San Francisco Raising their Minimum Wage to $10

Can someone explain why not having a minimum wage is better than making companies pay people a livable wage? My wife makes 8$ an hour I get SSI because I am disabled together we might bring in 1700$ in a good month and we are pinching pennies to make sure the kids have diapers and clothes and for Christmas make sure they got some toys. Etc Etc Etc....I don't see why making companies pay their slave laborers a livable wage is a bad thing...I mean personally that's what my wife is treated like a low wage slave...she worked for Wal Mart made 8.90 an hour which wasn't horrible but barely livable...
This is from a few days into my college microecon class:

A minimum-wage law may increase the price of the labor (that is, your wage), but it also reduces the quantity of labor demanded (so, firms will hire fewer workers). Therefore, you may enjoy higher pay, but this has a lot of "unintended consequences" as the OP mentioned.

1) Higher unemployment
2) The companies may pass the increased costs onto the consumers, so no real money is being saved
3) Probably (this is just conjecture on my part) insulates larger companies against competition, because they can afford to deal with increased costs of labor, whereas small businesses suffer

Now, you mentioned otherwise being forced to live and work in essentially sweatshop conditions. This should be a concern of many libertarians, but I find that it is often not sufficiently explained. The way to deal with that is alternative methods of employee organization. Things such as strikes and employee co-ops, as well as less of a reliance on the bureaucratic triangle mode of organization that is often found in larger companies can help improve workers' conditions. The typical right-libertarian response you will get is that "Sweatshops are a form of voluntary organization", which on a very technical level may be true, but honestly, if it comes down to that option and nothing else for a person looking for work, the human community has lost its way. There are better ways of organizing that don't involve state-enforced rules like a minimum wage.

The state protects and encourages patterns of inequality. Those handouts are meant as crutches for when the government breaks both your legs. How can an entity like the state that bombs people and steals your wealth via inflation be expected to protect you with measures such as the minimum wage and government benefits? Of course, there is no shame in taking them, because the state's nature makes it so that there really is not a whole lot of viable alternatives to taking its poison. If the choice is between starving and managing to survive somehow, most people are going to make the choice to survive. But these people can and should be focused on improving their lots in life by working to bring down the tyrant that keeps them down, not continuing to depend on aid. I can see how it would be a very difficult task, but it needs to be done.

If you want to read more on a typical left-libertarian critique of sweatshops, here's an excellent article on the subject: http://c4ss.org/content/8840
 
Can someone explain why not having a minimum wage is better than making companies pay people a livable wage? My wife makes 8$ an hour I get SSI because I am disabled together we might bring in 1700$ in a good month and we are pinching pennies to make sure the kids have diapers and clothes and for Christmas make sure they got some toys. Etc Etc Etc....I don't see why making companies pay their slave laborers a livable wage is a bad thing...I mean personally that's what my wife is treated like a low wage slave...she worked for Wal Mart made 8.90 an hour which wasn't horrible but barely livable...

I have a college degree, and a certification on top of that in a few months, and make $14.00/hour entry-level. If they raise minimum wage, the cost of goods will raise to compensate, so it won't really help those working for minimum wage, and will certainly not help me or the middle class. Business will turn a profit, no matter what. They'll simply raise the prices, which offsets whatever "gains" are made in minimum wage. I'm assuming those on minimum wage will purchase products that use minimum wage labor at some level. It's important to look at the value of each dollar, not just the arbitrary number of dollars they are receiving.
 
Unions are the driving force behind the minimum wage because it limits employer choice. If the minimum wage is $8/hr, an employer might hire two people whose skills and experience warrant that amount. However if the minimum wage is $10/hr, it is no longer feasible to hire those two people, so instead a union employee making $15/hr is hired. Peter Schiff explains it better...

 
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There's a natural balance between when the free market is involved. Price setting creates ramifications not considered by the price setter themselves. Further, there's a natural balance between employer and employee via the union, free association is a good thing.

When third parties get involved shit gets fucked up, it's a simple and true principle.
 
If the minimum wage is at the very least supposed to reduce poverty, why do we have still have so much? Why not raise it to $20,$50, or $100 an hour?
 
The real question is: Why were employers in 1964 able to afford to pay a minimum wage of $30 per hour? Supervisors at the time were making the equivalent of $50 per hour. Are you doing that well today?

When you understand why minimum wage today is worth 1/4 of what workers were paid in 1964, then you'll have your answer. People were much wealthier then. The answer: Redeemable currency.
 
If the minimum wage is at the very least supposed to reduce poverty, why do we have still have so much? Why not raise it to $20,$50, or $100 an hour?
Well , that would do away with fat kids :) , the govt agencies would not have to snatch them , nobody is paying a $100 for a happy meal !!
 
Even still, pitch getting rid of minimum wage laws and most people will seriously think that will result in legalized slavery.
 
If the minimum wage is at the very least supposed to reduce poverty, why do we have still have so much? Why not raise it to $20,$50, or $100 an hour?

Just like the stimulus, meign - it needs to be bigger. So yeah, $50 min wage is a good starting point. Then let's go break some windows - who's in?
 
Good point. Even though I may make 24,000 a year I have already had over 3,000 taken out.
And you are likeley young , single , no home mortgage , so you will not be getting any significant Federal tax paid back ?
 
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