Russian Oligarch Who Allegedly Paid Michael Cohen Is Linked to Clinton Foundation and John Pod

Swordsmyth said:
Because she and her faction are continuing to attempt a coup known as Russiagate and because she and many of her faction should be shot for treason.
I reply with a quote from you “That is idiotic”...


Swordsmyth said:
In the first place I don't keep an unabridged file on every crook in the world in my head or on my hard drive, in the second the article I posted does contain the allegations that there are connections between Vekselberg and Trump, in the third I am not posting a complete diagram of every connection between every politician each time I post a piece of news, I post the new information.
It looks like you intentionally looked for an article that points the fingers at Clinton.
You’re looking for information that’s even more one-sided than the $hit we get from AP, Reuters or CNN (for distraction?). Maybe you could try Rupert Murdoch’s filthy Sun tabloid for a bit of variety…



I have studiously ignored the whole Stormy Daniels controversy, whether you support or oppose Trump or his enemies there are much more serious issues on either side, Daniels is a distraction and I believe both sides have used her as such once she was vaulted into the headlines.
You confirm that you are able to connect dots, but when I connect these dots, you confirm that you intentionally (not unwittingly) started this thread for “distraction”…
 
The truth isn't biased, what I said would only be biased if it weren't true.

You're pretending facts can't be spun?

And You're accusing others of saying idiotic things?

You never post facts which aren't mixed with plenty of opinion. Even--especially--when you just cut and paste zerohedge daily like a clickbait troll.

It didn't work by your own admission, liberals only want localized government when they think the larger jurisdiction is going against them, as soon as someone (and there will always be someone) offers to let them force liberalism on a whole state or nation or the world they will jump on board that train.

You paint with a mighty broad brush. Of course, when you're a Bolton spammer trying to aid the swampsters by keeping the populace divided, broad, sweeping statements serve your masters best. But they are all fifty percent lies, because half the people you're demonizing will prove you dead wrong.

So it was another liberal scumbag.

Do you classify all Army generals that way? Is that your take on Eisenhower? Just how small is your group of people we shouldn't consider the enemy and make no attempt to ally with? Will you not be happy until this forum has six members?

It has much more to do with you and the rest of the TDS brigade and the usual enemy trolls like zippy and thecount.

I talked about you. You, in turn, spend all your time trying to hang abbreviated, coded labels on me and associate me with somebody else on the forum. Amusing.

It also might have to do with the fact that we don't have any high profile candidates running major campaigns right now while Rand was running for President when I first came here from the dailypaul.

Took you a long ass time to get here from Daily Paul. It had been gone a long time. Get lost? Came by way of Bolton's office?

I am severely disappointed (but not surprised) to learn that Dick Van Dyke is a Bernie Bro, but I am grateful that you exposed yourself as one.

All I exposed is your pitiful guilt by association tactics and your habit of attacking the free speech of members. I mention Sanders and I'm accused of being a fan, despite a decade of evidence to the contrary. I demonstrate that Trump is such a tool of the swamp that he got even more publicity from the owned media than Sanders did, and you jump to distract people from that interesting fact by trying to say if I mention the blithering old socialist fool, I must be trolling for him two years late and a bunch of dollars short. Is that really the best you can do?

Sad!

Meanwhile their presence drives away those who might actually stay committed to small and/or localized government.

That's your whole schtick, isn't it? That's your one-trick-pony spiel. We can't have allies because they'll scare us away. Chase everyone who might align with us--even if only in national elections--because if we don't make them run away, we'll run away.

First, this forum was full of unlikely allies before you got here, when it was busy as Grand Central. Second, nobody with a lick of sense cares how someone votes in a local election unless they're neighbors. People in California can vote for small government national candidates--and yes, we had them doing it--in simple recognition that the federal government is big, corrupt and scary. And why would you care? You don't live in California. You look at it and screech about it a lot, and pretend like what they got is literally contagious--like freedom is so horrible one whiff of socialism will convert liberty lovers. But what happens there has no effect on you unless Boxer or Feinstein does it, and we had quite a few of them voting for Ron Paul. So, clearly, they can recognize that what they can get away with locally will not be safe and manageable federally.

