Salon: Rand Paul kicks Big Labor when it's down

[Petar]

I can assure you that in Michigan unionism is indeed forced.

Here's the way I see it. If a group of business owners got together and decided what prices they were going to charge for their services, the government would scream collusion. But when a group of workers get together and decide what prices they're going to charge for their services, the government forbids them from seeking other suppliers.

If unionism is truly forced in Michigan, in a criminal mafia sense, then that is something that needs to be dealt with using criminal extortion, RICO laws, etc.

Companies also have a right to get together and decide what they want their prices to be, and that is why antitrust collusion laws are nonsense.

When a group of workers gets together and decides what they want their prices to be, then of course companies have the right to seek other workers, and laws which prohibit that are nonsense as well.

But by the same token, companies also have the right to agree to terms such as wages, or even union membership, and that is why RTF is also another piece of nonsense legislation.

You asked about Bully.... I worked summers at a Union paper mill for 2 weeks (college summer job). I went to the non-union competitor in town for safer working conditions because you are threatened to join or get your head beat.

That's really shitty, but there are already laws against physically threatening someone.

RTA is not a law against physically threatening someone, it is a law that interferes with private contracts.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

That's really shitty, but there are already laws against physically threatening someone.

RTA is not a law against physically threatening someone, it is a law that interferes with private contracts.

Yeah... there are laws for that. There also Democrats they donate to who are supposed to enforce laws they break.

 

[Petar]

Yeah... there are laws for that. There also Democrats they donate to who are supposed to enforce laws they break.

Once again, shitty situation, but still no reason to take away an individuals right to freely engage in private contracts.

The answer is still more liberty, not less.

If we continue to fight for freedom then things will sort themselves out.

If we try to take the easy road by engaging in selective "corrective" tyranny, then we will only be chasing our tails, just like liberals do.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

Once again, shitty situation, but still no reason to take away an individuals right to freely engage in private contracts.

The answer is still more liberty, not less.

If we continue to fight for freedom then things will sort themselves out.

If we try to take the easy road by engaging in selective "corrective" tyranny, then we will only be chasing our tails, just like liberals do.

Problem is that the Union's Political wing advocates less liberty.

 

[Petar]

Problem is that the Union's Political wing advocates less liberty.

Private institutions are free to advocate less liberty all that they want, that does not give government the right to interfere with private contracts.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

Private institutions are free to advocate less liberty all that they want, that does not give government the right to interfere with private contracts.

How is forcing someone to join a union (which is a political group in today's form) a good idea. It's legislation protecting a persons right to associate with who they want, politically.

 

[Petar]

How is forcing someone to join a union (which is a political group in today's form) a good idea. It's legislation protecting a persons right to associate with who they want, politically.

Your basic mental shortcoming is that you fail to understand the simple difference between private negotiation and government force.

With such a weak understanding of liberty, it is a wonder that you are not a full-fledged marxist.