Santorum Wins Iowa by 34 Votes

[Student Of Paulism]

Honest mistake or was the fix in for the establishment pick, Romney?

We know the media was in for Santorum to make sure Paul got knocked out of the top spot which he was in.

No doubt about it. That media of humping of Santorum took votes away from Paul, and it was proven the demographics of the 2nd to last polls by PPP and a couple others when compared to their final polls, where Ron lost a good 7-8% of his 18-29 range and 30-49 range. Most of them went to Santorum, and some of Bachmann's support went to him too. All the newsletter crap and other lame smears were also going around at the time as well. If none of this happened, Ron finishes ahead of Mitt easily, and Santorum never would have had more than 15-17% of the vote.

 

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[SilentBull]

This will make Santorum get third in SC, and the media knows it.

 

[Student Of Paulism]

I hope a real investigation is done. Seems that a Paul supporter was the first to bring this to light when his precinct showed Romney as 22 when there had only been 2. I want to know when the other 20 votes were added; was it when they phoned it in? was it by who entered the numbers? was it sometime later? who? what? when? where? and why?


The most important part of this story has not even come out yet........ I honestly feel that the GOP may be forced to force IGOP to no longer be first after this. This could become a HUGE impact as 2016 comes into play.

Here is all you need to know, Bev Harris explained IA and also talks about the upcoming SC primary. She explained what happened with the '22' vote debacle. Still, it should have NEVER happened and still leaves qns to be answered:

 

[MMXII]

TOTALS
Rick Santorum: 29,839
Mitt Romney: 29,805
Ron Paul: 26,036
Newt Gingrich: 16,163
Rick Perry: 12,557
Michele Bachmann: 6,046
Jon Huntsman: 739
Others: No preference, 147; Herman Cain, 45; Sarah Palin, 23; Buddy Roemer, 17; Fred Karger, 10; Gary Johnson, 8; Donald Trump, 5; Paul Ryan, 3; Condoleeza Rice, 2; Roy Moore, 2; Ben Lange, 2; Mike Huckabee, 2; Rudy Giuliani, 2; Tim Pawlenty, 2; Scott Walker, 1; John McCain, 1; Ralph Nader, 1; Pat Buchanan, 1; Robert D. Ray, 1; Jared Blankenship, 1.

There really is NOT much difference here between the top 3 vote getters.
The Message is working, even though the msm ran "the newsletters" hack job non stop.

WINNING.

 

[Kords21]

This will make Santorum get third in SC, and the media knows it.

I wouldn't be surprised if got second. Depending on Newt's bombshell he might even have a shot at first

 

[Dary]

What will really be funny is Iowa announcing at the convention a win for Paul. Their gonna hafta 'splain themselves all over again.

 

[goldpants]

They did not under poll us in NH. Polling was pretty accurate. The Huntsman surge attempt by the media fizzled.

I disagree, Huntsman's numbers were inflated to persuade voters to make their desires a reality. Same as Santorum in Iowa, only they succeeded far better there.

 

[goldpants]

The cynic in me says they know Newt is about to plummet in the polls and this is a way to surge frothy to take second over Paul.

Seems sadly logical

 

[Student Of Paulism]

I disagree, Huntsman's numbers were inflated to persuade voters to make their desires a reality. Same as Santorum in Iowa, only they succeeded far better there.

Yea, the thing is, Romney had a sure fire win in NH. No one was going to beat him based on all the polls. The GOP and MSM are only going to pull stunts when they know Ron has a chance of winning the state, otherwise, they will just ignore/marginalize him and give him whatever his percentage is. They wont bother taking risks if there is no need to based on what polls show and what public opinion is. But at anytime he is in a close second place, in ANY state, you can bet they are going to pull something, whether it be fraud, other candidate leg humping crap, smear tactics, etc.

MSM could have gotten Huntsman much higher if there had been more time in NH. Hell, they got him to 17% from like 11 in just a week or so

 

[angelatc]

They interviewed the guy who reported the inaccuracy to the officials last night, and he's a Ron Paul supporter who was there specifically to watch the vote.

 

[wgadget]

The media DID screw Ron in NH with their YouTube "ad" lies.

 

[unknown]

I want to know Ron Paul's new numbers.

He won.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

Just worked out the new numbers. Everyone went down in total votes. Romney went down the most:

So Ron got 22.6% instead of... what?

 

[The_Ruffneck]

what if this was just to propell Santorum that extra 3-4% that he will need to go to 3rd in front of RP in SC??
I don't put anything past these creeps.

 

[Mark37snj]

They just said on Faux that 8 precincts votes just disapeared and may never be found. What an absolute disgrace!

 

[Student Of Paulism]

They just said on Faux that 8 precincts votes just disapeared and may never be found. What an absolute disgrace!

What do you mean by that? 8 TOTAL PRECINCTS? Or just 8 people's votes? If it's the former, that's uhhh...pretty f'ing terrible i'd have to say.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

The next question (which won't be answered this year): Will Iowa still be "first in the Nation" in 2016 or will the GOP be foreced to have them change it?

 

[Freedom Patriot]

They just said on Faux that 8 precincts votes just disapeared and may never be found. What an absolute disgrace!

So how many votes disappeared? approximately? 800 votes?

 

[Bruno]

What do you mean by that? 8 TOTAL PRECINCTS? Or just 8 people's votes? If it's the former, that's uhhh...pretty f'ing terrible i'd have to say.

8 total precincts ans the votes from those precincts. The current vote totals show Santorum won, but because those other votes are missing, the real totals will never be known.