The bottom line is, you work at driving them away, then use this as an excuse. But the fact is, there were thousands of them around here, and they didn't drive anyone away. You sweep in here two years ago and start choosing who among the formerly welcome has to go to make the forum safe for certain people, but the forum had a truce in place--uneasy at times, but functional--and you and your deranged Trumpcucks are the ones who shattered that truce. This is a fact, and you're about to prove yet again you'd rather spin this fact or ignore it than admit it.

And the worst part is, you love big government. You adore the stuff, so long as it's your favorite flavor. And you wonder how you've been spotted as an operative...

Thank You ICE!

You should be careful with that. You're so full of shit, your eyes could hardly be other than brown. what happens when you get your way and tens of millions of ICE agents, and they begin to consider non-Aryan brown eyes to be probable cause?

In actively trying to chase away people who could vote with us in federal elections, you prove yourself the enemy of our friends. And in advocating for bigger federal government and more intrusive ID checks, you are a friend to our enemies. So why would we pay attention to your johnny-come-lately assessment of who our friends and enemies are?
 
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I reply with a quote from you “That is idiotic”...
It is not but you are entitled to your opinion.


It looks like you intentionally looked for an article that points the fingers at Clinton.
You’re looking for information that’s even more one-sided than the $hit we get from AP, Reuters or CNN (for distraction?). Maybe you could try Rupert Murdoch’s filthy Sun tabloid for a bit of variety…
I didn't "look" for anything, I came across an article on an aggregator.



You confirm that you are able to connect dots, but when I connect these dots, you confirm that you intentionally (not unwittingly) started this thread for “distraction”…
I confirmed no such thing, this article is primarily about Viktor Vekselberg not Stormy Daniels.

I have tried to be polite to you and I have appreciated your contributions to this forum, please stop attacking me just because you don't think I attack Trump enough to suit you, I have a right to my position as much as you do yours.
 
You're pretending facts can't be spun?

And You're accusing others of saying idiotic things?

You never post facts which aren't mixed with plenty of opinion. Even--especially--when you just cut and paste zerohedge daily like a clickbait troll.



You paint with a mighty broad brush. Of course, when you're a Bolton spammer trying to aid the swampsters by keeping the populace divided, broad, sweeping statements serve your masters best. But they are all fifty percent lies, because half the people you're demonizing will prove you dead wrong.



Do you classify all Army generals that way? Is that your take on Eisenhower? Just how small is your group of people we shouldn't consider the enemy and make no attempt to ally with? Will you not be happy until this forum has six members?



I talked about you. You, in turn, spend all your time trying to hang abbreviated, coded labels on me and associate me with somebody else on the forum. Amusing.



Took you a long ass time to get here from Daily Paul. It had been gone a long time. Get lost? Came by way of Bolton's office?



All I exposed is your pitiful guilt by association tactics and your habit of attacking the free speech of members. I mention Sanders and I'm accused of being a fan, despite a decade of evidence to the contrary. I demonstrate that Trump is such a tool of the swamp that he got even more publicity from the owned media than Sanders did, and you jump to distract people from that interesting fact by trying to say if I mention the blithering old socialist fool, I must be trolling for him two years late and a bunch of dollars short. Is that really the best you can do?

Sad!



That's your whole schtick, isn't it? That's your one-trick-pony spiel. We can't have allies because they'll scare us away. Chase everyone who might align with us--even if only in national elections--because if we don't make them run away, we'll run away.

