RP needs to replace the amatuers running his campaign

Ron Paul has gone from a complete unknown to the biggest thing on the internet. He has over 30,000 meetup members and his campaign grows everyday.

Dr Paul likes to give us all the credit and many of us take it and pat ourselves on the back but if you think the people running the campaign don't have anything to do with it your crazy. Dr Paul is not the first libertarian leaning republican to ever run for office.

If anything the people running his campaign need to be thanked. They have spent wisely and the message is growing. Dr Paul is now in perfect position to go after NH. The people running his campaign are teh reason why
 
where is the attack?

what concerns me more than the non-effort in iowa is the weakness of the ads.

REPEAT: If RP does not laaunch blistering attack ads, he will have no chance.

thats the truth. Deal with it.
 
Rove's available and a Texan.

And a neocon.

And a statist.

And a glad-hander

And a power junkie.

And a...well, you get the idea.
 
RP did exactly what he needed to do in Iowa: decent showing with almost nothing spent.

It is the grassroots campaign - US - that fell down on the job.
 
One of the primary things that makes me like Ron Paul so much is his integrity. I'd think much less of him if he got involved too heavily in the mud-slinging.

I may be an extreme minority on that, but just about all the RP supporters I know personally feel the same way.
 
It sure would be nice to pull in the Tancredo crowd in soon. Considering most Tancredoites would lean towards Paul rather than Romney, we coulda won the IA poll for sure.


I was in Iowa and i had many Tancredo people tell me Ron Paul was their second choice...some said they'd like a Tancredo/Paul ticket. Several Huckabee people told someone in our group that Paul was their second choice too.
 
dominic

dont think for a second that an RP supporter and average american boob are the same animal.


we are intellectual and free thinkers...they are sheep. Like it or not, the only way to win sheep is with emotion.

We need an ad with flag draped coffins and Bush joking in the background about we didnt find WMD's....(ever see that video?...disgusting)
 
what concerns me more than the non-effort in iowa is the weakness of the ads.

REPEAT: If RP does not laaunch blistering attack ads, he will have no chance.

thats the truth. Deal with it.

Nothing stopping you, Max, from launching your own "blistering attack ads."

A friend of mine (RIP, Granny B) had a bulldog named Max.

I always hated that damned dog...it slobbered everywhere and barked a lot.

:p
 
what concerns me more than the non-effort in iowa is the weakness of the ads.

REPEAT: If RP does not laaunch blistering attack ads, he will have no chance.

thats the truth. Deal with it.

Attack ads just give more attention to the person being attacked. There were a lot of attack ads aimed at Bush. Did that make him lose?

Ron Paul doesn't have enough name recognition yet, so any ads should focus on that.
 
It sure would be nice to pull in the Tancredo crowd in soon. Considering most Tancredoites would lean towards Paul rather than Romney, we coulda won the IA poll for sure.

Just hope we didn't chase them off in Iowa with the "I Smoke Pot and I Vote" signs, and by yelling at the bus riders about war.
 
Right now the stumbling block for Ron Paul is his unknown status. Negative adds don't really help there. They just knock down the other candidates. It would also be hard to choose the candidate to knock down at the moment. We don't really know the leader per se. Once Ron Paul is better known then maybe attack ads would be advisable.
 
give me a few million bucks

Nothing stopping you, Max, from launching your own "blistering attack ads."


If I had millions dont u think is run my own attack ads? Only HQ can do this but they havent got the balls.

Look, RP may be infallible when it comes to economics and the constitution....but this is about PR (something I happen to do for a living)

EMOTION IS WHAT SELLS....
 
No, I don't think it's their responsibility, it's their perogative. I don't pretend to be a political scientist, but the last time I watched a presidential ad was in 1983 (I was 8 and didn't know better). I'm doing what I can right here, right now. If we can organize to put ads on the air, then let's do it....but...I don't think any accusation of HQ staff is going to magically put attack ads on the air.

You are right though, I don't have the money to run an ad, but HQ does or course. Maybe they just don't have the time to make one....maybe you or someone else could work on that. Or compile a presentation regarding what markets would be best targeted and/or where we would get the most bang for the buck. Any of that would be helpful. Who knows, even if HQ doesn't use it, maybe we could...I envision one day, these forums will be moving so fast, you'll misplace your posts.

Also, I think we need to look beyond the TV, newspaper, or the Internet...marketing is going into very unusual realms, we need to tap into things like that. Product placement! Or we could go the V for Vendetta route and just blow things up.
 
Think carefully about who you are addressing

All of us here are amateurs supporting Ron Paul as we best know how. Do you suggest we all stop too Max?
 
This is why centralized control will never be as good as the marketplace. You don't need to worry about RPHQ. Just do your own thing. Get some friends together and make your own ads. Like Lord Xar (Even though he has been a prick to me lately), he does a good job with the ads. HQ is a small part of the whole operation. It is entirely up to you to make it work.
 
People who post this kinda drivel make me yawn. If you want to attack, then do it. There's plenty of avenues. Stop waiting on someone else to fight your battles for you.

In any event, aggression will never win. Yeah, Brownback's such a GREAT EXAMPLE, ain't he? Gimme a break.
 
One of the primary things that makes me like Ron Paul so much is his integrity. I'd think much less of him if he got involved too heavily in the mud-slinging.

I may be an extreme minority on that, but just about all the RP supporters I know personally feel the same way.

One person whom I catalyzed to search the Internet and watch a Ron Paul video to learn about him included this positive feedback about Ron Paul: "I noticed he didn't demonize anyone."

To some people, that is a plus.
 
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