Sanford Candidate Nikki Haley for SC Governorin 2010

[go_carolina_528]

I was referring to the topic of my initial interaction, not the topic of the thread. While I hate the idea of going off topic in general, I want to use this opportunity to challenge the opt-recited but misinformed belief that Mark Sanford's attendance at a Bilderberg meeting somehow disqualifies him as a liberty candidate.

Its fine. I'm a huge Sanford supporter and would love for you to take this guy on.

I just wanna start talking about Nikki again at some point.

 

[Elwar]

Does she support pre-emptively using an EMP against North Korea?

 

[Nathan Hale]

Does she support pre-emptively using an EMP against North Korea?

If I'm not mistaken it looks like North Korea was EMPed years ago.

NOTE: Just kidding, North Korea just looks EMPed becauuse it has little electrical capacity.

 

[JoshLowry]

If I'm not mistaken it looks like North Korea was EMPed years ago.

NOTE: Just kidding, North Korea just looks EMPed becauuse it has little electrical capacity.

He's refering to Sanford's vocal support in pre-emptive war.

NK wanted to test a missile and Sanford didn't seem to think they were a sovereign country. He suggested attacking them for simply testing their own defense systems.

 

[Nathan Hale]

He's refering to Sanford's vocal support in pre-emptive war.

NK wanted to test a missile and Sanford didn't seem to think they were a sovereign country. He suggested attacking them for simply testing their own defense systems.

Was he referring to a suggestion by Sanford that we use an EMP? Or a suggestion by Sanford that we otherwise attack? Please cite a reference, so we can have a conversation based on the facts of the case.

 

[Njon]

I was referring to the topic of my initial interaction, not the topic of the thread. While I hate the idea of going off topic in general, I want to use this opportunity to challenge the opt-recited but misinformed belief that Mark Sanford's attendance at a Bilderberg meeting somehow disqualifies him as a liberty candidate.

Bilderberg is a globalist organization that plans policy behind closed doors and undermines national sovereignty. It promotes centralization and increased global control. It's difficult to believe that someone could attend their meetings and walk out of there not knowing what it's all about.

Also: a post at http://www.dailypaul.com/node/88995 discusses Gov. Sanford's apparent endorsement of former Speaker Newt Gingrich's foreign policy. The video clip linked in that post in which Sanford talks about foreign policy (with Gingrich at his side) has since been removed.

 

[JoshLowry]

Was he referring to a suggestion by Sanford that we use an EMP? Or a suggestion by Sanford that we otherwise attack? Please cite a reference, so we can have a conversation based on the facts of the case.

Watch the first three or four minutes.

YouTube - Newt on North Korea, the GOP and faith on FOX News Sunday

 

[Nathan Hale]

Bilderberg is a globalist organization that plans policy behind closed doors and undermines national sovereignty. It promotes centralization and increased global control. It's difficult to believe that someone could attend their meetings and walk out of there not knowing what it's all about.

This doesn't matter. If Bilderberg sent me an invite, I'd be there. Which of us would be stupid enough NOT to go? And perhaps we'd go and find out, as Sanford likely did, that Bilderberg isn't actually as nefarious as your hypothesis makes it out to be.

Also: a post at http://www.dailypaul.com/node/88995 discusses Gov. Sanford's apparent endorsement of former Speaker Newt Gingrich's foreign policy. The video clip linked in that post in which Sanford talks about foreign policy (with Gingrich at his side) has since been removed.

This is immaterial to the debate at hand. I don't recall endorsing Sanford in this thread. I'm here to talk strictly about the relevance of his Bilderberg attendance.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Watch the first three or four minutes.

YouTube - Newt on North Korea, the GOP and faith on FOX News Sunday

There's no need. I'm not a Mark Sanford cheerleader. My opinion in this thread is related to his guilt by association to Bilderberg.

 

[scandinaviany3]

?emp

Watch the first three or four minutes.

YouTube - Newt on North Korea, the GOP and faith on FOX News Sunday

I didnt hear any talk on emp use by sanford. The emp referrence by gingirch to emp attacks on us and how that would effect the grid. Well known fear put on the public.

There is talk on taking out the missile..but no shock to do that given the missile is traveling into japanese air space which we are partnering to protect by Treaty

North Korea is no Iraq/Afghanistan...very, very different situation.

If only the credibility of the govt with iraq and afghanistan wouldnt have been squandered then this could be handle correctly...i doubt it will...but just want to correct the words that emp is about the effect on us...not saying we attack via emp, doubt that is effective anyway given design of the rockets to protect from this.

 

[RCA]

First thing she needs to do is fix her website. Her first name is illegible even after I found out how to spell her name.

 

[james1906]

First thing she needs to do is fix her website. Her first name is illegible even after I found out how to spell her name.

Nikki Haley sounds (and looks) like a porn star name.

 

[JoshLowry]

I didnt hear any talk on emp use by sanford. The emp referrence by gingirch to emp attacks on us and how that would effect the grid. Well known fear put on the public.

There is talk on taking out the missile..but no shock to do that given the missile is traveling into japanese air space which we are partnering to protect by Treaty

North Korea is no Iraq/Afghanistan...very, very different situation.

If only the credibility of the govt with iraq and afghanistan wouldnt have been squandered then this could be handle correctly...i doubt it will...but just want to correct the words that emp is about the effect on us...not saying we attack via emp, doubt that is effective anyway given design of the rockets to protect from this.

I never said anything about an EMP, someone else just decided that's what he said without knowing what I was talking about.



He does talk about supporting preemptive war when other sovereign countries test out their military equipment.