First, this forum was full of unlikely allies before you got here, when it was busy as Grand Central. Second, nobody with a lick of sense cares how someone votes in a local election unless they're neighbors. People in California can vote for small government national candidates--and yes, we had them doing it--in simple recognition that the federal government is big, corrupt and scary. And why would you care? You don't live in California. You look at it and screech about it a lot, and pretend like what they got is literally contagious--like freedom is so horrible one whiff of socialism will convert liberty lovers. But what happens there has no effect on you unless Boxer or Feinstein does it, and we had quite a few of them voting for Ron Paul. So, clearly, they can recognize that what they can get away with locally will not be safe and manageable federally.

The bottom line is, you work at driving them away, then use this as an excuse. But the fact is, there were thousands of them around here, and they didn't drive anyone away. You sweep in here two years ago and start choosing who among the formerly welcome has to go to make the forum safe for certain people, but the forum had a truce in place--uneasy at times, but functional--and you and your deranged Trumpcucks are the ones who shattered that truce. This is a fact, and you're about to prove yet again you'd rather spin this fact or ignore it than admit it.

And the worst part is, you love big government. You adore the stuff, so long as it's your favorite flavor. And you wonder how you've been spotted as an operative...



You should be careful with that. You're so full of $#@!, your eyes could hardly be other than brown. what happens when you get your way and tens of millions of ICE agents, and they begin to consider non-Aryan brown eyes to be probable cause?

In actively trying to chase away people who could vote with us in federal elections, you prove yourself the enemy of our friends. And in advocating for bigger federal government and more intrusive ID checks, you are a friend to our enemies. So why would we pay attention to your johnny-come-lately assessment of who our friends and enemies are?
Your ravings are no longer worth a detailed response, it is flattering that you let me live in your head rent free and ascribe to me such great power and influence but it can't be very good for your mental health.
 
Your ravings are no longer worth a detailed response, it is flattering that you let me live in your head rent free and ascribe to me such great power and influence but it can't be very good for your mental health.

You might to take a vacation day or two. I'm sure your bosses will approve. If you choose to stick around, you might want to quit pissing off well-respected members of this forum. Believe it or not, some of us still really do believe in Ron Paul-style principles of liberty.
 
You might to take a vacation day or two. I'm sure your bosses will approve. If you choose to stick around, you might want to quit pissing off well-respected members of this forum. Believe it or not, some of us still really do believe in Ron Paul-style principles of liberty.

I have a right to my opinions as much as anyone and I won't be bullied into silence by tulsa or you.
Tulsa is more deranged and obsessed than you but at least he has the class not to hand out -reps over a legitimate difference of opinion.
 
You might to take a vacation day or two. I'm sure your bosses will approve. If you choose to stick around, you might want to quit pissing off well-respected members of this forum. Believe it or not, some of us still really do believe in Ron Paul-style principles of liberty.

He has to hit twenty posts a day. It is harder with the lower volume of action here these days.
 
He has to hit twenty posts a day. It is harder with the lower volume of action here these days.

Zippy... The place has become a ghostTowne. I remember when Matt Collins owned up to an
Alter-EGO by the snappy&neat moniker 'zanzibar' and curtail his bandwidth hogging a tad. If
SWORDSMYTH wants to SPAM us, then don't personally insult us needlessly. Be polite. Be nice.
The other day I had the crazy idea he and timosman were one and the same, in part due to
the similarity of their snarky put-downs of this old Trekkie~gonzo~Hippie!!!! Truth in Labeling.
 
You might to take a vacation day or two. I'm sure your bosses will approve. If you choose to stick around, you might want to quit pissing off well-respected members of this forum. Believe it or not, some of us still really do believe in Ron Paul-style principles of liberty.

Aratus/WONDERWOMAN is quietly genteelly agreeing with CaptUSA on the antics of a newbie to the eEVOLution! :)
 
He's not paid to tell the truth--that the oligarchs pay the candidates of both parties to ensure they have influence no matter who wins. He's here to ensure no disaffected #WalkAwayCampaign former Democtatic voters come here and find we're kindred spirits. So, he fills the forum with partisan spam designed to scare them away.

