Russian MOD Believes Turkey Planning Invasion of Syria

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Grounds to believe Turkey planning military invasion in Syria - Russian military

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Developments on the Turkish-Syrian border give serious grounds to suspect that Ankara is planning a military invasion in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry has said.

“We have serious grounds to suspect intensive preparations by Turkey for a military invasion on the territory of the sovereign state of Syria,” Major General Igor Konashenkov, Defense Ministry spokesman, told journalists.

“We are recording more and more signs of concealed preparations by the Turkish military,” he added.

The spokesman recalled that Moscow had previously provided the international community with irrefutable video evidence of Turkish artillery firing on Syrian populated areas in the north of Latakia Province.

‘Dangerous precedent’: Turkey denies Russian observation flight along Syrian border

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SOURCE: Source: Turkey isn't preparing to invade Syria

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/middleeast/turkey-russia-syria-invasion-denial/

Istanbul (CNN)Turkish forces aren't preparing to invade northern Syria and Russia's allegation that they are is an attempt to hide Moscow's crimes in the war-ravaged nation, a source within the Turkish Prime Minister's office told CNN on Thursday.

"Simply they are diverting attention from their attacks on civilians as a country already invading Syria," the source told CNN. "Turkey has all the rights to take any measures to protect its own security."

The comments come after Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov was quoted by Russian state news agency Ria Novosti as saying Moscow believes some activity on the Turkish side of the border with Syria indicates preparations for an incursion.

"The signs of hidden preparation of Turkish armed forces for activities in the territory of Syria we notice more and more," the general said.

When asked about the Russian claim at a media briefing, John Kirby, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department, said: "I'm not certainly not going to get up here and speak to what the Turks are doing on that border on any given day."

"We continue to work with Turkey, who is an important partner in this coalition to try to go after (ISIS) inside Syria."

Russia openly joined the civil war in September, backing the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad with airstrikes. Russia lost one plane and one of its pilots in November when a Turkish F-16 shot the jet down. The two nations have argued over whether the warplane was over Turkey or Syria.

After the shootdown, Russia imposed a series of economic sanctions on Turkey, banning the import of some goods, imposing restrictions on travel, barring some Turkish companies from doing business in Russia and suspending a $12 billion gas pipeline project between the nations.

Tensions were further strained last week when Turkey summoned the Russian ambassador in Ankara to protest and condemn what it called a violation of airspace by a Russian warplane.

The Russian Defense Ministry denied that it violated Turkish airspace and called Ankara's allegations "unfounded propaganda."

Two weeks ago, two U.S. officials told CNN it appeared that Russia could be making moves to establish an air base in northeastern Syria near the Turkish border.

The officials said the United States had seen a "limited" number of Russian military personnel, more akin to an exploratory party, looking at an airfield in Qamishli, in northeast Syria, possibly to determine how they might use the site.

Russia has already established a base of operations at an air base in Latakia along Syria's Mediterranean coast.

Russian airstrikes also played a role in temporary derailing talks aimed at creating a nationwide ceasefire in Syria.

The discussions broke up Wednesday amid opposition anger over the brutal Russian air campaign over Aleppo province.

The United States, France and Turkey have criticized the airstrikes, but Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov vowed Wednesday to continue the strikes "until we truly win over terrorist groups."

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said that he had spoken with Lavrov on Thursday, adding both parties "agreed that we need to discuss how to implement the ceasefire."

U.N. special envoy Staffan de Mistura announced "a pause" in discussions Wednesday, saying they should restart February 25.

There you have it folks. Russia is just a bunch of big fat liars trying to hide their heinous crimes. Clearly, Turkey is our great friend and ally against ISIS, and Russia is just helping Assad barrel bomb innocent civilians.
 
But the Russian propaganda channel says they are. Russia kept saying they were not going to enter the Ukraine too.
 
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But the Russian propaganda channel says they are.

Granted.

But the main difference between our propaganda channels and theirs is that Russia always accuses directly and our propaganda always seems to refute with "a source in the administration".

This whole situation stinks to high heaven. The Turks are "preparing" and now the Saudis say they are ready for ground war with the coalition. It sounds to me like balkanization boundaries may have been decided and it's time take ISIS offline so that the pigs can go in now and claim their spoils.

Even I toyed with the idea that Russia was "going rogue" and trying to do something right, but the longer it drags on and the more things come to light, it just looks like everyone is following some plan towards a yet undisclosed end game.
 
In Syria, Russia is concerned about the territory- not preserving the Assad government. They first want to take control of the land and end the fighting- stabilize it. Then they will try to install a different government to replace Assad. They are trying to end the current chaos and prevent further chaos which would result if Assad was forced from office. Syria gives them access to naval bases along the Mediterranean which are important to them. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-strategic-importance-of-Syria

That is also why they are interested in the strip along southern Ukraine. Military access.
 
In Syria, Russia is concerned about the territory- not preserving the Assad government. They first want to take control of the land and end the fighting- stabilize it. Then they will try to install a different government to replace Assad. They are trying to end the current chaos and prevent further chaos which would result if Assad was forced from office. Syria gives them access to naval bases along the Mediterranean which are important to them. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-strategic-importance-of-Syria

That is also why they are interested in the strip along southern Ukraine. Military access.

Yes, but from a libertarian standpoint, given that we can't know the motives of the power centers on either side, don't you think we have to side with those who are de-escalating violence rather than escalating?

