Sanders supporters vow to support Trump if Bernie isn’t the nominee

[Swordsmyth]

Sanders supporters vow to support Trump if Bernie isn’t the nominee

“Bernie or bust” is their rallying cry, and many supporters of socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., say they will vote for President Trump if their candidate is denied the Democratic nomination a second time.
After the 2016 election, the Cooperative Congressional Election Study found about 12% of those who voted for Sanders in the Democratic primaries voted for Trump in the general election. There are early signs that Sanders fervor is so strong that this could double in 2020, a development that could hand the White House to Trump for a second term.
An Emerson College poll this month showed 26% of those who support Sanders in the Democratic primaries and caucuses would support Trump over Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., despite their overlapping policy positions.

The Sanders-to-Trump inclination stems in part from the belief that the Democratic National Committee “cheated” Sanders in the bitter 2016 primary with the superdelegate system and Democratic staff bias in favor of eventual nominee Hillary Clinton. Concern over establishment control of the nomination process and other aspects of the campaign season persist among Sanders loyalists.
[Related: Sanders to supporters: Average donations aren't high enough]
“If they cheat again, I have told people I will vote for Trump,” Pennsylvania resident and Sanders supporter Keith Ward, 58, told the Washington Examiner. “Not because I like him, but because if this country is going down a slippery slope, they have no one to blame but themselves ... [no] matter how much damage I believe Trump is doing.”
Ward voted for Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary and for Green Party candidate Jill Stein in the general election. “I felt I had no choice,” he said, adding that he felt his 2016 vote would send a message. “I'm just not sure the [Democratic] Party heard it.”
Another Sanders supporter expressed a similar sentiment: “If the DNC screws him again, like it's already looking they will, I'll stay home on voting day. Hell, I may vote for Trump just to make sure their candidate loses.”

More at: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ck-trump-if-their-man-isnt-democratic-nominee

 

[Schifference]

I remember many liberals vowing to leave the country if Bush were elected. Then the same thing if Trump were elected. Please just pack up and go. Leave you chit for the open border immigrants to have.

 

[Schifference]

This makes total sense. Support a socialist or his nemesis.

 

[CCTelander]

I guess if they can't have the international socialist (communist) that they really want, a national socialist is the next best thing? Makes about as much sense as anything else in post Trump AmeriKa.

 

[ATruepatriot]

This makes total sense. Support a socialist or his nemesis.

Yep... Insanity. They are all compulsive liars. They are trying to ride herd over the other democrat candidates and scare them. In the end they won't vote for Trump.

 

[ProBlue33]

Actually on another forum there many ex-Bernie supporters, they were in two camps they never voted at all or voted for Trump out of pure spite.
Here is the the point, some not all have been lost for good,they went over to Trump and they have no reason to go back, the chatter is maybe for Gabbard but she is the only one they even consider going over for. If the DNC is smart their supers need to hold fire or risk alienating another huge block of voters, something tells me they won't.
Biden will get some, he has deep ties with the DNC.

 

[timosman]

How old is Bernie going to be in 2021?

 

[Anti Federalist]

LOL - No One But Sanders.

Where have I heard something like that before.

'Course, they'll have better luck with it...freedom not being popular at all anymore.

 

[oyarde]

LOL - No One But Sanders.

Where have I heard something like that before.

'Course, they'll have better luck with it...freedom not being popular at all anymore.

I think they view it as freedom for them just not you . Freedom from paying their bills . They want you to pay them instead
This is about as close to freedom a free loading sanders supporter is willing to get , freedom to have AF & Dankes monies to buy what they feel they should have . They know biden is not going to give them anything but a hard on and a smile .

 

[ATruepatriot]

I think they view it as freedom for them just not you . Freedom from paying their bills . They want you to pay them instead
This is about as close to freedom a free loading sanders supporter is willing to get , freedom to have AF & Dankes monies to buy what they feel they should have . They know biden is not going to give them anything but a hard on and a smile .

Yep... My adult children know a few Bernie supporters and they hate them, While my kids are working their asses off to get by these supporters do everything they can to get free shit.

 

[timosman]

Yep... My adult children know a few Bernie supporters and they hate them, While my kids are working their asses off to get by these supporters do everything they can to get free shit.

Street smart, def - being able to get free shit.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Sounds like the Bernie supporters are aware hes going to get cheated again.

 

[oyarde]

Sounds like the Bernie supporters are aware hes going to get cheated again.

I dunno , he might get it this time , the DNC will push biden but I do not see him getting anywhere near as many votes as hillary got in most of those states

 

[Anti Globalist]

I dunno , he might get it this time , the DNC will push biden but I do not see him getting anywhere near as many votes as hillary got in most of those states

Maybe, but Biden is more likeable than Hillary. Plus hes got a much cleaner record than her even though it isn't saying much.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Maybe, but Biden is more likeable than Hillary.