That's shitty foreign policy for the USA.

 

[Nathan Hale]

He does talk about supporting preemptive war when other sovereign countries test out their military equipment.

That's shitty foreign policy for the USA.

Gingrich does, or Sanford does?

 

[JoshLowry]

Gingrich does, or Sanford does?

Are you really not going to watch the video that I provided you with after you asked for it?



Sanford does.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Are you really not going to watch the video that I provided you with after you asked for it?



Sanford does.

You're right, I'm not. I realized after I posted my off-topic post that I was veering from my course here. Im not here to debate Sanford's viability as a candidate in general, but thank you for taking the time to post it. I'm here to address specifically the idea that Sanford's attendance at Bilderberg is somehow anathema.

 

[scandinaviany3]

we are talking about north korea right?

I never said anything about an EMP, someone else just decided that's what he said without knowing what I was talking about.



He does talk about supporting preemptive war when other sovereign countries test out their military equipment.

That's shitty foreign policy for the USA.

In general as i said this is north korea...shooting missiles over foreign countries

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-05-voa2.cfm


is a std act of war and major no..no..one should expect them to be shot down...no questions asked by the rest of the world and japans allies. That is a best case ...we are very ,very lucky things didnt already go crazy

But in general God help us all with all of these crazies...

 

[Njon]

This doesn't matter. If Bilderberg sent me an invite, I'd be there. Which of us would be stupid enough NOT to go?

Obviously Bilderberg would not invite any of us, so that's a moot point. They only invite people with a lot of influence who they think will go along with their plans. And if Gov. Sanford did not agree with the Bilderberg globalist agenda, why didn't he just say that, instead of making it sound like Bilderberg is no big deal?

For example, I recall listening to an interview not long ago --- I think it was Jim Tucker on Alex Jones' show --- and it was pointed out that Margaret Thatcher once did just that; she recognized the problems with Bilderberg, and she got out of there.

Jim took me to the Men's Bar upstairs. We drank beers and watched sport on the TV above the bar. Framed front pages of big news stories of days gone by lined the walls. "War in the Persian Gulf!" "Thatcher Resigns!" Jim said that both acts were orchestrated by Bilderberg. "Margaret Thatcher is one of the good guys," said Jim. "Bilderberg ordered her to dismantle British sovereignty, but she said no way, so they had her sacked."
Big Jim said he once found himself at a drinks party with Thatcher and he took the opportunity to sidle up to her. "How does it feel to have been denounced by those Bilderberg boys, ma'am?" he growled. She whispered back that she considered it a "great tribute to be denounced by Bilderberg".

The above was taken from http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/mar/10/features.weekend
See quote header for citation.

And perhaps we'd go and find out, as Sanford likely did, that Bilderberg isn't actually as nefarious as your hypothesis makes it out to be.

That's simply speculation, whereas there is plenty of evidence that the Bilderberg agenda is globalist. Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, perhaps you should consider the kind of information that comes from his contacts who track Bilderberg (like Tucker).

 

[Nathan Hale]

Obviously Bilderberg would not invite any of us, so that's a moot point. They only invite people with a lot of influence who they think will go along with their plans.

I doubt you know the criteria behind Bilderberg invitations.

And if Gov. Sanford did not agree with the Bilderberg globalist agenda, why didn't he just say that, instead of making it sound like Bilderberg is no big deal?

Because maybe, just maybe, Bilderberg is no big deal.

For example, I recall listening to an interview not long ago --- I think it was Jim Tucker on Alex Jones' show --- and it was pointed out that Margaret Thatcher once did just that; she recognized the problems with Bilderberg, and she got out of there.

According to the word of Jim Tucker, Thatcher only abandoned Bilderberg because Tucker claims that "they" were trying to pressure her into dismantling the British monarchy.

That's simply speculation,

ALL of this is speculation.

whereas there is plenty of evidence that the Bilderberg agenda is globalist.

I'd love to see it. Could you please link to a plurality accepted/accedited source that shows the Bilderberg agenda to be globalist?

Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, perhaps you should consider the kind of information that comes from his contacts who track Bilderberg (like Tucker).

I do consider that information, and I acknowledge that his contacts are driven by their biases as well. I'm not here to decry attempts to paint Bilderberg in a bad light, it could very well be an evil organization with designs on world takeover, but it's premature to slam some guy for attending, especially considering how little we know of the organization.

 

[go_carolina_528]

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - The 2010 race for governor more than a year away, but candidates already raising the money to run.

State Sen. Vincent Sheheen says he's already raised more than $500,000 for his gubernatorial campaign.

Sheheen says he's encouraged by the contributions.

"As I have traveled our state in recent months talking to our citizens, I have become excited by how many share the vision of a South Carolina with the best public schools, a thriving economy, and a state government that works for all its citizens."

State Rep. Nikki Haley says she's seen no substantial effect in fundraising for GOP governors race from the scandal surrounding Gov. Mark Sanford.

Haley said Thursday she'll report raising more than $211,000 in her first campaign finance report to win the 2010 nomination to replace term-limited Sanford. The governor has been a key ally of for Haley as he pushes what she calls a reform agenda in the Legislature.

Haley announced for governor on May 14. That's more than a month before Sanford disappeared for nearly a week before re-emerging to confess an affair with a woman in Argentina.

Haley removed Sanford's picture from her campaign Web site. She said that would have happened anyway because she didn't want Sanford to have that much prominence on the site.

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10671045

A great fundraising start to her campaign. Raised about 211,000 in 5 weeks while Sheheen was the first candidate to announce and his 500,000 is from 2 quarters worth of fundraising.