Sarah Palin a (small “l”) libertarian

[Menthol Patch]

I reck'on you are getting carried away.

Those sort of comparisons are childish.

No, it's the truth.

 

[Menthol Patch]

And just like Barr.

Barr is bad, but Sarah Palin is much worse.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I agree with the OP. Palin is no "blank slate". That is what the neo cons THINK she is. That is why they selected her. To mold her. I believe the woman is savvy enough to play the game, and hopefully be able to manipulate some libertarian change...pull them back, so to speak. I say ya'll are WRONG about Palin. You are simply haters and revolutionaries. I agree that the Liberty movement must march forward...and continute to build during the next 4 years...but what if Sarah Palin, who IS libertarian minded, even if you folks refuse to admit it at the moment, becomes president? We COULD have a real foot in the door. I dont' see how Palin could get in if she doesn't play the game??? LIBERTY NOW< LIBERTY FOREVER! TONES

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

If Palin is McCain's running mate, how can she go on teh campaign trail and speak like RON PAUL? Common sense people, common sense. smh TONES

 

[acptulsa]

If Palin is McCain's running mate, how can she go on teh campaign trail and speak like RON PAUL? Common sense people, common sense. smh TONES

It is McCain's plan to rebuild Reagan's 'three legged stool', otherwise known as the Reagan Coalition. You have faith that Palin is a pure-hearted libertarian. Have you any proof? Can you tell us why you feel that way? There are plenty of instances in her voting record from long before she was offered the running mate spot that say otherwise. Actions speak louder than words, and votes are more indicative than lip service--especially lip service to an obvious end.

You've talked up your faith in her incessantly. Show us some votes that will back your theory up, please. That would be much more useful to your cause than just being repetitious.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

ACPTULSA! come on...the OP listed it. Sarah Palin worked with the Alaskan Independent Party, she limited government spending, she cleaned up the corruption in Alaskan government and she even went against her OWN party to do it. She likes Ron Paul. She supported Pat Buchanan. How many TIMES do I have to list this chit??? It doesn't sink IN because you WANT to hate her. You want to believe the LEFT WING COMMUNIST SMEAR CAMPAIGN. People on this forum don't SEE yourselves objectively ...not at all. Sometimes I feel like I'm dealing with a bunch of KIDS! Have ya'll become so programmed that you can't consider alternate ideas...or look at all the options? Can you connect dots or read between the lines? Have you become the very thing you claim to oppose? I say this forum has become INTOLERANT of people who are not in lockstep with Ron Paul and the Campaign for Liberty!! While I understand this is a Ron Paul forum...and I respect Ron Paul, does that mean I don't have the liberty to look around at what other people say also? Is there LIBERTY HERE? TONES

 

[Andrew-Austin]

I believe the woman is savvy enough to play the game, and hopefully be able to manipulate some libertarian change...pull them back, so to speak.

Oh yes she is maverick savvy, savvy enough to embrace McCain's "bomb bomb bomb Iran" policy and be pro-WW3.

I say ya'll are WRONG about Palin. You are simply haters and revolutionaries.

We're fucking realistic, I don't hate anybody.

I agree that the Liberty movement must march forward...and continute to build during the next 4 years...but what if Sarah Palin, who IS libertarian minded, even if you folks refuse to admit it at the moment, becomes president?

No reason to bank on that random "if" statement. There is next to nothing to say she is libertarian minded. I know there isn't much politicians out there we can feel cheery about and we gotta hold this "big tent" doctrine for w/e reason, but come on now. Either be the 50th person to make a "I'm voting for McCain thread" or drop it.

We COULD have a real foot in the door. I dont' see how Palin could get in if she doesn't play the game???

Washington power is not a "game", you either sell your soul or you don't. Palin's rhetoric is indicating she has sold her soul. If she tries to pull any stunt her very life will be threatened, her family will be threatened.

Your not the first person to speculate that she is just "playing the system", but its weak theory.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't recall Ron Paul opining on the subject of Sarah Palin one way or the other, tones. I just asked for a little insight on a politician you like derived from the one thing about a politician that really counts--a voting record.

The "left loon smear" people work on emotion. McCain pushes buttons and tries to work from emotion. Palin actually lies because those lies push emotional buttons that work, and people like having those buttons pushed so much that they don't care what the facts are. And here you are pushing emotional buttons yourself. Near as I can tell, your argument that we should all vote for McCain--whom almost all of us mistrust, disbelieve and loathe--is that Palin is playing neocon to "burrow from within" so God can kill McCain and Palin can double-cross her current benefactors. Is it really too much for me to ask you to show some snippet of voting record--not vague promises, not meetings attended or other pandering, but actual votes that counted--to back this theory up?

Do you really think we can't read between the lines? Do you really think that we, as Ron Paul supporters, can't consider alternatives? Who is not looking at herself objectively? Come on, now...

P.S. You can't speak for God and you sure aren't looking at me objectively.

 

[Ozwest]

Seriously.

