htm
Court case--Rachel Plavin ("Rachel")--seizures (case denied) (Aug 1998) http://www.law.gwu.edu/fedcl/Opinions/Tidwell/98/PlavinvUS.htm
Court case--Diane C. Lett (1998)--residual seizure disorder (case affirmed) http://www.law.gwu.edu/fedcl/Opinions/Turner/98/LETT.htm
Court case--Michael Hanlon (March 1998)--seizure disorder (case denied) http://www.law.gwu.edu/fedcl/Opinions/Turner/98/HANLON.htm
Court case--Rachel Leah Reiss-Plavin ("Rachel") (1998)--residual seizure disorder ("RSD")---Rachel received her first Diphtheria-Pertussis-Tetanus ("DPT") vaccination on August 4, 1989 at the age of two months. She received her second DPT vaccination on September 15, 1989, In November 1989, Rachel was diagnosed with Tuberous Sclerosis ("TS"), a neurocutaneous genetic disorder affecting the skin and nervous system.

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/seizures.html

 

[ShaneEnochs]

I was vaccinated, so I got my children vaccinated. I don't particularly care what other people do with their children. I will say this, though: my brother's daughter had whooping cough when she was an infant. It was the most terrible thing I had ever heard. She would cough until she started making gurgling sounds like she was drowning. Then a long squeal as she took in a breath. She would cough over and over and over and over again. For months. I'm not sure whether or not he had her vaccinated against it, but just hearing her cough like that... ugh. So I made sure both of mine were vaccinated.

 

[presence]

I was vaccinated, so I got my children vaccinated. I don't particularly care what other people do with their children. I will say this, though: my brother's daughter had whooping cough when she was an infant. It was the most terrible thing I had ever heard. She would cough until she started making gurgling sounds like she was drowning. Then a long squeal as she took in a breath. She would cough over and over and over and over again. For months. I'm not sure whether or not he had her vaccinated against it, but just hearing her cough like that... ugh. So I made sure both of mine were vaccinated.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ay-be-becoming-resistant-to-vaccines/1903439/

even fully vaccinated children — who have received all five doses recommended by age 4 to 6 — could still be vulnerable to the disease by age 10
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the bacteria that cause whooping cough are becoming resistant to vaccines
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2012 saw the largest whooping cough outbreak since 1955

 

[ShaneEnochs]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ay-be-becoming-resistant-to-vaccines/1903439/

Ah, that's no good at all. Seriously though, it's an absolutely terrible thing for kids to catch.

 

[BucksforPaul]

Really? You may want to do some research and think that through before replying with a knee-jerk answer.

/End thread and +rep.

Notice how the poisoners do not want to touch this video.

 

[KingNothing]

/End thread and +rep.

Notice how the poisoners do not want to touch this video.

No, I just ignore everything Donnay links to because I've had my fill of pseudo-science and distortion.

 

[donnay]

CHAPTER V
CANCER CAUSED BY VACCINATION

"The chief, if not the sole cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination."—Dr. Robert Bell, the famous cancer specialist of the British Cancer Hospital.

We do not claim that vaccination is the only cause of cancer although Dr. Bell (quoted above) observed so many cases of cancers at the site of the vaccination and elsewhere, but directly traced to this cause that he affirmed that vaccination was the cause of the great increase in the cancer rate.

Dr Bell is just one of the many authorities who have been faced with the uncomfortable realization that the blood contamination from vaccines is one of the leading causes of cancer.

Dr. E. J. Post, a prominent physician of Berlmont, Michigan, said:

"I HAVE REMOVED CANCERS FROM VACCINATED ARMS EXACTLY WHERE THE POISON WAS INJECTED."

In the New York Press, January 26, 1909, W. B. Clark stated:

"Cancer was practically unknown until cowpox vaccination began to be introduced. I have had to do with 200 cases of cancer and I NEVER SAW A CASE OF CANCER IN AN UNVACCINATED PERSON."

