S---! - Iran just invaded Iraq - this is going to get ugly....

Good Gawd

You'd think we'd all be beyond the "is this a ploy?" type questioning... lol.
I guess that most around here are starting to see the forrest for the trees but in the mean time, this needs to be STUDIED. It needs to be recorded, every detail magnified. This way we will see the battle plan. The press needs to be followed, they need to be reported upon. let the hunters become the hunted. I really see no other way from where the majority of us are sitting. They need a big swarm of angry vultures waiting to pick at theiir soulless eyes- I am talking a GLOBAL effort- true cohesion through technology. Eyes everywhere. (sorry, got carried away)
 
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we'll have to wait and see about that. These reports came out as early as Friday morning with no major word from the mainstream. They have reports, but they aren't shoving them down our throats.

Good point, thanks.
 
"Clearly, what is not new is that Saudis (and Kuwaitis) are becoming an old hand at assisting Americans in their adventures in the region. In 1991, Nayirah, the 15-year old daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the U.S., used her ties with the PR firm Hill & Knowlton and came up with the audacious lie that the Iraqis were throwing babies out of the incubators in Kuwait. Hill & Knowlton's marketing helped build domestic support for the war. $40billion of the $60 billion US costs was paid by Saudi Arabia." - Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich

Uh, huh... we're getting warmer. Apparently, the decision has been made to let the American attack dog, Israel *, loose in the Middle East if the US won't participate directly for various reasons.

* Or more appropriately, Israel's attack dog, the United States. We'll see. ;)

were helpin Yemen now.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091219/ap_on_go_ot/us_yemen_al_qaida_3
 

A nice way to win friends, ain't it? There's a solution for attacks on the US in the region ... withdraw back to our borders and stop the unnecessary creation of "radicals" in foreign nations who just might want to come to the US for a little payback. If we leave, we're less of a target. If they come to the US to stir up trouble, an armed populace could handle the problem like seizing those dancing Israelis on 9/11. ;)
 
News

Twitter Hit by Anti-American Cyber Attack
BY JESSICA E. VASCELLARO

Internet-messaging service Twitter Inc. was hit by a cyber attack Thursday night that temporarily steered visitors to a Web site with an anti-American message from a group calling itself the "Iranian Cyber Army."

Twitter co-founder Biz Stone said in a blog post Friday that the San Francisco company's site was "hijacked" and 80% of traffic to Twitter.com was redirected between 9:46 p.m. PST and 11 ...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703523504574604441659730798.html

Report: US helped Yemen's strike against al-Qaida

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WASHINGTON – The U.S. provided firepower and other aid to Yemen in its strike this week against suspected al-Qaida hide-outs and training sites within its borders, the New York Times reported.

President Barack Obama approved the military and intelligence support, which came at the request of the Yemeni government. It was intended to help stem growing attacks against American and other foreign targets in Yemen, the Times reported in its online editions late Friday.

Officials said at least 34 militants were killed in the Yemeni strike on Thursday in what was an unusually heavy assault as the Obama administration presses the deeply unstable country for tougher action against the terror network.

Witnesses, however, put the number killed at over 60 and said the dead were mostly civilians, including women and children. They denied the target was an al-Qaida stronghold, and one provincial official said only 10 militant suspects died.

The United States has repeatedly called on Yemen to take stronger action against al-Qaida, whose fighters have increasingly found refuge here in the past year. Worries over the growing presence are compounded by fears that Yemen could collapse into turmoil from its multiple conflicts and increasing poverty and become another Afghanistan, giving the militants even freer rein.

Speaking to The Associated Press, Mohammed Albasha, a spokesman for the Yemeni embassy in Washington, denied the U.S. launched missiles in the attack.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091219/ap_on_go_ot/us_yemen_al_qaida_3

Iraq asks Iran to withdraw troops from oil field

Page last updated at 00:19 GMT, Saturday, 19 December 2009

Iraq has demanded the immediate withdrawal of Iranian troops who it says have crossed into Iraqi territory and taken control of an oil well.

An Iraqi government spokesman condemned the alleged incursion but said Baghdad was committed to resolving the issue by diplomatic means.

The Iraqis say 11 Iranian soldiers were involved and that they had raised the Iranian flag over the Fakkah oil field.

The National Iranian Oil Company denied that there had been an incursion.

But Iraq's Deputy Interior Minister, Ahmed Ali al-Khafaji, said the Iranians were in control of the well.

