SC Debate - FNC (1/16/12) 9pm ET - Official Thread

[XxNeXuSxX]

To be honest I think he did. He started talking about tort law being a state's issue, rather than how great his pro-gun record is. This redneck crowd will NOT understand tort law being a state issue RATHER than being a national issue.

So a fallacy defeats logic?

 

[jclay2]

I love it according to Santorem, Ron Paul wants to kill the second amendment because of some random gun manufacture liability bill? All the while, ron is the one who has written and backed bills to allow assault weapons.

 

[jumpyg1258]

LOL of course Romney wants to get rid of those laws so that he can get money from corporations anonymously.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Audience members are all members of the media and GOP insiders. I saw at least 7 faces I recognize. No wonder they all cheer for war and boo Ron Paul. It's sad though because the power of a cheering or booing audience has powerful psychological effects. It's why comedy sitcoms had laugh tracks, so people would find shows funny when they really weren't. For an average dumb group minded American watching that knows nothing about politics, they listen for cheers and boos to decide what issue in the debate is right or wrong.

 

[AuH20]

He didn't get owned, he got out-politicked.
You're gonna have to watch the replay, it was nuanced, and he was right.

True. Santorum surprisingly slipped one by him.

 

[Kevin Smyth]

Romney condemns a McCain/Feingold bill while accepting an endorsement from McCain?

 

[3kgt]

They booed the golden rule. How can you have a civilized debate when your argument is the fucking golden rule and you're getting jeered?

Just remember...its a Fox debate...no use getting worked up

 

[sirachman]

removed

 

[kill the banks]

thx Matt great ad

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

The people weren't like this until 911. 911 revved up an irrational level of nationalism.

And there are still lots of folks who don't believe that 9/11 was a false flag attack intended to create just such an atmosphere. I don't know if that's funny or sad.

 

[Firehouse26]

How he didn't get fired up and re quote himself that the GOA is the only "Non-compromise Gun Lobby" in D.C. and throw those trigger lock laws back in his face, I don't know. Santorum, Perry, Gingrich and fox are co-opting RP's buzz words to bury him in SC so they can keep their heads above water into Florida, I am usually positive, but I couldn't have imagined it being this grossly biased tonight.

 

[Eric21ND]

I moved to Central America 4 years ago to never return. Best decision in my life. I feel sorry for you guys still stuck in the US. If Ron got elected I would consider returning but I won't bank on it.

Where do you live?

 

[The Freethinker]

This crowd sickens just as much as Santorum and Romney do. They are so ignorant it sickens me.

And I bet you guys know plenty of sheeple around you, as I do.

 

[wgadget]

WHY HASN'T PERRY ALREADY DONE IT?

DAMN.

 

[jumpyg1258]

LOL Mr. Perry, the state with the longest border is Alaska you dumb fuck.

 

[mport1]

The people in that audience don't like Ron Paul's position on that. It doesn't matter how he says it.

He got the audience to boo the Golden Rule. That's a pretty good victory for Ron Paul there.

Sure, a lot of people won't like his position no matter what. However, he can polish his answers so they come off much better.

 

[fisharmor]

I wonder which country we are going to nuke first and when.

I think it's clear: it'll be the first state to secede.

 

[3kgt]

Audience members are all members of the media and GOP insiders. I saw at least 7 faces I recognize. No wonder they all cheer for war and boo Ron Paul. It's sad though because the power of a cheering or booing audience has powerful psychological effects. It's why comedy sitcoms had laugh tracks, so people would find shows funny when they really weren't. For an average dumb group minded American watching that knows nothing about politics, they listen for cheers and boos to decide what issue in the debate is right or wrong.

I knew they picked that crowd with purpose. I just don't like saying anything about it because it feels like whining.

 

[jersdream]

So a fallacy defeats logic?

Well, considering the crowd yes.

In reality, among intelligent, free thinkers, absolutely not.

But we are talking about election politics, not academic debate. That is the lens we have to look through. Santorum definitely got the better of it. In a real academic debate, Ron smashed him. But Ron refused to talk about his pro-gun record besides quickly and softly mentioning he is against all the laws.

 

[Firehouse26]

Druge feels our pain

No doubt Matt thinks we're getting a raw deal, hence the front page of Drudge.