Rick Santorum Santorum likes Catholicism, just not on foreign policy

[agaiziunas]

Santorum loves Catholicism... just not on foreign policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/​wiki/Just_war_theory

(paragraph 2309 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church)



All his war mongering and talk of taking action against Iran... well it completely flies in the face of his faith and the Pope would condemn Santorum's actions.

For a man so rooted in his faith and trying to tell everyone how it will guide his principles and actions, he sure takes a big chunk of his faith and throws it in the garbage for his warhawk stances.

 

[RJB]

He's after evangelical votes.

If the Wiccan religion suddenly became the most popular religion of the land, this politician would have an instant conversion.

 

[A. Havnes]

He's after evangelical votes.

If the Wiccan religion suddenly became the most popular religion of the land, this politician would have an instant conversion.

Well said. Santorum panders for votes, which is a whole lot different than earning them.

 

[specsaregood]

Torture as well.

 

[agaiziunas]

Faith, Family, Values.

Faith: Santorum ignores it when it comes to foreign policy
Family: Santorum ignores it when it's HIS wife who needs the abortion
Values: Santorum ignores them when in power and gets named one of the most corrupt politicians

Santorum should re-write his slogan.

 

[JuicyG]

Catholic church is nothing but a leech, taking government money all over the world which goes against Paul`s ideas. They haven`t shied away from war in the past. However, John Paul 2nd was very anti-war as he was himself a prisoner of war and knew what war meant.

That being said, both the old John Paul 2nd and the recent pope are very pro peace apparently. John Paul the second even has a famous book in which he explains his role in persuading Gorbachev to bring down the iron curtain. It is believed that John Paul the second managed to turn Gorbachev from an atheist to an undercover christian, which might have been one of the reasons behind Gorbachev`s more decentralized and libertarian policies.

I was raised in a catholic family, my grandparents being very religious, followed and read everything that came from Vatican, pope`s speeches, his books. The peace rhetoric was very strong.
However, there are the crusader types who think we`re in an all out religious war and I`m afraid Santorum falls into this category. He`s delusional into thinking he`s doing God`s work by taking out a rival religion.
The muslim fear is very engrained in the European culture. The Roman Empire or Catholic church in other words, waged wars throughout its history against the Ottoman empire. This is why Gingrich is also very obsessed with muslims. The Eastern roman empire fell with the famous downfall of Constantinopole, be taken over by the muslim turks, basically the heart of the church was lost and only their western brothers from Rome survived this religious war.
Catholics have never forgotten this and they are scared of a repeat. This is the reason that basically drives it.

Iran does sponsor muslims across the globe such as Bosnian muslims during Yugoslavian war for example but taking the militaristic approach is not the answer. These ideological wars can only be won culturally not otherwise.

 

[FreeEnglishman]

Catholic church is nothing but a leech

Nothing but a leech? Really? There may be countries where the Church has been too willing to provide services for tax money, but calling it "nothing but a leech" is ridiculous and offensive. You'd never have found such ignorant words on the lips of Murray Rothbard:

We may sum up the Case for Catholicism as follows: (1) Smith’s laissez-faire and natural law views descended from the late Scholastics, and from the Catholic Physiocrats; (2) the Catholics had developed marginal utility, subjective value economics, and the idea that the just price was the market price, while the British Protestants grafted on a dangerous and ultimately highly statist labor theory of value, influenced by Calvinism; (3) some of the most "dogmatic" laissez-faire theorists have been Catholics: from the Physiocrats to Bastiat; (4) capitalism began in the Catholic Italian cities of the 14th century; (5) Natural rights and other rationalist views descended from the Scholastics.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard56.html

Bonus points if you buy and read Tom Woods' (yes, that Tom Woods) How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization.

 

[eduardo89]

Really the Catholic Church is nothing but a leech? Tell that to the tens of millions of people who receive free care ad food from the thousands of catholic hospitals as charities around the world. The Catholic Church, despite all it's bad actions throughout the ages which I do not condone or defend, has probably done more charity than any other organization in the history of the world.

 

[JuicyG]

Nothing but a leech? Really? There may be countries where the Church has been too willing to provide services for tax money, but calling it "nothing but a leech" is ridiculous and offensive. You'd never have found such ignorant words on the lips of Murray Rothbard:



Bonus points if you buy and read Tom Woods' (yes, that Tom Woods) How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization.

I don`t mean offering services for money. I mean getting subsidies from taxpayer money at state level. They get big fat chunks of such contributions from many governments in order to support themselves.

This idea that saving money, hard work, basis of capitalism is found in catholic church due to an important focus on abstinence... I just don`t buy it. I think church took human progress back few thousand years. Catholic church is directly responsible for the dark ages, around 1500 years of lost human evolution. Only the renaissance brought back the philosophers and sciences of ancient Greece and rekindled the European culture.

I think Ancient Greeks(along with their art and philosophy) were the foundation of Western Civilization not the Catholic church which is responsible for burning of books and people who thought and acted differently. It was nothing but a severe blow to the human spirit. Believe me when I say that Greeks and Romans were very capitalist long before Christianity was adopted as the official religion in the Roman Empire.

 

[JuicyG]

Really the Catholic Church is nothing but a leech? Tell that to the tens of millions of people who receive free care ad food from the thousands of catholic hospitals as charities around the world. The Catholic Church, despite all it's bad actions throughout the ages which I do not condone or defend, has probably done more charity than any other organization in the history of the world.

There`s no such thing as a free dinner. Catholic church offers "free" services in order to get lifetime membership which is very lucrative business actually. These new converts will pump money into the church for a lifetime and also act themselves as recruiters, very similar to multilevel marketing schemes found in Avon or Amway.
Monasteries are also very lucrative businesses because they take the "earthly possessions" of poor suckers who seek redemption and provide them with food and shelter in exchange, not to mention monks and nuns work for free to indoctrinate new recruits in catholic schools. Some companies do this as normal business, provide food and shelter for old people in exchange for their houses or apartments.

To sum it up, people take free stuff from them and in exchange they only give their mind and soul.

 

[JuicyG]

Likely reason as to why FoxNews master Rupert is rooting for Santorum and Gingrich http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...ghthood-questioned-as-investigation-continues.