No, he drew that analogy at a conference a few weeks before the convention (it's on Youtube)
No, it's for Republican proponents and sympathizers of the gay agenda (which is a big government agenda)
RP Coalition Railroaded At Oklahoma State Convention
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No, he drew that analogy at a conference a few weeks before the convention (it's on Youtube)
No, it's for Republican proponents and sympathizers of the gay agenda (which is a big government agenda)
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I didn't see any sign that the room was significantly more full after lunch than before. The room was full. They did go to some lengths to drag enough people in to outnumber us. I also think we weren't railroaded, though as I mentioned in another thread they used our refusal to be railroaded to their advantage for a while--they poisoned the wells against us by telling people we'd use delaying tactics. So, we were booed for refusing to be railroaded until people figured out that all we were doing is asking for debate. They softened up toward us at that point.
We expected the chairman to be very unfair toward us, but in fact he didn't do a bad job. P.S. There was some bad record keeping over delegates and some of us didn't have printed badges available for us. We were issued hand printed badges and there was some talk of not letting us vote. Where I was on the floor, however, everyone was allowed to vote who had a right to. Just goes to show that even if you have all you i's dotted and your t's crossed, they'll push the envelope where they can.
Basically, we needed more liberty minded people to go to the trouble to show up. That would have fixed everything. We operated under the name "Liberty Values Coalition" and we may well continue to do so for some time. We ain't done!
Our arrival hasn't been completely unwelcome. There are a few liberty minded Republicans in this state who have been active in the GOP for years sure are glad to see us. We can't get their hopes up and then abandon them!
We expected the chairman to be very unfair toward us, but in fact he didn't do a bad job. P.S. There was some bad record keeping over delegates and some of us didn't have printed badges available for us. We were issued hand printed badges and there was some talk of not letting us vote. Where I was on the floor, however, everyone was allowed to vote who had a right to. Just goes to show that even if you have all you i's dotted and your t's crossed, they'll push the envelope where they can.
Basically, we needed more liberty minded people to go to the trouble to show up. That would have fixed everything. We operated under the name "Liberty Values Coalition" and we may well continue to do so for some time. We ain't done!
Our arrival hasn't been completely unwelcome. There are a few liberty minded Republicans in this state who have been active in the GOP for years sure are glad to see us. We can't get their hopes up and then abandon them!
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I have to agree with acptulsa's assessment from what I experienced. Sure there were some questionable moments but they were usually called out and overall things were handled fairly (partly because folks stuck to their guns).
Was the convention railroaded? Yes, to a degree but mostly that degree was that we simply did not have the numbers to overcome the establishment.
Oh, certainly the waters were poisoned a bit against us. I heard 'oh, your one of those Ron Paul supporters' type derision on several occasions, but I also experienced welcome from others as well.
Initially our county chair (not a Paul supporter) was telling he would appreciate us supporting the Liberty Values slate. He was telling us so after us voting our own way at the district convention
But he and those of my county are very warm and good folks and have welcomed us. Was even told how we need some new 'rebels' as the older ones are fading.
But though things did not go perfectly for us I do not see it as a real loss. We that are new to being involved I believe learned a great deal. Armed with just a bit of experience just wait and see what our continued participation and growth will accomplish. It is alsonot irrelevant that we had at least 1/3 of the delegates there. Great work everyone and thanks for participating.
As others have stated many times though the way forward is to bring people together based on principles and not names. We certainly should continue to support Ron in his efforts as he will surely continue to support ours. It seems however that the way forward is to push our values and principles and not the Ron Paul name. Do not mistake me, I am not saying hide that we agree and support/ed Ron Paul only that this is not about him as he says himself.
We have a wonderful beginning for a new and productive coalition of liberty minded folk, let us continue our march.
Was the convention railroaded? Yes, to a degree but mostly that degree was that we simply did not have the numbers to overcome the establishment.
Oh, certainly the waters were poisoned a bit against us. I heard 'oh, your one of those Ron Paul supporters' type derision on several occasions, but I also experienced welcome from others as well.
Initially our county chair (not a Paul supporter) was telling he would appreciate us supporting the Liberty Values slate. He was telling us so after us voting our own way at the district convention
But he and those of my county are very warm and good folks and have welcomed us. Was even told how we need some new 'rebels' as the older ones are fading.But though things did not go perfectly for us I do not see it as a real loss. We that are new to being involved I believe learned a great deal. Armed with just a bit of experience just wait and see what our continued participation and growth will accomplish. It is alsonot irrelevant that we had at least 1/3 of the delegates there. Great work everyone and thanks for participating.
As others have stated many times though the way forward is to bring people together based on principles and not names. We certainly should continue to support Ron in his efforts as he will surely continue to support ours. It seems however that the way forward is to push our values and principles and not the Ron Paul name. Do not mistake me, I am not saying hide that we agree and support/ed Ron Paul only that this is not about him as he says himself.
We have a wonderful beginning for a new and productive coalition of liberty minded folk, let us continue our march.
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Same song, same tune and lyrics. 
Repeated how many times now, this season? Getting pretty bored and tired of it all now....... again. I gotta admire the continued surprise, naiveté, persistence and patience of the "faithful" statists though. 
( Hint: The "game" is rigged. )
Repeated how many times now, this season? Getting pretty bored and tired of it all now....... again. I gotta admire the continued surprise, naiveté, persistence and patience of the "faithful" statists though. ( Hint: The "game" is rigged. )
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