Sandra Fluke Attacks Rand Paul On Education

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/opinion/fluke-women-rights/

Republican Sen. Rand Paul said recently, look at how well women are doing at colleges across the country. What he failed to consider is that women are graduating not only with a degree, but with staggering level of student debt. Instead of telling women that they're doing just fine, we need legislators who are going to fight for students so they can attain the degrees they want and enter chosen professions without an insurmountable amount of debt.

Senator Paul also forgot to mention that some of the best-paying jobs, jobs in science, technology, engineering and math fields (STEM), are still overwhelming dominated by men. Only 3% of tech startups are formed by women. We have a thriving tech industry, but men hold far more computer and mathematical occupations than women.

Why aren't more women getting tech jobs? We need programs that promote STEM education for those who have historically been left out of these high-paying jobs.

 

[William Tell]

Make that lady go away...

 

[Natural Citizen]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/opinion/fluke-women-rights/

Rand would do well to not go here. He's easily destroyed given his position on immigration and recent alignment with some companies who would lobby for these STEM careers to be filled by those who benefit from the H1-B. This is a disservice to American youth and education to prepare them for these careers in whole. Not male versus female. That's a political argument. A social one at that.

These schools like MIT basically run flunkout programs as it is in order to conform to the H1-B program that would provide the means for foreign students instead of American students.

 

[CPUd]

Senator Paul also forgot to mention that some of the best-paying jobs, jobs in science, technology, engineering and math fields (STEM), are still overwhelming dominated by men. Only 3% of tech startups are formed by women. We have a thriving tech industry, but men hold far more computer and mathematical occupations than women.

I can tell you, from someone who has seen class sizes of 50-75 with nothing but other stinking-ass dudes, we have no problem with more women entering into this field.

 

[Cleaner44]

What this woman failed to consider is that women may not want to go into every field that men do. I wonder if the mid-wife industry is dominated by females.

She also forgot to mention that tech startups are formed by whoever want to start such a company up and nothing is preventing a woman from starting a tech company other than her choice. Women should not be forced to start up companies in the tech industry just to satisfy this wench's desire for statistics.

 

[jkr]

maybe in the next life...
...none of this will be

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

What this woman failed to consider is that women may not want to go into every field that men do. I wonder if the mid-wife industry is dominated by females.

She also forgot to mention that tech startups are formed by whoever want to start such a company up and nothing is preventing a woman from starting a tech company other than her choice. Women should not be forced to start up companies in the tech industry just to satisfy this wench's desire for statistics.

Her reply:
sexism.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Only 3% of tech startups are formed by women.

What percentage of elementary school teachers are female? Why does no one write a concerned article asking "where are all the men in teaching our youngest in society"?

 

[milgram]

Sandra Fluke who majored in "Feminist, Gender & Sexuality Studies" sees a problem that some women graduate college with a mountain of debt and no job prospects. Seems like she should have done her part by warning everyone in her department about the severe downsides of obtaining a worthless degree.

What percentage of elementary school teachers are female?

How about the lack of female sanitation workers? No Obamaton seems to write desperate editorials about closing the gender gap for sh!tty blue collar jobs.

 

[mad cow]

I can tell you, from someone who has seen class sizes of 50-75 with nothing but other stinking-ass dudes, we have no problem with more women entering into this field.

I can tell you after a lifetime in manual labor that they are woefully underrepresented in that field too.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

Pretty good article detailing wage disparities between men and women.

 

[Henry Rogue]

Sandra Fluke Attacks Rand Paul On Education

Fluke her.

 

[jtstellar]

look how many women are in alternative health science and free energy research.. the true cutting edge of today, that would tell you all you need to know. college excels at yesterday's scientism.

 

[Crashland]

What this woman failed to consider is that women may not want to go into every field that men do. I wonder if the mid-wife industry is dominated by females.

She also forgot to mention that tech startups are formed by whoever want to start such a company up and nothing is preventing a woman from starting a tech company other than her choice. Women should not be forced to start up companies in the tech industry just to satisfy this wench's desire for statistics.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

Pretty good article detailing wage disparities between men and women.

That is a good article, but controlling for college majors and women's choices, although it accounts for a good chunk of it, does not account for *all* of the wage gap. Part of it is employers projecting women's choices before they even make them because of trends, like accounting for the likelihood that a woman will require maternity leave or will be less flexible when it comes to work hours and travel requirements, even when both the woman and man may claim the same level of flexibility.

Even if the entire wage gap could be explained by controlling for women's choices, it is worth exploring the causes behind the discrepancy in womens' and mens' choices. Is it *really* all biological, or is it a cultural factor that from a very early age, girls are encouraged to act like girls and boys are encouraged to act like boys, which means that although it is still a free choice, each is more likely due to cultural pressures to become involved in fields that are already dominated by their gender?

So although I do not identify as a feminist and I disagree strongly with feminists especially when it comes to the misleading numbers and logical fallacies like the $0.77 claim, I am also sympathetic to certain other points that I do believe have some merit, particularly regarding cultural gender roles.

 

[erowe1]

Also, there are zero female football players in the NFL. Why is that? The government needs to enact legislation to change that.

 

[Legend1104]

Let's just make college education free or at least force colleges to only charge a buck fifty per class. Economics is just silly hocus pocus. We can make it cost whatever we want and the nomes will come up from the ground and rain tootsie rolls and lollipops on us to pay for it. I've got it lets just pay colleges with trident gum.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Also, there are zero female football players in the NFL. Why is that?

Well. Because they'd get run over like a freight train? Come on, e. What kind of dumb question is that?

 

[invisible]

Why aren't more women getting tech jobs? We need programs that promote STEM education for those who have historically been left out of these high-paying jobs.

Perhaps because they CHOOSE not to! This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Somehow it's Rand's fault that most women choose to major in women's studies, education, journalism, social sciences, and other liberal arts? Seriously?

 

[angelatc]

What percentage of elementary school teachers are female? Why does no one write a concerned article asking "where are all the men in teaching our youngest in society"?

Maybe you don't have kids in school, but there are lots of articles about that topic. https://www.google.com/search?q=whe...4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

 

[supermario21]

As someone who is in medical school, if you want to go into the sciences and you're female, the skies are limitless. In fact I'd argue there are MORE opportunities for women these days in the sciences than ever before, and there are tons of special programs designed to encourage women to go into the sciences, scholarships too. Sandra needs to STFU.