Same "undecided" voter in Luntz group again

[colecrowe]

No, they didn't. One is from the Florida debate a few months ago, the other is from Jan 6th Forum.

That is very important. Is this true for sure? Because that is the clincher--and especially if there were two plants. If they were both in NH I could see it happening, but not now...

 

[NYgs23]

I am not getting the confirmation email to do so

I hope so. I'm trying to, but I was kicked off FreeRepublic a few weeks ago and it's not coming through. I figure the site might recognize my computer (I have a different email now).

Anyone with a dormant account there who could do this?

 

[ignoranceisntbliss]

Where are those clips of the CNN standin guy? I remember that the 2nd event was down here in St. Pete. The guy asking that damn 'if you dont get the nomination...'.

Build up the case.

Now that both Fox and CNN have been busted anybody have post debate stuff from the other MSNBC etc debates?

 

[acroso]

I'd send it to free republic if I wasn't banned there...

 

[paulgeek]

These were both in NH, even in the same restaurant. There was a focus group in Florida, but it was in a differently laid out room.

 

[govtpigII]

Credit For Findings

opps repost

 

[logolepsy]

Make sure someone gets this to Lew.

 

[Jodi]

What time in BOTH vids?

Send both to the media. One can be a fluke, but this will do it.

Remember how huge the CNN plants ended being?

I really don't care if there is only one. Fox blatantly lies. For this the gloves should be off, down and dirty.

 

[jbrace]

Fox def lies. I cant believe this.. Ron paul not in the debate now this?! o wait yeah I can it's fox.

 

[dvictr]

someone cut a youtube of this.. RP revolution style!

 

[Jodi]

That is very important. Is this true for sure? Because that is the clincher--and especially if there were two plants. If they were both in NH I could see it happening, but not now...

They are both at NH.

 

[wildflower]

I will post this on FR, but I just want to make sure that this guy was not simply an "undecided" who said something positive about McCain last time, and now went to Romney.


(sorry, maybe i'm just misunderstanding this. do we know for sure that he had decided on McCain before, and now claims to be an undecided going to Romney?)

 

[Antonius Stone]

get this over to Olbermann, he'll crucify them over this

 

[dvictr]

GREAT catch...

 

[dvictr]

if nothing else.. let ruin the career of this asshole

 

[dvictr]

I will post this on FR, but I just want to make sure that this guy was not simply an "undecided" who said something positive about McCain last time, and now went to Romney.


(sorry, maybe i'm just misunderstanding this. do we know for sure that he had decided on McCain before, and now claims to be an undecided going to Romney?)

the undecided cousin... lol

 

[NYgs23]

I will post this on FR, but I just want to make sure that this guy was not simply an "undecided" who said something positive about McCain last time, and now went to Romney.


(sorry, maybe i'm just misunderstanding this. do we know for sure that he had decided on McCain before, and now claims to be an undecided going to Romney?)

I think you should post it there anyway and let the Court of Public Opinion sort it out. It's certainly fishy and I don't think it would be unethical to bring it to others' attention. Otherwise how can they investigate?

And be sure to include a lot of popular search terms at the bottom like "FredThompson" and "Elections" They're mad at Fox for Luntz's bashing of Thompson.

 

[ronpaulitician]

I will post this on FR, but I just want to make sure that this guy was not simply an "undecided" who said something positive about McCain last time, and now went to Romney.

Doesn't really matter.

They should be able (and wanting) to avoid selecting one and the same individual for multiple focus groups.

 

[ord33]

It is without a doubt the same guy - what a great find. Both "focus groups" were from New Hampshire. Not to be a spoiler to this great find (because I do think they are rigged) but its not like he is shilling for the same candidate in both. He may actually be an undecided voter. In the first video he commends McCain and in the second he supports Romney. Obviously Luntz phrases the questions in a way to get the response he wants, but I would guess since they already had that same guy in the first focus group and his contact info they probably keep up with their previous people to see if they are still undecided and this guy maybe just so happened to be undecided.

I'm not saying that Luntz is not crooked, but the guy really does seem to be undecided between the two focus groups. You would think they would come up with some new people!

Edit: Sorry guess someone was typing the same thing as me when posting - sorry Wildflower!)

 

[wildflower]

Ok, you guys. I'll post a thread there.

I'm not sure what to title it though.