After all, the wide base of support Ron Paul was attracting was dangerous to the swamp dwellers. Just a little more of a groundswell would have gotten the attention of the Bandwagon Voters, and that would have meant an anti authoritarian bipartisan populist movement reaching critical mass. The Powers that Be know an anti authoritarian populist movement poses no danger to them unless it's bipartisan. That's why they employ partisan spammers just like Swordsmythe.


Thanks....suspicions confirmed.
 
I have a right to my opinions as much as anyone and I won't be bullied into silence by tulsa or you.
Tulsa is more deranged and obsessed than you but at least he has the class not to hand out -reps over a legitimate difference of opinion.

Luv... acptulsa has a point. zerohenge rather than FOX. or Alex Jones...
And not even clever plagiarism and/or ghostwriting like what the Donald
pulled off in his book. Or JFK in his. At least Bill McKinley when doing a
book on Henry Clay and 1800s Tariffs wrote it his self. Same can be said
about the book Woodrow Wilson wrote on how presidents do things. As
I said, I know this nice guy JOE who wants to run in Ohio. He is at least
3 to 15 degrees to my right on most issues. However he wants to run in a
'rotten borough' on par with Edmund Burke's Bristol where the advantage
is 'blue' to the degree where getting within 3 to 5 percent of the victor is
predestined to set off GOP high hopes locally in Ohio. Despite how 2020 is.
 
Luv... acptulsa has a point. zerohenge rather than FOX. or Alex Jones...
And not even clever plagiarism and/or ghostwriting like what the Donald
pulled off in his book. Or JFK in his. At least Bill McKinley when doing a
book on Henry Clay and 1800s Tariffs wrote it his self. Same can be said
about the book Woodrow Wilson wrote on how presidents do things. As
I said, I know this nice guy JOE who wants to run in Ohio. He is at least
3 to 15 degrees to my right on most issues. However he wants to run in a
'rotten borough' on par with Edmund Burke's Bristol where the advantage
is 'blue' to the degree where getting within 3 to 5 percent of the victor is
predestined to set off GOP high hopes locally in Ohio. Despite how 2020 is.

I have written very many posts that are entirely my own on a variety of subjects.
 
Unless I can get MATT COLLINs to shake JOE's hand publically in a photo-op so we all
can moneybomb proper, my gut is telling me that I must womansplain to poor JOE how
Charlie Baker got voted for by Democrats up here, let alone Bill Weld and Scott Brown.
JOE would have to sound and act like Mitt Romney to really come close in Ohio, selectively
but as a 'newbie' to POTUS running or the like, JOE has few stances that he can do a big
flipflop on. Therefore he must do selective quotes of Gentleman Mitt quips to draw Mittens
people to him. Then he can be forgiven if he sounds sorta Libertarian! There is a way to be
very civil libertarian and Libertarian in Ohio, and win! Without lousing up a moral compass.
 
Odds are, had the voting been more accurate in Wisconsin & Michigan, or even had more folks
voted in the fall of '16, We'd have seen POTUS Hillary womansplaining herself in a big glorious
impeachment trial, and we'd all have been inside the first ONE HUNDRED DAYs of Tim Kaine's
PRESIDENTIAL Administration!!! Impeachments are political. Paul Ryan would have controlled the
HOUSE. Mitch McConnell as our Minority Leader was infamous for micro-managing the U.S SENATE.
I honestly think MIKE PENCE is more like JERRY FORD than he is SPIRO AGNEW and will be our
president for roughly two years if Donald Trump discretely steps down. This being said, the other
thing JOE thinks I am wrong about come November is the color of the 'wave'... He seyz red, I say
blue but can be coaxed into purple, whether democratic or imperial with a finality. Swordsmyth, do
we have to get your permission to do the groundwork and foundation laying of the next wave of very
optimistic & hopeful public office seekers? If so, then explain why this must be so. We must prepare
for everything in the wake of an intense impeachment trial that hits in what is normally the middle
of a president's term of office. JOE is not totally on Mike Pence's wavelength, our veep is something
of a fundie, if he is the standard bearer of the GOP or just a lame-duck C-I-C it changes the landscape.
 