It might be a good idea to get your snout out of everyones business, and start examining some home grown truths.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Yes..I believe that a large percentage of people on this forum dont' look at other opinions and options. I love Ron Paul and I agree with MOST of what he says. I have been looking at this "free market" idea lately...and I'm not so sure it's the best way. I am coming to believe PROTECTIOISM, Hamiltonian economic philosophy is the BETTER way to go. That's not Ron Paul, sorry...but free market, which has ended up being GLOBALISM...has ruined this country. I consider tariffs the better way...bring our manufacturing back...sell to our OWN people...worry about OUR country..not GLOBALISM. Provide decent paying jobs for AMERICANS. On this forum, if I express something that is not Paulian, I get lambasted...and when I make posts...with alternate ideas...they don't get read...because I'm the "enemy" or a "troll". What voting record IS there on Palin? She had no vote ...she wasn't in the senate or house. Where is any sort of voting record? You have to be in one of those entities in order to have a VOTING record. geesh! Tones

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Ozwest...you are really a nasty person. I 'm seeing more and more people on this forum sounding just as nasty as the left wing secular progressives. SMH. I am telling ya'll, if you dont' change your childish ways, anyone new who comes here will bolt right away. SHAME! Tones

 

[Highland]

http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/22/sarah-palin-a-small-l-libertarian/


She is one of our own. Please support her.

She is not running for President....McStain is....if you didn't notice...this is the "Ron Paul Forums" if Palin needs support, she can go to Walmart and get some support hosiery for all I care.

Palin is a puppet and if people don't see that then they need to get their eyes checked.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Ron Paul isn't running. Tones

 

[Ozwest]

Ozwest...you are really a nasty person. I 'm seeing more and more people on this forum sounding just as nasty as the left wing secular progressives. SMH. I am telling ya'll, if you dont' change your childish ways, anyone new who comes here will bolt right away. SHAME! Tones

Is that so.

You would prefer boredom.

Perhaps blind faith suits you.

 

[Indy Vidual]

Sarah Palin a (small “l”) libertarian

No, she certainly is not.

 

[acptulsa]

She had no vote ...she wasn't in the senate or house. Where is any sort of voting record? You have to be in one of those entities in order to have a VOTING record. geesh! Tones

She voted on lots of things. None had national or international scope, I admit, but she voted on lots of things.

You have a theory on God's plan and Palin's motivations and you want us all to buy in, but you can't back it up--the last part despite the fact that the lady does have something of a public record and the former part by definition. Please don't flame us because we don't automatically buy right in. We have good reasons to be skeptical. If you want to be respected for your not unreasonable tariffs stance, you must be careful to remember that flaming us for a theory of possible divine intervention isn't necessarily the way to go, as it doesn't exactly show us the same respect...

 

[Highland]

Ron Paul isn't running. Tones

No...you are right...he is not running, but he did run AGAINST MCCAIN....and is still against McCain. I am not saying I do everything RP says, but I do follow his line of thinking and agree. What I detest is warmongering and killing....as a Christian, and I know you to be also Tones, killing and profiteering is unconscionable...do you think Jesus would say, Vote for Pilot???? of course not. Really Tones, encouraging us to vote McCain because of Palin is a lost cause and really kinda like a hit in the gut. Do you see Jesus in McCain Palin, because I cannot.:o

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I am not trying to convince ANYONE to vote for Palin. Everyone should vote for who they want to vote for. I would just like to NOT be raked over the coals on this forum if I am not in lockstep with Ron Paul...I don't reckon I'm the type that would be in lockstep with anyone. I am a free thinker. I consider all options...as I said. I like a lot of Ron Paul's ideas but he's not perfect either. I would rather "float"..and not be fettered. I really dislike the neo cons and I don't see Palin as one of them. I am reading more Pat Buchanan these days. It really distressed me when I found out Ron Paul didnt' even write his own book. Ron Paul could have at least have been honest about that. I probably would have still bought the thing. If Palin has to play a game with these wicked barstards in Washington to get in...so be it. If I am wrong about her...well, then I will have to eat crow. TOnes

 

[dannno]

Yes. Ignoring the problem, as you would have us do, doesn't make it go away. Ron Paul is largely correct on what the USA has done to inspire such hatred, but at this point its simply too late to pull out and believe that there won't be any hard feelings. We know for a fact that Iran is building nuclear weapons, and we know for a fact that they are intent on using them against us. Ignoring this because you don't like it, is the greatest betrayal to the cause of liberty. If Paul had not been so naive on this single vital issue, he might very well have had the nomination by now.

What the hell are you doing here????

Please read "A Foreign Policy of Freedom" by Ron Paul before posting any more.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Yes..I believe that a large percentage of people on this forum dont' look at other opinions and options. I love Ron Paul and I agree with MOST of what he says. I have been looking at this "free market" idea lately...and I'm not so sure it's the best way. I am coming to believe PROTECTIOISM, Hamiltonian economic philosophy is the BETTER way to go. That's not Ron Paul, sorry...but free market, which has ended up being GLOBALISM...has ruined this country. I consider tariffs the better way...bring our manufacturing back...sell to our OWN people...worry about OUR country..not GLOBALISM. Provide decent paying jobs for AMERICANS. On this forum, if I express something that is not Paulian, I get lambasted...and when I make posts...with alternate ideas...they don't get read...because I'm the "enemy" or a "troll". What voting record IS there on Palin? She had no vote ...she wasn't in the senate or house. Where is any sort of voting record? You have to be in one of those entities in order to have a VOTING record. geesh! Tones

You might be getting lambasted because your sentence structure is annoying and you type every other word in caps in a seemingly emotional way. Calm down and stop trying to make yourself into some persecuted minority.

I'm open minded, I'm just not familar with "Hamiltonian economic philosophy" and why protectionism is better than the free market. Feel free to explain because I can't just accept something because you say so. What does this have to do with Palin again?

Your right Tones, no one here wants to vote or support McCain, and no amount of ranting can persaude people otherwise.