Rush Limbaugh gives up on Afghanistan; sides with Ron Paul

[TheGrinch]

Even a popular morning radio show in my area (that has ripped on Paul a lot-think he's a mitt guy) was taking that same line today, doing all they could, to get a guy from the Military to agree with them that afghanastan is a pointless waste and that we should leave.

Something is up.

Maybe they think it's a huge way to get the troops to settle down their passion for getting behind Paul.

Bingo... I was sitting here just trying to figure this out, because it didn't make much sense to me that they would actually think that even Paul's soft supporters are going to be swayed by this (in fact, I'd say the soft supporters are those less passionate about the wars; for those of us who are passionate it's obviously NOBP), but I forgot about the story where Obama's about to cut the military & vet's medical benefits, and also my most "pro-war" buddy just got back from Afganistan, where he doesn't see us accomplishing anything...

You could be correct that it's an appeal to settle the troops and their families down before they make up their mind (and probably also just gearing up for the general, when they can say they've been calling for it for "a while"). I do not think this is a strategy they plan to use much for the primaries however, as it doesn't make much much sense, and is very unlikely to sway most primary voters who either disagree with Dr. Paul on FP or are with him for other reasons (and again, we know Limbaugh isn't influencing the real anti-war crowd, i.e., us).

I guess the other possibility is gearing up for Iran. I certainly wouldn't put it past them to end one to start another (they'd pretty much have to, the way they're spread out now); But hoping that it's simpler than that, as naive as it may be....

 

[InTradePro]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/limb...roops-home-and-say-the-hell-with-afghanistan/

and duplicate thread (sort of) in general politics

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...y-but-doesn-t-realize-he-actually-supports-it

 

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

It's been hashed about that Iran is twice the size of Afghanistan and their military is about 3x more powerful in manpower and weaponry. A war with Iran will cost nearly twice the amount to wage then what Afghanistan cost us. Plus there's the possibility of having Russia get involved. You are seeing the beginning stages of WW3 being laid out and its going to get ugly if it does. The war-mongers, in their delusional minds think its a winnable war, but it will not. Their pea-brains think pulling troops out of Afghan is the winnable strategy.

If this is the case, then the Paul campaign and we, need to use this to our advantage by informing people that the turn face on bringing the troops and resources out of Afghanastan is to better gear up for our waging WWIII on Iran, and indirectly Russia and China and whoever else has Irans back. This is nuts. Ready to vote for Paul yet? How do we make it backfire and get even more support for Paul?

On a side note, I really wish we had another peaceful planet to move too. ~sigh

 

[Athan]

WTF IS GOING ON?

Maybe they checked the Debt clock?

 

[Boss]

It doesn't sound much like they're agreeing with us.

It sounds more like Rush is feeling that US troops might have stayed a bit too long in Afghanistan, although under the Bush years good things were being accomplished, and now under Obama its all bad. It also sounds like Rush sees this as an isolated incident and that he doesn't hold a universal opinion that we shouldn't be nation building, rather that we only shouldn't be nation building in Afghanistan under Obama.

 

[Fredom101]

He praised Bush in that diatribe, and is wrong that Afghanistan was ever "stateless", suggesting that that's how Al Qaeda took over. That's a bunch of bullshit. I'm not sure what is going on but it seems like this is one of those "Bush was fighting the war properly and Obama is fucking it up" mantras.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Added to the Ron Pauling Database

 

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

Added to the Ron Pauling Database

lol Sweeet!

 

[phil4truth]

Does he actually name Ron Paul and compliment him? I'm not going to listen to that tool for 5 minutes unless I'm getting a rongasm.

Lol. Eloquently put.

 

[CaptUSA]

It doesn't sound much like they're agreeing with us.

It sounds more like Rush is feeling that US troops might have stayed a bit too long in Afghanistan, although under the Bush years good things were being accomplished, and now under Obama its all bad. It also sounds like Rush sees this as an isolated incident and that he doesn't hold a universal opinion that we shouldn't be nation building, rather that we only shouldn't be nation building in Afghanistan under Obama.

Yeah, they don't get it completely, but it's a start.

The situation in Iraq was entirely predictable. Just like the housing bubble, the debt bubble, the financial crisis, the education bubble...

The good part is that his listeners should begin to discover a new distaste for continued action in Afghanistan. Whether it's for the right reasons or not, it plays into our wheelhouse. Ron Paul is out there screaming, "Let's end this mess!" and now some neocons are beginning to agree. It shows that maybe Paul isn't so crazy after all. And just maybe, they'll take a deeper look into why Paul keeps getting all of his predictions right.

 

[Antwan15]

Rush says somthing new everyday, tomorrow he'll be screaming about bombing syria.

 

[D.A.S.]

Jeez he's not siding with Ron Paul!! Rush is just advancing his agenda whatever that may be. Probably setting up a more important conflict for the US, such as Iran. This is nothing new. Hell hasn't frozen over yet.

 

[opinionatedfool]

He's going to endorse the grinch probably. Grinch just came out saying he was against it too. A neocon has to do what other neocons are doing to stay a neocon.

 

[Agorism]

lol @ funny title

 

[Oddone]

Troops in Afghanistan come home + Troops from Iraq come home = Now we have the people to attack Iran.. lol...

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

*edit for quote*

He's going to endorse the grinch probably. Grinch just came out saying he was against it too. A neocon has to do what other neocons are doing to stay a neocon.

They wont dare side with Ron and it seems convenient that Gingrich is starting to support this side. Heck, I am sure that we will start hearing how Gingrich is against the war since day one! Gingrich would probably get a surge later/soon, otherwise he should've dropped out by now.

 

[GrahamUK]

Of course I wonder if he, like Michael Savage, is giving up on one war (Afghanistan) so he can gear up for another war (Iran)?

Maybe they want increase their chances of actually WINNING one, law of averages says they'll win one eventually =)

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Only because Obama won't even try to win the war.

I am against the war at this point, but for goodness sakes either try to make progress or leave, don't just sit there.

 

[RickyJ]

Only because Obama won't even try to win the war.

I am against the war at this point, but for goodness sakes either try to make progress or leave, don't just sit there.

At this point? WTH? The war in Afghanistan has been a joke from the start. What do you call "winning?" Killing all the Afghans before we leave?

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

4 Trillion dollars. 10+ years. Thousands of veterans KIA. Tens of Thousands of veterans commit suicide or homeless. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of middle eastern civilians displaced, maimed or killed.

To kill 1 guy and his gang called Al Qaida =|... Besides the side adventure of going after the Taliban and forcing western ways on to the people.

I'd say it was pretty fail. Yes. Al Qaida needed to pay... but at what cost to us?!