Russia Today TV is pushing the envelope. How long will the establishment tolerate this?

[randomname]

RT has grown to have huge viewership. they're one of the best viewed channels in eastern europe I hear.

 

[Root]

I watch RT just because they cover news that the msm ignores. I do realize there is a propaganda aspect.

Is there any news source that's completely legit? That just delivers the facts with, no spin, agenda, or politics?

 

[mz10]

Is there any news source that's completely legit? That just delivers the facts with, no spin, agenda, or politics?

No, but there are a few that are not bankrolled by foreign governments. Anyone who believes the Kremlin is trying to promote liberty is officially out of their minds.

 

[CyberTootie]

A certain someone from the RevolutionPAC is trying to start the "Next News Network".

http://nextnewsnetwork.com/

 

[CyberTootie]

A certain someone from the RevolutionPAC is trying to start the "Next News Network".

http://nextnewsnetwork.com/

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

US media is profiteering entertainment, mind control by their advertisers/special interests... in the land of Fascism. Let's take a quick snapshot at what would happen to corporate media, if there was Peace and an end to the Military/Drug/Police-Prison Industrial Complexes around the world. Just turn on your Fav local News Media channel @ 5, 6, 10, 11, 5AM, 6AM, 7-9AM... watch the Police/Judicial/Political mind control

===> http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...aid-Off-With-Ron-Paul-quot&highlight=Pentagon

 

[Occam's Banana]

Or...hold on, crazy idea here...we avoid government propaganda altogether? Wouldn't that just be swell.

It would. But it's never going to happen. *Every* news source - even "honest" or "objective" ones - are going to have some sort of slant or angle.

The irony. They use the same logic as the Fox News sheep for why it's supposedly okay (well who cares if it's propaganda as long as it's something I agree with?).

No, the irony is that you are doing the very sort of thing you accuse others of doing.

"I don't like the source, so to hell with them." Same mistake, different direction.

No, but there are a few that are not bankrolled by foreign governments. Anyone who believes the Kremlin is trying to promote liberty is officially out of their minds.

Who has stated that he or she "believes the Kremlin is trying to promote liberty?"

Put words in other peoples' mouths, much?

A certain someone from the RevolutionPAC is trying to start the "Next News Network".

http://nextnewsnetwork.com/

And if the sort of innuendo-mongering in the clip linked below is any indication of the sort of "journalism" that can be expected from them, NNN is a complete waste of time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFAmfa5MHS0

 

[mz10]

*Every* news source - even "honest" or "objective" ones - are going to have some sort of slant or angle.

Yes. That does not make them government propaganda. Roll Call is not government-funded. Politico is not government-funded. The Hill, Real Clear Politics, Daily Caller, do I need to go on? Most news sources are not (at least directly) government-funded.

"I don't like the source, so to hell with them." Same mistake, different direction.

If Goldman Sachs starts espousing libertarian ideals tomorrow, I likely will not support them. My hunch is you wouldn't either.

Who has stated that he or she "believes the Kremlin is trying to promote liberty?"

Regardless of whether anyone said those specific words, getting your daily libertarian news from the same institution that raided churches and killed political dissidents seems a bit odd to me.

 

[pcosmar]

. Roll Call is not government-funded. Politico is not government-funded. The Hill, Real Clear Politics, Daily Caller, do I need to go on? Most news sources are not (at least directly) government-funded.
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You really have no clue do you?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Yes. That does not make them government propaganda. Roll Call is not government-funded. Politico is not government-funded. The Hill, Real Clear Politics, Daily Caller, do I need to go on? Most news sources are not (at least directly) government-funded.

If "they" (i.e., any given news sources) are a source of skeptical status quo contrarianism, then I say "hooray for them" - I don't care *who* they are funded by or *what* their (ulterior) motives may be.

If Goldman Sachs starts espousing libertarian ideals tomorrow, I likely will not support them. My hunch is you wouldn't either.

That depends entirely on what you mean by "espouse" and "support."

Regardless of whether anyone said those specific words, getting your daily libertarian news from the same institution that raided churches and killed political dissidents seems a bit odd to me.

There you go again - who said (or even implied) *anything* about RT America being a source of so-called "libertarian news"?

I do not get "daily libertarian news" (whatever that might be) from *anyone* - with the possible exception of LRC (and that would have to be a *very* loose definition of "news").

 

[anaconda]

Why does RT seem kind of low budget? The lady in the OP video messes up a word or two (usually omitting or slushing a complete syllable) in every other sentence.

Having said this, I commend RT for it's writing and content.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

I think some people need to acknowledge that RT has an agenda and may not always tell the truth on certain issues. Don't be brainwashed by the media (from any country)

 

[pcosmar]

I think some people need to acknowledge that RT has an agenda and may not always tell the truth on certain issues.

And the Other Propaganda sources do?
I welcome the alternative. That does not mean I trust them blindly.

What was there about the originally posted video that so many find offensive? other than the source.
Few are commenting on the content,, but are dismissing the content due to the producer.

I don't care for Faux snooze,, but still liked some of what The Judge presented.
Same with a few of the other Propaganda networks.

 

[Petar]

Does RT talk about Pussy Riot?

My guess is that they don't.

 

[mz10]

I think some people need to acknowledge that RT has an agenda and may not always tell the truth on certain issues. Don't be brainwashed by the media (from any country)

The point of RT is clearly for the Kremlin to encourage dissent against the U.S. government. They are using us for their own benefit. But the way some people around here think, it sounds like statism is fine as long as it's not Republicans doing it. Believe it or not, Mitt Romney is not the only threat to liberty in the world.

 

[paulbot24]

Yes. That does not make them government propaganda. Roll Call is not government-funded. Politico is not government-funded. The Hill, Real Clear Politics, Daily Caller, do I need to go on? Most news sources are not (at least directly) government-funded.



If Goldman Sachs starts espousing libertarian ideals tomorrow, I likely will not support them. My hunch is you wouldn't either.



Regardless of whether anyone said those specific words, getting your daily libertarian news from the same institution that raided churches and killed political dissidents seems a bit odd to me.

Clearly your brain has received enough government funding.

 

[Occam's Banana]

And why do commentators speak in English?

Because it's not RT (which *does* use Russian) - it's "RT America", the English-language counterpart of RT.

 

[Occam's Banana]

What was there about the originally posted video that so many find offensive? other than the source.
Few are commenting on the content,, but are dismissing the content due to the producer.

Apparently, they're terrified that they'll be turned into clones of Vladdy Putin.

That's the only guess I'm able to come up with, anyway.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Does RT talk about Pussy Riot?

My guess is that they don't.

I'm guessing they haven't talked about Katyn Forest, either. So what?

There are plenty of things the US MSM doesn't talk about (and it doesn't talk about them for the same reasons).

This is why I don't restrict myself to just "approved" news sources. (And that goes for sources "approved" by *anyone* - including other libertarians.)

 

[Occam's Banana]

The point of RT is clearly for the Kremlin to encourage dissent against the U.S. government.

So? The U.S. government deserves to be dissented against. So does the Russian government. So do all governments.

I'll take that dissent wherever I can get it. Especially U.S. dissent, since that is where I happen to live. Russian dissent I will leave to Russian dissenters.

What is so hard to understand about this?

They are using us for their own benefit.

And we are using them for our own benefit.

The messenger is *not* the message.

But the way some people around here think, it sounds like statism is fine as long as it's not Republicans doing it.

Boy, you're really just going to *insist* on reading peoples' minds and putting words into their mouths, aren't you?