Read more: http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html#CHAPTER V

 

[papitosabe]

you gotta love this piece w/DR and the H1N1 virus...he'd recommended the virus throughout the entire interview, and then.... go to 4:41

 

[donnay]

you gotta love this piece w/DR and the H1N1 virus...he'd recommended the virus throughout the entire interview, and then.... go to 4:41

Dr. Oz has a huge conflict of interest in all of this since he owns 500,000 shares of SIGA Technologies'. SIGA Technologies' is a company that works in vaccine development.

"SIGA Technologies is trying to put itself on the front lines of US biodefense efforts. The drug company has a number of development programs for vaccines, antivirals, and antibiotics for drug resistant infections; however, its main focus is on vaccines for bio-defense. The company's smallpox vaccine ST-246, which is intended both to prevent and treat the disease, has received Fast Track and Orphan Drug designations from the FDA. SIGA is also developing vaccines for use against hemorrhagic fevers and other infectious diseases and biothreats."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/027483_SIGA_Technologies_vaccines.html#ixzz2LArCtpzj

Another thing, I am old enough to remember doctors and nurses cautioning pregnant women not to ever get vaccinated. Now that is all they push. If drinking and smoking is bad for the baby, according to all the experts, how come shooting live viruses and toxins into your bloodstream isn't?

 

[Zippyjuan]

CHAPTER V
CANCER CAUSED BY VACCINATION

"The chief, if not the sole cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination."—Dr. Robert Bell, the famous cancer specialist of the British Cancer Hospital.

We do not claim that vaccination is the only cause of cancer although Dr. Bell (quoted above) observed so many cases of cancers at the site of the vaccination and elsewhere, but directly traced to this cause that he affirmed that vaccination was the cause of the great increase in the cancer rate.

Dr Bell is just one of the many authorities who have been faced with the uncomfortable realization that the blood contamination from vaccines is one of the leading causes of cancer.

Dr. E. J. Post, a prominent physician of Berlmont, Michigan, said:

"I HAVE REMOVED CANCERS FROM VACCINATED ARMS EXACTLY WHERE THE POISON WAS INJECTED."

In the New York Press, January 26, 1909, W. B. Clark stated:

"Cancer was practically unknown until cowpox vaccination began to be introduced. I have had to do with 200 cases of cancer and I NEVER SAW A CASE OF CANCER IN AN UNVACCINATED PERSON."

Read more: http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html#CHAPTER V

As a note- Dr Bell was a doctor in the 1800s. A lot has changed since then. He is not a currently living physician.


http://simplehealthsolutions.info/hall-of-fame/dr-robert-bellprevious-injurydiet/

Originally from Glasgow, Scotland, Dr. Bell moved to London, where he practiced medicine for over half a century. In 1894, he abandoned surgery as useless, and began trying to determine better methods of eliminating cancer.

Bell was a distinguished physician who, in the 1870s, had devised an improved method of treating diphtheria and an improvement in treating smallpox which eliminated the secondary fever. In the 1880s, he identified constipation as a cause of disease and named the resulting absorption of toxic material into the blood “autotoxemia.”

Sure few cancers were found in the early 1800s and before. Two reasons. One is that they weren't looking for cancer in patients and would not have recognized it unless the patient had a massive tumor. Second, most cancers develop later in life and the life expectancy was much lower then- people didn't live long enough to develop most cancers.

"I never saw a cancer in a vaccinated person" probably because 90+% of people are vaccinated.

Cancer has been identified in ancient mummies so yes- it does pre-date vaccines.

