Rubio IA surge - now we know the ABC/RNC debate rules were created to exclude Rand

[Anti-Neocon]

All the more reason to fight for Iowa though.

I won't even post the crap poll because it's not very reputable, but Rubio is at 18%

 

[Mike4Freedom]

Another crock of shit. In this poll:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/NBC%20News_WSJ_Marist%20Poll_Iowa%20Annotated%20Questionnaire_January%2028%202016.pdf

I cannot copy and paste for some reason.

"HH SELECTION - LANDLINE FRAME ONLY"

Trump 32
Cruz 25
Rubio 18
Carson 8
Bush 4
Fiorina 2
Kasich 2
Paul 2
Huckabee 2
Undecided 3

Ok, it states that it was a landline only poll and they do not show age groups or anything. This is the same thing they did with santorum. They are trying to get people to jump ship from christie, kasich, and JEB in Iowa so Rubio finishes strong.

Oh, another thing only 3 percent undecided? Seriously?

Rand needs to have the debate of his lifetime.

I just hope that the people in Iowa do not fall for it this time.

 

[Foreigner]

To be fair, if Rand does not place in top 3 in Iowa, the campaign is over anyway.

But I think Rand has very good chances of placing top 3, infact I would be more surprised if he's not. I'd say 2nd place is certainly reachable too. 1st place would be one of the biggest upsets in political history, I don't expect it, but if the GOTV operation works flawlessly, there is a hope.

 

[Mike4Freedom]

To be fair, if Rand does not place in top 3 in Iowa, the campaign is over anyway.

But I think Rand has very good chances of placing top 3, infact I would be more surprised if he's not. I'd say 2nd place is certainly reachable too. 1st place would be one of the biggest upsets in political history, I don't expect it, but if the GOTV operation works flawlessly, there is a hope.

I agree with you 100% He has to get 3rd. I think they saw that he could do it and are trying this last minute Rubio pump. This could backfire though. Trump and Cruz supporters could go to Rubio and that would help Rand out. I do think 2nd place is doable as well.

If he can somehow manage to GOTV hardcore and get 1st place it will be great watching the media trip up over itself.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Yup, last minute massaged poll result, manufactured to justify the media talking about Rubio non-stop in the days leading to Iowa. The MSM needs this cover in order to press its thumb on the scale. This emphasis on a strong third finish by Rubio could backfire on the media, if Rand actually upsets the narrative by finishing third or higher---will the MSM then suddenly walk back their claims that third place in IA is important?

 

[FriedChicken]

Let's see how it plays out I guess.
If the campaign isn't bold faced lieing about the supporters they've found, and I don't think they are, then it's obvious that "they" (the pollsters) are doing their best to discourage them into not showing or switching candidates.

but if we get all of our people there a last minute surge by Rubio splitting up the Cruz and maybe trump vote could help us place higher.

Those speeches given at the caucus are extremely important and could change everything.

 

[dancjm]

First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you. <<< You are here
Then you win.

 

[Sentinelrv]

If this is really happening, then Rand needs to preempt their media push and destroy Rubio at the debate tonight.

 

[CPUd]

Rubio's campaign has been dumping a lot of money in Iowa since late last week, mostly on TV ads.

 

[kbs021]

Rubio's ground game has been mediocre at best for a LONG time in Iowa. The media are trying to pump him us as the third place finisher to try and keep Rand out. Not too worried, he was just at 11, 12, 13 in earlier polls this week. This is media influence, don't even think of backing down.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Rubio's ground game has been mediocre at best for a LONG time in Iowa. The media are trying to pump him us as the third place finisher to try and keep Rand out. Not too worried, he was just at 11, 12, 13 in earlier polls this week. This is media influence, don't even think of backing down.

Knowing what we know, the IA caucuses will serve as a double proof of concept. First, which will prevail or prove stronger---Rand's ground game, or the media's 'surge' gaming of the coverage? And, can the frontrunner openly defy a network by skipping its debate on the eve of the caucus, yet win the contest anyway?

 

[Fivezeroes]

Knowing what we know, the IA caucuses will serve as a double proof of concept. First, which will prevail or prove stronger---Rand's ground game, or the media's 'surge' gaming of the coverage? And, can the frontrunner openly defy a network by skipping its debate on the eve of the caucus, yet win the contest anyway?

Rand will finish 3rd place but the media wont even mention it. It will be Trump, Cruz, ---- , Rubio. Like how they did to his dad.

 

[torchbearer]

save this poll for later.

 

[opinionatedfool]

Rand will finish 3rd place but the media wont even mention it. It will be Trump, Cruz, ---- , Rubio. Like how they did to his dad.

So true!

 

[opinionatedfool]

All the more reason to fight for Iowa though.

I won't even post the crap poll because it's not very reputable, but Rubio is at 18%

Trying to pull a Santorum again... idiots

 

[maxoutco]

Trying to pull a Santorum again... idiots

Yup, and then it was Huntsman surge in New Hampshire. Establishment always puts the surge in place just at the right time so everyone hops on the bandwagon. It's really quite the joke and needs to be exposed.

I'm not laughing btw...

 

[Brian4Liberty]

To be fair, if Rand does not place in top 3 in Iowa, the campaign is over anyway.

But I think Rand has very good chances of placing top 3, infact I would be more surprised if he's not. I'd say 2nd place is certainly reachable too. 1st place would be one of the biggest upsets in political history, I don't expect it, but if the GOTV operation works flawlessly, there is a hope.

Ran only has to finish in the top 5 to show the entire debate/polling positions "system" as fake. They have never had Rand higher than what, 8th position at the debates? Position at the debates is supposedly the most accurate as it is taken from multiple polls, and it is certainly the most important thing to come from polls. Rand coming in so much higher would be proof of media fixing.