A Trump/Biden debate should be fun. Sorry Mr Biden, I know you probably wanted to get out more than three words but your times up again. lol

 

[TheCount]

Sounds legit #walkaway #blexit #redtsunami

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Although Bernie had been accused of being 'fake opposition' during last elections, on issues like socialism healthcare, muscular foreign policy, national debt, big gov spending etc, him and MAGA probably could be substituted. Both are also strong supporters of our closest ally, not clear if MAGA's leftwing neocon funders in the past used to fund Bernie like they funded various other democrats.


Top-neocon says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’


Sen. Sanders: I am 100% pro-Israel, but ...

12 Ways Bernie Sanders Is a Pro-Establishment, pro-Israel, Warmonger - He's Part of the Problem, Not the Solution

10 months ago

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1. He voted in favor of use of force (euphemism for bombing) 12 sovereign nations that never represented a threat to the U.S.:

1. Afghanistan.
2. Lebanon.
3. Libya.
4. Palestine.
5. Somalia
6. Syria.
7. Yemen.
8. Yugoslavia
9. Haiti
10. Liberia
11. Zaire (Congo)
12. Sudan

1. He has accepted campaign money from Defense contractor Raytheon, a defense contractor, he continues his undying support of the $1.5 trillion F-35 industry and said that predator drones “have done some very good things”. Sanders has always voted in favor of awarding more corporate welfare for the military industrial complex – and even if he says he’s against a particular war he ends up voting in favor of funding it.

1. He routinely backs appropriations for imperial wars, the corporate scam of Obamacare, wholesale surveillance and bloated defense budgets. He loves to bluster about corporate welfare and big banks but he voted for funding the Commodity Futures “Modernization” Act which deregulated commercial banks and created an “unregulated market in derivatives and swaps” which was the major contributor to the 2007 economic crisis.
2. Regardless of calling himself an “independent”, Sanders is a member of the Democratic caucus and votes 98% of the time with the Democrats and votes in the exact same way as war criminal Hillary Clinton 93% of the time. Sanders campaigned for Bill Clinton in the 1992 presidential race and again in 1996—after Clinton had rammed through the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), vastly expanded the system of mass incarceration and destroyed welfare.

1. The sheepdog is a card the Democratic Party plays when there’s no White House Democrat running for re-election. The sheepdog is a presidential candidate running ostensibly to the left of the establishment Democrat to whom the billionaires will award the nomination. Sheepdogs are herders,…. charged with herding activists and voters back into the Democratic fold who might otherwise drift leftward and outside of the Democratic Party, either staying home. In 2004 he called on Ralph Nader to abandon his presidential campaign.

The Democratic Party has played this “sheep dog” card at least 7-8 times in the past utilizing collaborators such as Eugene McCarthy in 1968, Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988, Jerry Brown in 1992, Al Sharpton in 2000, Howard Dean in 2004, Dennis Kucinich in 2008 and in 2016 was Bernie Sanders’ turn.

1. Regardless of calling himself a “socialist” he labeled the late Hugo Chávez, architect of the Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela responsible for lifting millions of lives out of poverty “a dead communist dictator.” Then he saddled up for a photo op with Evo Morales at the Vatican and also voted to extradite former Black Panther member, Assata Shakur.
2. He refers to ISIS’ godfather and warmonger extraordinaire John McCain as “my friend and a very, very decent person.”
3. He routinely parrots the DNC lines: “the Russians hacked our elections” despite there is no evidence of such hacking, but lowered his head and tucked tail when the DNC actually rigged the primary elections against him, proving he is more loyal to the Democratic (war) Party than to the millions of people who supported him and donated to his fraudulent campaign.
4. He expressed staunch support for the aid of violently right-wing separatist forces such as the self-styled Kosovo Liberation Army, whose members were trained as Mujahideen, during Clinton’s 100-day bombing of Yugoslavia and Kosovo in 1999. He has an extensive record of supporting jihadist proxies for the overthrow of sovereign governments in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria.
5. He supported Bill Clinton’s sanctions against Iraq, sanctions that prohibited medicines for infants and children…more than 500,000 innocents killed for no other reason than that they were Iraqi.

There are some troubling political movements also gathering steam under the radars, hopefully we won't see a Weld-Biden race in 2020. But from early signs, it's not too unprobable that both Bernie and GOP-Adelson neocon wing might not be in 2020 race.

 

[goldenequity]

moved

 

[UWDude]

Sounds like the Bernie supporters are aware hes going to get cheated again.

Yeah, but it's going to be really close again. DNC chosen will edge just by a hair.

So divided.

 

[UWDude]

Maybe, but Biden is more likeable than Hillary. Plus hes got a much cleaner record than her even though it isn't saying much.

Joe Biden has absolutely no chance.
He smells childrens hair.