Sarah Palin a (small “l”) libertarian

"We know for a fact"...care to back those statements up with some actual evidence?

Originally Posted by jemartinsen81
Yes. Ignoring the problem, as you would have us do, doesn't make it go away. Ron Paul is largely correct on what the USA has done to inspire such hatred, but at this point its simply too late to pull out and believe that there won't be any hard feelings. We know for a fact that Iran is building nuclear weapons, and we know for a fact that they are intent on using them against us. Ignoring this because you don't like it, is the greatest betrayal to the cause of liberty. If Paul had not been so naive on this single vital issue, he might very well have had the nomination by now.

We know you're a shill for the GOP, but you don't have to be so obvious about it.

Wow, jem81, you post is so wrong-minded and cliched, it's laughable. Talk about McCain talking points, wow. You need to spend some more time on this forum reading up on why Ron Paul holds the positions he does before throwing this kind of bait around here.

Did the facts about iran's 'newcular' program come from the same folks who told us about the stockpiles of WMD's? You talk so tough, but are you really afraid of a nation half way around the world to not let them have some sticks and stones to defend themselves? Do you think a sovereign nation has a right to build up arms? If you were in a small country with the largest superpower in the world threatening nuclear strike at you, would you try to defend your land, or just give in? Why have you let your fear get the best of you? You do realize that 9-11 was perpetrated by people who lived in this country for years, with COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT, were from SAUDI ARABIA, and did it because they want our military out of THEIR COUNTRY? 9-11 was not the result of a small Muslim nation firing nuclear warheads at the Trade Center.
 





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"We know for a fact"...care to back those statements up with some actual evidence?

We know you're a shill for the GOP, but you don't have to be so obvious about it.

I've never been a member of the GOP, and never will be. I'm more partial to the Ayn Rand Institute and the Cato Institute. In any case, while studying capitalism and defending our liberties at home is certainly admirable, you should follow foreign policy more closely before supporting such a radical view as withdrawing all troops and disbanding all bases immediately. The fact that Iran is building nuclear weapons is not contested at all, nor is the fact that they will be using them against Israel (they openly admit to both). Trusting rogue terrorist nations not to use them against the USA as well, when their ideology is diametrically opposed to ours and they take every opportunity to display their sheer hatred for us, and openly broadcast that they do seek world domination (something which is thoroughly expressed in the holy texts they're willing to die for), is very naive.

Educate yourselves:
Middle East Forum
Frontpage Magazine
Jihad Watch
Daniel Pipes website

I'm not going to press this as it's off-topic in this thread, and as its hopeless to reach through to most of the people who frequent this forum when it comes to Islamofascism, but I needed to express my opinion. Its not islamophobia when they *are* trying to kill you.
 
Lip service feels real good but it won't sustain your family line. You trollwhores might as well go blow those horns elsewhere.

But, I was raised in America for 17 years.

Why do I wish to lose my accent.

Once proud...
 
I've never been a member of the GOP, and never will be. I'm more partial to the Ayn Rand Institute and the Cato Institute. In any case, while studying capitalism and defending our liberties at home is certainly admirable, you should follow foreign policy more closely before supporting such a radical view as withdrawing all troops and disbanding all bases immediately. The fact that Iran is building nuclear weapons is not contested at all, nor is the fact that they will be using them against Israel (they openly admit to both). Trusting rogue terrorist nations not to use them against the USA as well, when their ideology is diametrically opposed to ours and they take every opportunity to display their sheer hatred for us, and openly broadcast that they do seek world domination (something which is thoroughly expressed in the holy texts they're willing to die for), is very naive.

Educate yourselves:
Middle East Forum
Frontpage Magazine
Jihad Watch
Daniel Pipes website

I'm not going to press this as it's off-topic in this thread, and as its hopeless to reach through to most of the people who frequent this forum when it comes to Islamofascism, but I needed to express my opinion. Its not islamophobia when they *are* trying to kill you.

If Israelis wanted to be safe maybe they shouldn't have stolen other people's land. Go home, neocon troll. You are an ignorant piece of shit. Neocon fascism is not tolerated round these parts. This is Ron Paul country, moron. You cannot defend our liberty here taking their liberty there. Move to Iran and get into politics there if you are so fucking concerned with their energy and military policy. Israel has repeatedly said it will attack Iran, we have said we will attack Iran, we are instituting embargoes. If they had a fucking nuke we would not be bothering them. So they want a nuke. Go figure.
 
this thread needs to die - we're in the middle of an economic crisis, and folks want to try and argue for further interventionist foreign policy, and status quo election voting?

Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
 
Obama?

God bless America.
Yea... we must be voting for Obama!

Do you even know what forum you are on? Because this "woes is me!" routine seems pretty out of place. Theres very few people here who would vote for either of the two candidates, you probably know this, yet it doesn't seem to stop you from going into your "its a mad house!!!" routine whenever one of them makes a rare appearance.
 
Yea... we must be voting for Obama!

Do you even know what forum you are on? Because this "woes is me!" routine seems pretty out of place. Theres very few people here who would vote for either of the two candidates, you probably know this, yet it doesn't seem to stop you from going into your "its a mad house!!!" routine whenever one of them makes a rare appearance.

Pay careful attention to the media and eat a cheeseburger.

Wouldn't want to mess with your mind!
 
Obama?

God bless America.

Makes no difference McCain-Obama.

Addicts typically need to hit rock bottom before realizing their need to get off their addiction.

In the case of America, limitless risk free credit is the addiction, and the continued neo-liberalism will get us to rock bottom. Without folks waking up beforehand (my prayer), McCain or Obama will get us there.

For most of us RP Republicans, though, we will not vote for a neo-liberal, so it's no McCain or Obama. If Obama wins, so be it.

Bob Barr for me this year.

I'll like the way this threadjacking is going, btw.
 
Sarah Palin is not a libertarian of any kind. She is a neocon monster just like McCain.

She has not stood up against the war on drugs.
She has not stood up against the war in Iraq.
She has not stood up against the FED.
She has not stood up against victimless crimes.
She has not stood up against the IRS.
She has not stood up against the Patriot Act.
She has not stood up against the war on terror.

She has increased the size, cost, and scope of the Alaskan government.
She has signed the bill to get the "Real ID" implemented in Alaska.
She has stated that the War in Iraq is a task from God.

Sarah Palin is neo-con scum.

I'm ashamed of the many people on this forum who have been brainwashed into believing that she is some sort of libertarian.
 
Makes no difference McCain-Obama.

Addicts typically need to hit rock bottom before realizing their need to get off their addiction.

In the case of America, limitless risk free credit is the addiction, and the continued neo-liberalism will get us to rock bottom. Without folks waking up beforehand (my prayer), McCain or Obama will get us there.

For most of us RP Republicans, though, we will not vote for a neo-liberal, so it's no McCain or Obama. If Obama wins, so be it.

Bob Barr for me this year.

I'll like the way this threadjacking is going, btw.

Yeah,

But...

Due to apathy. You guys let the government and the greedy fucks put you over a barrell.

Blame yourselves.

Or demand retribution.
 
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