"[At 1530] 11 Iranian soldiers infiltrated the Iran-Iraq border and took control of the oil well," he told Reuters news agency.
www.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8421971.stm
 
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("Iranian Cyber Army") ICA

CIA

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geeze, no shit.
so simple, yet soooo "complex"... :D

Layers of an onion...It isn't the layers of the onion I worry about, it is how to cut it... Stiry Fry? Chili? Burrito? Sandwiches? Tuna Fish? So many choices on sliceage.
lol. This is so messed up...
 
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Blowback

great now iraq and iran can continue where they left off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/iran–iraq_war
only now iraq has our boots on the ground to back them up, and thus a reason why our politicians will keep us there. This could become the proxy war with iran using our troops.

blowback

the iran–iraq war, also known as the imposed war (جنگ تحمیلی, jang-e-tahmīlī) and holy defense (دفاع مقدس, defā'-e-moghaddas) in iran, and saddām's qādisiyyah (قادسيّة صدّام, qādisiyyat Ṣaddām) in iraq, was a war between the armed forces of iraq and iran lasting from september 1980 to august 1988.

the war began when iraq invaded iran on 22 september 1980 following a long history of border disputes and fears of shia insurgency among iraq's long-suppressed shia majority influenced by the iranian revolution. although iraq hoped to take advantage of revolutionary chaos in iran and attacked without formal warning, they made only limited progress into iran and within several months were repelled by the iranians who regained virtually all lost territory by june, 1982. For the next six years, iran was on the offensive.[14] despite calls for a ceasefire by the united nations security council, hostilities continued until 20 august, 1988. The last prisoners of war were exchanged in 2003.[14][15]

the war came at a great cost in lives and economic damage — a half a million iraqi and iranian soldiers as well as civilians are believed to have died in the war with many more injured and wounded — but brought neither reparations nor change in borders. the conflict is often compared to world war i[16] because tactics included large scale trench warfare, manned machine-gun posts, bayonet charges, use of barbed wire across trenches and on no-mans land, human wave attacks and iraq's extensive use of chemical weapons (such as mustard gas) against iranian troops and civilians as well as iraqi kurds. At the time, the un security council issued statements that "chemical weapons had been used in the war." however, in these statements iraq was not mentioned by name, so it has been said that "the international community remained silent as iraq used weapons of mass destruction against iranian as well as iraqi kurds" and it is believed that the united states government prevented the un from condemning iraq.[17]
pwns.
 
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YouTube - Tom Lehrer - Who's Next (old Wikipedia version)

YouTube - Tom Lehrer - So Long, Mom (A Song for World War III)

YouTube - Tom Lehrer - The MLF Lullaby

YouTube - Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun

YouTube - Tom Lehrer - We Will All Go Together When We Go

For the sharper pencils in the box, anyone notice he mentioned 3 billion ppl in the last song? These were made in the 1950's or 60's... Current worlds population is 6 billion.... Think petri dish and nutrients. Starting to see the problem?

-t
 
dumb or evil?

Thanks for the link. I didn't know Saudi Arabia was so involved in the PR for past wars. Looks like they're trying it again out of desperation right now.

BenIsForRon,
I am not sure where you got the idea that the Saudi's had anything to do with supposedly flying jets in to the world trade center, you might wanna check your sources, this "ForLiberty" character might be leading you off on a wild goose chase. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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BenIsForRon,
I am not sure where you got the idea that the Saudi's had anything to do with supposedly flying jets in to the world trade center, you might wanna check your sources, this "ForLiberty" character might be leading you off on a wild goose chase. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I don't understand your post. I don't know the true story of 9/11, so naturally I don't know the degree of Saudi involvement, I was talking about the first Gulf War.
 
BenIsForRon,
I am not sure where you got the idea that the Saudi's had anything to do with supposedly flying jets in to the world trade center, you might wanna check your sources, this "ForLiberty" character might be leading you off on a wild goose chase. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

nice sarcasm...

-t
 
Oh ok, I get it. Anywho, what I was saying is that for decades the Saudis have been hiring PR firms to help stoke the interventionist flames in America. Pretty crazy stuff, maybe should be illegal.

What do you guys think? If an American PR firm is helping spread propaganda from a foreign government in America, does that count as treason? Or is protected by the first amendment?
 
Can anyone personally confirm about the twitter thing? I'm amazed that the msm hasn't at least picked that up. Even the neocons at foxnews isn't making a huge deal on the Iraq/Iran thing.
 
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