History of Cancer


Cancer as described by the ancient Egyptians (3000 BC to 1500 BC)
Human cancer is probably as old as the human race. It is obvious that cancer did not suddenly start appearing after modernization or industrial revolution. The oldest known description of human cancer is found in an Egyptian seven papyri or writing written between 3000-1500 BC. Two of them, known as the "Edwin Smith" and "George Ebers" papyri, contain details of conditions that are consistent with modern descriptions of cancer. The Edwin Smith Papyrus, describes 8 cases of tumors or ulcers of the breast. The document acknowledged that there is no treatment for this condition and recommended cauterization (the fire drill) as a palliative measure. The ancient Egyptian medicine typically mixed medicine and religion. These physicians treated patients for several forms of cancer. Hieroglyphic inscriptions and papyri manuscripts suggest that these ancient physicians were able to distinguish between benign and malignant tumors. They suggested that the surface tumors may be removed surgically much similar to the current medical practice. Compounds of barley, pigs ear and other indigenous materials were suggested as treatment for cancer of the stomach and the uterus. Other commonly dispensed medications included ointments, enemas, castor oil, suppositories, poultices and animal parts.




Oldest specimens of cancer (1900 BC to 1500 BC)
The oldest available specimen of a human cancer is found in the remains of skull of a female who lived during the Bronze Age (1900-1600 BC) The tumor in the womens skull was suggestive of head and neck cancer. The mummified skeletal remains of Peruvian Incas, dating back 2400 years ago, contained abnormalities suggestive of involvement with malignant melanoma. Cancer was also found in fossilized bones recovered from ancient Egypt. Louis Leakey found the oldest possible hominid malignant tumor in 1932 from the remains of a body, which could be either that of Homo erectus or an Australopithecus. This tumor had features suggestive of a Burkitts lymphoma.

Origin of the word carcinoma
Hippocrates, the great Greek physician (460-370 B.C), who is considered the father of medicine is though to be the first person to clearly recognize difference between benign and malignant tumors. His writings include description of cancers involving various body sites. Hippocrates noticed that blood vessels around a malignant tumor looked like the claws of crab. He named the disease karkinos (the Greek name for crab) to describe tumors that may or may not progress to ulceration. In English this term translates to carcinos or carcinoma. Works of Hippocrates and Galen, another Greek physician have revolutionized the practice of medicine by removing it from grips of superstitions and magic, to the era of observation and logical reasoning.

Constantinople in the history of cancer
Later in the course of history, Constantinople became the intellectual headquarters of medicine. The ancient teachings of Hippocrates and Galen continued to influence the physicians in Constantinople, Cairo, Alexandria, and Athens. During this period the cause of cancer was explained as the result of an excess of black bile.

Renaissance period
During the Renaissance, beginning in the 15th century, physicians acquired greater knowledge of the anatomy and physiology of the human body. This started an era, which has seen the advancement of surgery and development of rational therapies based on clinical observations. The theory that cancer is caused by excess of black bile continued to prevail through the 16th century. At this time cancer was considered incurable, however a variety of temporary measures were available including creams and pastes containing arsenic. Autopsies, performed by Harvey in the 17th century, gave an insight in to the circulation system. By about the same period Gaspare Aselli discovered the lymphatic system and this led to the end of the old theory of black bile as the cause of cancer. The new theory suggested that abnormalities in the lymph and lymphatic system as the primary cause of cancer. A French physician, Claude Gendron suggested that cancer arises locally as a hard, growing mass, untreatable with drugs, and must be removed with all its "filaments."

Eighteenth century to modern era
Jean Astruc and chemist Bernard, two 18th century physicians conducted research to confirm or disprove then current theories related to the origin of cancer. These efforts were the very first steps of experimental oncology. The art and science of seeking better diagnosis, treatments and understanding of the causes of cancer evolved from many who followed their path. In 1761, Giovanni Morgagni of Padua was the first to do an autopsy to look for the pathological findings in a patient after death. This and the efforts of many great physicians who followed them laid the foundation for scientific oncology, the study of cancer. John Hunter (1728-1793), a famous Scottish surgeon suggested that some cancers might be cured by surgery and described methods by which we can distinguish the surgically removable tumors. He suggested that, if tumor has not encroached to the nearby tissue and was still moveable, "There is no impropriety in removing it."