Saddam has WMD's - unproven (though he may have moved them).
Gaddafi killed protesters - unproven (likely a flat out lie)
Assad used chemical weapons - unproven (Obama says social media posts proves it)

I don't think as anti-war people it's valid to simply speculate and say, "well they're evil too!" Of course they are playing the same game. But officially it's the US who seems to be escalating.

Of course there is propaganda on both sides, but looking at facts, and who is authorizing what (not that Russia hasn't played along on the security council) US coalition seems to be the instigators. If we stop that, then maybe we'd see somewhere to blame Russia. But America is so off the chain, that ISIS is able to recruit based on moral highground. Very sad.
 
In the case of Syria, Russia's actions will bring peace decades sooner than our actions. That will also help the refugee crisis in Europe and remove a base for ISIS. US aid to "moderate rebels" will only prolong it. Russia blames Assad for messing things up in Syria.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-preview-the-road-to-syria/

Adm. Vladimir Komoyedov, chairman of the Russian Parliament's Defense Committee, believes removing Assad would be "an enormous mistake" that would create chaos. Yet, he is clearly disappointed with Syrian dictator. "The problem is that he has lost some of his authority," he tells Whitaker. "We know why the opposition was formed. It was formed due to the mistakes of the president of Syria himself," says Komoyedov.


He says the Syrians have had their lives ruined due in large part to those mistakes, especially the way he has waged war against rebels by killing many civilians. Komoyedov used a derogatory word to describe Assad that 60 Minutes agreed not to use on the air.
 
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In the case of Syria, Russia's actions will bring peace decades sooner than our actions. That will also help the refugee crisis in Europe and remove a base for ISIS. US aid to "moderate rebels" will only prolong it.

That's kind of what I was getting at, but at the same time I do agree with the gist of your pointing out Russian propaganda, that being that we certainly shouldn't get it in our minds that "they are the good guys".
 
Some like Russia and Putin simply because they are anti- US but that is to ignore that Russia also conducts military transgressions and is even worse in denying liberties and freedoms for their citizens. Or maybe it is just his tough-guy John Wayne image.
 
That's kind of what I was getting at, but at the same time I do agree with the gist of your pointing out Russian propaganda, that being that we certainly shouldn't get it in our minds that "they are the good guys".

Good lord, what are you two yapping about? we certainly shouldn't get it in our minds that "they are the good guys", really? You mean to tell me that the country trying to prevent what happened to Libya to happen to Syria are not the good guys? Makes no mistake, regardless of the imagine evil you and Zippy think Russia is planning for Syria once they have destroyed the western backed terrorists, at this moment, they are the good guys in Syria.

Also you don't believe that the country backing ISIS and the country that have sent troops into Iraq are not planning on doing something after the Russia broke the siege laid by their proxy forces and cut off their proxy army supply line. I think Russia is calling them out in the hope they don't try any thing funny.
 
Good lord, what are you two yapping about? we certainly shouldn't get it in our minds that "they are the good guys", really? You mean to tell me that the country trying to prevent what happened to Libya to happen to Syria are not the good guys? Makes no mistake, regardless of the imagine evil you and Zippy think Russia is planning for Syria once they have destroyed the western backed terrorists, at this moment, they are the good guys in Syria.

Also you don't believe that the country backing ISIS and the country that have sent troops into Iraq are not planning on doing something after the Russia broke the siege laid by their proxy forces and cut off their proxy army supply line. I think Russia is calling them out in the hope they don't try any thing funny.

Forgive Zippy. He is very concerned about the Russian citizens and their civil liberties. He cries himself to sleep every night thinking about the terrible fate of the Russian citizens.
 
Picture is from October 2014. Link: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.alquds.co.uk/?p=231108&prev=search
Translated text:

Turkish Land Forces Commander being an inspection tour of the forces on the borders of Syria

Shanley Oorv- Anatolia: Turkish Land Forces Commander Gen. conducted "Hulusi Acar" inspection tour deployed on the Syrian border, the military units.

Acar and began his inspection tour led by the third battalion of the border guards, and armored military units deployed along the Turkish border with Syria in the state of Şanlıurfa.

Acar and explored the high point of the border areas, and places of occurrence of clashes on the Syrian side of the organization Daash Kurdish militants in Ain Arab (Kobani).

Acar was accompanied on his tour of the Second Army commander Gen. "Adam parametric" and the commander of the Seventh Corps team, "Ibrahim Yilmaz."
 
Good lord, what are you two yapping about? we certainly shouldn't get it in our minds that "they are the good guys", really? You mean to tell me that the country trying to prevent what happened to Libya to happen to Syria are not the good guys? Makes no mistake, regardless of the imagine evil you and Zippy think Russia is planning for Syria once they have destroyed the western backed terrorists, at this moment, they are the good guys in Syria.

Also you don't believe that the country backing ISIS and the country that have sent troops into Iraq are not planning on doing something after the Russia broke the siege laid by their proxy forces and cut off their proxy army supply line. I think Russia is calling them out in the hope they don't try any thing funny.

I think we were yapping that Russia was the "good guy" in the current situation but we shouldn't think they are the "good guys" in general. Mostly because I don't really think anyone is the good guy in general. God is the good guy in general, as you pointed out in your first sentence.
 
Hey Golden,
Miss your very informative updates from PL.
Also miss the ability to upvote your posts.
 
Hey Golden,
Miss your very informative updates from PL.
Also miss the ability to upvote your posts.
Hey AZ... nice to see ya...
yeah... had a run at it here for a few weeks...
then the Oregon thing happened and pulled me off the global/Syria stuff.
Now just mourning Lavoy... he felt like a good friend. ugh.
Welcome to RPF... it's a good crowd here..
cheers!
G.
 
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