Russell Brand May Have Started a Revolution Last Night

[Voluntarist]

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[Voluntarist]

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[satchelmcqueen]

this guy has some power and influence. i liked the interview and especially the last minute. im going to go this route when i get my comedy routine going. a george carlin inspired ending that will be serious if for just a few minutes. give the people something to think about. i plan on eventually wearing my ron paul shirts while on stage if it goes over well. one must use any opportunity when possible.

 

[gwax23]

guys an idiot

 

[Elias Graves]

Russell who?

 

[Noblegeorge]

he may be a lot of things but he's certainly not an idiot.

 

[Cleaner44]

Brand seems like a brilliant guy. Unfortunately, like the OWS crowd and most folks on the alternative left, he's great at honing in on all that's wrong and correctly identifying many of our problems, but terrible at prescribing sustainable and moral policy solutions to those ills. When he comes to the point of disabusing himself of the idea that "greedy corporations" need to be taxed more, and when he embraces non-aggression as a universal axiom, I'll take him a lot more seriously.

guys an idiot

Russell who?

Buddy is correct, the guy is not an idiot. Like many other people he has figured out that we have a problem with the current system, but he has yet to discover real solutions. He and others like him need our help, they don't need to be mocked. The way I look at it, we have a duty to at least attempt to help others that aren't quite there yet.

 

[kahless]

Russell Brand May Have Started a Revolution Last Night

Oh please, very few people take this comedian seriously. Seeing that thread title here is embarrassing.

 

[Danke]

I hate pointing to Wiki, but it's the fastest route - see here.



Employee wages, bonuses and incentives are considered business expenses and deducted from the profit. After taxes are taken out of the profits, much of the remainder is passed along as dividends to the stockholders, and which are then then taxed on each stockholders individual tax filing as investment income. Effectively, the dividends that reach the stockholder are taxed twice by each federal/state/city taxing authority (once at the corporate level and once at the stockholder level).

When you take federal, state and local corporate income taxes into account - the United States has the highest corporate income tax in the world (though there are so many loopholes that some companies pay no tax at all).

As I said, employees, stakeholders and consumers.

 

[Athan]

Reminds me of this:

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[Acala]

What we really need is for the corporations to get out of the states business.
Ban lobbying
Ban corporate donations. The stockholders already have a vote, they shouldn't be able to buy another vote.
Get rid of corporate personjood.

Do those three things and most of the problems in this country would fix themselves.

-t

As long as the government has the POWER to hand out largesse, corruption will follow. Do you think that hundreds of thousands of people with hundreds of billions of dollars of profits at stake will not be able to figure out a way to influence politicians? I have sad news to the contrary.

 

[Athan]

Man, that was purddy good.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Maybe ... if by "revolution" you mean "enthusiastically vague & quasi-intellectual gibberish" ...

 

[Ronin Truth]

Huh? How does a corporation pay tax? It is taken from the pockets of their employees, stakeholders and consumers. If they don't pass it along, they go out of business.

Actually, when you get right down to it, corporations pay for nothing.....ever. Their customers pay for it all.

 

[BenIsForRon]

He's certainly fun to listen to. How awesome would it be if he started hanging with Daniel Hannan and turned into a libertarian?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Actually, when you get right down to it, corporations pay for nothing.....ever. Their customers pay for it all.

Not true. I refer you to Rothbard's discussion of taxation and "tax shifting" in the "Power & Market" epilogue to Man, Economy and State.

 

[Voluntarist]

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[Ronin Truth]

Not true. I refer you to Rothbard's discussion of taxation and "tax shifting" in the "Power & Market" epilogue to Man, Economy and State.

It's been a few decades since reading Rothbard. http://mises.org/books/powermarket.pdf Do you have a page number?

Unless the corporation is printing money, it has to come from somewhere else to cover its' expenses (including taxes). Correct? Where else can it come from, aside from the customers AKA revenue? (Well I guess government grants, subsidies, etc. are options too. )