I can readily accept the idea that you have original thoughts in your head, Swordsmyth...
If you are newly slightly more respectful of my prosepoems to Mark Twain & H.L Mencken.
In thy youthful fervor please do not drive we hipster "hip" Auld~Tymers away. Thank you.
 
I miss the days when Matt Collins was our messenger arriving from the omnipresent outside world
into our frontier boomtown in cyberspace. Now it's as if the price of gold or silver fell drastically...
 
Takes one to know one, eh, Zip?

Fed apologists vs. the Russians - who will be the ultimate victor?!

They love to define the battles and define the sides.

Laugh about it, shout about it, when you have to choose.
Either way you look at it you lose.
--Paul Simon

So, they lay out these great battlegrounds, and have their mock fights, and work at getting everyone worked up. And if people were to stop and think about what they're doing for one minute--escape from the herd mentality for sixty seconds--they'd realize it's laughable. Robber barons have us eating below-starvation wages and our savings are evaporating and we're setting the world aflame and the U.S. has never been more resented and they're building nuclear plants in the name of the environment so they can have more plutonium, and we're all worked up over either a failure to throw kids in jail with their parents or politicians who think they're Indians? Really?

And the amazing thing is how sanctimonious they sound when they try to sell these bullshit distractions as meaningful and worthy of fighting about.

This is why one of the greatest virtues is to speak your mind, doing so will make people either love or hate you rather than simply accept you but everyone will be better off and anyone with a lick of sense will respect you.

It will also get you targeted by those to whom you are a threat faster than anything else you can do.

Remember, kiddies. Spamming the forum full of zerohedge cut and paste and regurgitating the MAGA Talking Points of the Day in every thread is a great and noble calling that will get you put on a pedestal. Because what could be more glorious than a mainstream herd echo chamber, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, in Ron Paul's name?

Someone tell this sheepdog no one considers it noble that he's trying to herd us like sheep for the benefit of the sheep shearers. We aren't sheep.
 
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They love to define the battles and define the sides.

Laugh about it, shout about it, when you have to choose.
Either way you look at it you lose.
--Paul Simon

So, they lay out these great battlegrounds, and have their mock fights, and work at getting everyone worked up. And if people were to stop and think about what they're doing for one minute--escape from the herd mentality for sixty seconds--they'd realize it's laughable. Robber barons have us eating below-starvation wages and our savings are evaporating and we're setting the world aflame and the U.S. has never been more resented and they're building nuclear plants in the name of the environment so they can have more plutonium, and we're all worked up over either a failure to throw kids in jail with their parents or politicians who think they're Indians? Really?

And the amazing thing is how sanctimonious they sound when they try to sell these bullshit distractions as meaningful and worthy of fighting about.



Remember, kiddies. Spamming the forum full of zerohedge cut and paste and regurgitating the MAGA Talking Points of the Day in every thread is a great and noble calling that will get you put on a pedestal. Because what could be more glorious than a mainstream herd echo chamber, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, in Ron Paul's name?

Someone tell this sheepdog no one considers it noble that he's trying to herd us like sheep for the benefit of the sheep shearers. We aren't sheep.

Someone rep this man!!! I’m all out.
 
One sells himself as noble for being condescending to everyone who doesn't regurgitate the Federal Reserve Talking Points(TM), and the other sells himself as noble for browbeating everyone who doesn't regurgitate every tweet from DJTveggie and demonizing them as Demoncrats(TM).

My goodness, what did we ever do to deserve all this nobility and enlightenment? :rolleyes:
 
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