Sandy Hook Families are Now After Alex Jones Social Media Accounts

How many months did Jones BS about nobody dying in Sandy Hook?

From what I recall, he spent several weeks barely mentioning the story, saying the left was using it to take away our guns.

The majority of his audience were all watching dozens youtube videos, some with millions of views about how it was all a big conspiracy.

They were getting mad at Alex Jones for not talking about the incident in more detail, saying that he was a "government shill" and threatening to stop watching the show.

So Alex had a couple interviews, one with a coroner, and one with an attorney. He found out one of them lied to him, so he decided to stop covering it.

So I would say a week or two, max.

We would have known all of this had the case gone to trial and Alex Jones been able to defend himself, but the Judge hit him with the BS default judgement so we didn't get to hear both sides of the story.
 
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From what I recall, he spent several weeks barely mentioning the story, saying the left was using it to take away our guns.

The majority of his audience were all watching dozens youtube videos, some with millions of views about how it was all a big conspiracy.

They were getting mad at Alex Jones for not talking about the incident in more detail, saying that he was a "government shill" and threatening to stop watching the show.

So Alex had a couple interviews, one with a coroner, and one with an attorney. He found out one of them lied to him, so he decided to stop covering it.

So I would say a week or two, max.

We would have known all of this had the case gone to trial and Alex Jones been able to defend himself, but the Judge hit him with the BS default judgement so we didn't get to hear both sides of the story.

Unfortunately it does seem that these "Sandy Hook Families" appear to be looking government sponsors by targeting anyone having public pinions on Sandy Hook.

The fear there if these Sandy Hook families get away with this.

They will go after those questioning 9/11.
 
Who said there was? :confused:

Such statements do nothing to substantively rebut the claim that "they won't stop until Jones' 1st Amendment rights are taken away".

On the contrary, the fact that they are seeking to seize Jones' social media accounts - despite and in addition to the fact that Jones has already been adjudicated liable for defamation (and egregiously so, at that) - indicates that they indeed "won't stop won't stop until Jones' 1st Amendment rights are taken away".

That the article referenced in the OP explicitly states that "the families on Wednesday asked a U.S. bankruptcy judge in Houston, Texas, to additionally take control of Jones' X.com account and prevent Jones from using it to promote new business ventures" (bold emphasis added) only serves to reinforce that indication (especially given that Jones is unlikely ever to discharge even a significant fraction of his adjudicated liability if his ability to "promote new business ventures" is impaired).

"The families"...yeah right...

The feds and the lawyers said.
 
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I doubt Jones only lied about Sandy Hook families death being fake a few times

Clown was a month long pied piper of rabid foam leading fools into a lather for Jan 6th
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

You left out Fauci saying we needed to shut down parks and beaches to stop COVID when exercising in the fresh air and sunlight is one of the best ways to fight respiratory disease (all disease actually) and Fauci declaring the jab safe and effective. But....yeah.
 
The More i hear of these Sandy Hook families and how they are trying to tore down Alex Jones.
Not just bringing down Alex Jones InfoWar Website but now they after his Social Media forbidding him from having a voice online?

The more the families would look suspicious.

Why are they trying to cesnor Alex Jones?

A push by the elites because InfoWars exposed bohemian grove on the inside?

Sandy Hook families want to seize Alex Jones' social media accounts

https://x.com/Timcast/status/1801389599564173435

They shouldn't even be able to seize Infowars.com under the auspices of trying to satisfy a judgment. It's not like any of this is worth anything without Alex Jones. This would be like winning a lawsuit against a doctor and trying to seize his medical degree to satisfy the judgment.
 
Where does it say that?

It says "Congress shall make no law".

It says that Congress shall make no law abridging the "freedom of speech". That phrase doesn't include the right to defame, unless you think that the drafters of the First Amendment intended to do away with the law of defamation, something that had existed in English law for centuries.

It's one thing to say that the Amendment protects speech that makes false claims about the actions of public officials but that aren't made with "actual malice" (see New York Times v. Sulliivan). It's an entirely different matter where a private citizen is defamed about a matter having nothing to do with the government.
 
the fact that Jones has already been adjudicated liable for defamation (and egregiously so, at that)

The default judgments on liability rendered in Texas and Connecticut resulted from Jones's willfully disobeying court orders, so any egregiousness regarding a finding of liability is entirely his own doing.

The plaintiffs have every right to attempt to recover damages from Jones, and given that judgments for willful and malicious conduct aren't dischargeable in bankruptcy they will have the right to do so even after his bankruptcy proceedings are concluded.
 
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Well, that's the disconnect, isn't it? Does a lack of hard proof really compel citizens to embrace naivete?

You know, I almost added a postscript saying that this distinction wouldn't satisfy the conspiracy theorists who are convinced beyond doubt that the entire shooting was a ruse and a government plot. I guess I underestimated the extent to which this imbecilic idea has spread.
 
the fact that Jones has already been adjudicated liable for defamation (and egregiously so, at that)

The default judgments on liability rendered in Texas and Connecticut resulted from Jones's willfully disobeying court orders, so any egregiousness regarding a finding of liability is entirely his own doing.