Discovery of anesthesia in 1844 by Wells allowed surgery to flourish and the classic cancer operations such as radical mastectomy were developed. The discovery of microscope by Leeuwenhoek in the late 17th century added momentum to the quest for the cause of cancer. By late19th century, with the development of better microscopes to study cancer tissues scientists gained more knowledge about the cancer process. These studies showed that cancer cells are markedly different in appearance compared to the surrounding normal cells from which they originated. Rudolf Virchow, who is often called the founder of cellular pathology, provided the scientific basis for the modern pathologic study of cancer and correlated the clinical course of illness with microscopic findings. This approach led to the development of modern cancer surgery. Tissues removed by the surgeons were examined under the microscope to make a precise diagnosis of cancer. By looking at the cut margin of surgery the pathologist were able to tell the surgeon if the cooperative procedure had completely removed the tumor.

The early 20th century saw great progress in our understanding of microscopic structure and functioning of the living cells. Researchers pursued different theories to the origin of cancer, subjecting their hypotheses to systematic research and experimentation. A virus causing cancer in chickens was identified in 1911. Existence of many chemical and physical carcinogens were conclusively identified during later part of the 20th century. Later part of the 20th century showed tremendous improvement in our understanding of the cellular mechanisms related to cell growth and division. Many factors that suppress and activate the cell growth and division were identified. The current concept of development of cancer is discussed in detail in the section, "what is cancer?"

 

[BlackJack]

Source?

Google is your friend.

 

[MelissaWV]

Erm, I've known people who've gotten cancer and have been non-vaccinated or low-vaccinated. Sometimes you cannot hide from your genes, or the toxins around us.

 

[KingNothing]

Idiots are in all professions, with more of them being in teaching and nursing than others, so I am not shocked that a nurse would accuse someone of being a murderer for not vaccinating their children.

There aren't "more idiots" in teaching, and especially nursing, than other professions. What a terrible, idiotic, offensive thing to say.

 

[DamianTV]

She accuses you of murdering your own children while she is responsible for murdering as many children as she has vaccinated.

 

[tfurrh]

This.

There are some nurses that refuse to vaccinate their children or allow themselves to be vaccinated. So there is at least some disagreement among those in the field.

Im about to graduate Pre-med, my wife is an RN working on her MSN. We do not vaccinate.

 

[donnay]

How the Drug Companies Make Vaccines

 

[HigherVision]

Vaccines are to medicine what preemptive war is to international relations. Oh I'm so scared of getting sick I'm going to inject myself with all sorts of wild crap that's not healthy in order to try to prevent it, and I'm going to do so to my kids as well. It's bullshit. So is circumcision.

 

[PierzStyx]

I work in a hospital. Back at the start of flu season they made us all either get the flu vaccineor wear a face mask all shift. Well I refused. My refusal for treatment form was ghoul of the dworst lies and scare tactics. Not only did it imply that I could be responsible for the deaths of every patient in the hospital, but it also said I could be the cause of the deaths of all my loved ones, especially my children. Absolutely pissed me off. I filled the form with notes contradicting its lies.

 

[donnay]

I work in a hospital. Back at the start of flu season they made us all either get the flu vaccineor wear a face mask all shift. Well I refused. My refusal for treatment form was ghoul of the dworst lies and scare tactics. Not only did it imply that I could be responsible for the deaths of every patient in the hospital, but it also said I could be the cause of the deaths of all my loved ones, especially my children. Absolutely pissed me off. I filled the form with notes contradicting its lies.

It is insane, IMHO. Not to mention the healthcare workers I know who were forced to vaccinate against the flu were given Influenza A vaccine while the cases of Flu that filled up the hospital and clinics around this area were Influenza B.

It's a shame they don't promote good nutrition that will help boost your immune system. Because the bottom line is a good healthy immune system will help people recover from flu's a whole lot faster than medication. Nevertheless, there is no money to be made with healthy people.