Jones' willful disobedience of court orders may justify the making of a default judgement against him, but it doesn't justify the egregious degree of the damages awarded after that default judgement was rendered (especially if they end up including Jones' social media accounts - see below). And in any case, whatever the degree of damages (whether egregious or not), they are supposed to represent liability incurred for defamation, not liability incurred for disobeying the court (which liability was already accounted for in the making of the default adverse judgement). So, no - any egregiousness of the awarded damages is not warranted by Jones' disobedience, the proper remedy for which, depending on the kind and manner of disobedience, is something along the lines of "contempt of court" or, in the limit, adverse judgement by default (which is what happened in this case).

The plaintiffs have every right to attempt to recover damages from Jones, and given that judgments for willful and malicious conduct aren't dischargeable in bankruptcy they will have the right to do so even after his bankruptcy proceedings are concluded.

If they are so concerned about recovering damages from Jones, then why are they trying to deprive Jones of his ability to "promote new business ventures"? It makes absolutely no sense to seek to recover damages by imposing conditions that are explicitly specified to be for the purpose of delimiting Jones' ability to exercise a means of earning the resources required to be able to pay those damages. Pray tell, how does deliberately impairing Jones' ability to "promote new business ventures" redound to the benefit of the plaintiffs or of their chances of recovering damages?

And of what possible value are Jones' social media accounts, anyway, if they are no longer owned or controlled by Jones? I wouldn't be surprised if just the mundane and routine legal costs involved in depriving Jones of ownership and transferring it to someone else are more than the accounts are even worth without Jones behind them. Such a process appears to be aimed, not at compensating the plaintiffs for damages, but at applying a surreptitious kind of "prior restraint" by impeding or preventing the defendant's ability to publish anything at all (including things having nothing at all to do with the original defamation). It's like suing an old-fashioned newspaper for defamation, and then, after winning the suit, demanding that ownership of the newspaper be granted to the plaintiffs (or the state) in order to "deplatform" the publisher. But at least in the case of an old-fashioned newspaper, the physical plant of the newspaper would at least continue to be worth something significant even if ownership was seized and transferred. That is not the case for Jones' social media accounts, the seizure of which seems to be motivated by the desire to punitively silence him, and little or nothing more (it certainly won't serve to help make the plaintiffs whole in any significant way).

And what is to happen if, after seizing Jones' social media accounts, Jones simply creates new ones (which will, of course, end up being more valuable than the seized ones, by virtue of the fact that they will be Jones')? Are such new accounts then to be seized as well, under the same justifications? If not, then what is the point of having seized his previous accounts (which would now be of little if any value)? If so (which seems must be the case, if the justifications for the previous seizures are to be accepted), then how would that not dovetail perfectly with the claim that "[t]hey won't stop until Jones' 1st Amendment rights are taken away" (your reply to which is still a non sequitur), whether one actually believes that claim or not? Jones being held liable for defamation does not in any way obviate (and is not mutually exclusive of) a deliberate attempt to exploit that holding of liability as a means of squelching Jones (especially given the feds' self-admitted proclivity for "nudging" things in the direction they desire).
 
The default judgments on liability rendered in Texas and Connecticut resulted from Jones's willfully disobeying court orders, so any egregiousness regarding a finding of liability is entirely his own doing.

The plaintiffs have every right to attempt to recover damages from Jones, and given that judgments for willful and malicious conduct aren't dischargeable in bankruptcy they will have the right to do so even after his bankruptcy proceedings are concluded.

So....how exactly do they plan to make money off of his social media accounts? You're not making a LICK of sense.
 
It's one thing to say that the Amendment protects speech that makes false claims about the actions of public officials but that aren't made with "actual malice" (see New York Times v. Sulliivan). It's an entirely different matter where a private citizen is defamed about a matter having nothing to do with the government.

But this has everything to do with the government.

The same families suing are the same families that became mouthpieces for gun control, possibly the most hotly contested "political" argument there is.
 
And in any case, whatever the degree of damages (whether egregious or not), they are supposed to represent liability incurred for defamation

A large chunk of the damages awarded in both the Texas and Connecticut cases were punitive damages, not compensatory damages. Punitive damages are intended to punish the tortfeasor for egregious and malicious conduct and to serve as a deterrent to others. Once again, they can be traced to Jones's own egregious conduct.
 
So... As far as you're concerned, that's a yes?

A yes regarding what? You seem to be suggesting that one shouldn't be naive enough to believe the government wasn't involved, even though there's no proof that it was. Why in the world should anyone believe such a narrative?
 
But this has everything to do with the government.

The same families suing are the same families that became mouthpieces for gun control, possibly the most hotly contested "political" argument there is.

Jones's lies about the families' being "crisis actors" and that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation had nothing to do with the government.
 
A yes regarding what? You seem to be suggesting that one shouldn't be naive enough to believe the government wasn't involved, even though there's no proof that it was. Why in the world should anyone believe such a narrative?

Jones's lies about the families' being "crisis actors" and that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation had nothing to do with the government.

Your logic certainly does go full circle...
 
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