RonPaul.com asking $250K for the domain???

Bodhi said:
I believe what he is doing with RonPaul.com (not 100% sure) is frowned upon by ICANN and RP could file a UDRP and get the name for the cost of filling the UDRP which I think is in the neighborhood of $2,000 or so. From what I have read in the thread, the original owner was also named Ron Paul. He would have grounds to keep it as long as he did not associate it with "our" Ron Paul or make it a fan site that is not monetizing off of the Ron Paul's name.

In it's current use, that is a Ron Paul fan site that is profiting from Ron Paul's name, I don't think that is allowed. Fortunately for the owner, RP probably won't go after him, but I think he could. For example, you could not own the name MichaelJackson.com and have a MJ fan site that profit's from his name, you would be sued in an instant. Or say you had the name Tiger Woods and registered TigerWoods.com you could make a site for personal use, even for profit as long as it had nothing to do with Tiger Woods the golfer, but if you made it into a site selling golf clubs you could run into trouble.

Anyway, I think that is how it works, again I'm not 100% on that and I'm not a lawyer.

At least though, they are doing something good with the domain name and spreading the message. At the end of the day it is just free publicity. Looks like they are doing a good job on the site, so if RP is cool with it, more power to them. At the end of the day, I think RP is about spreading the message of Liberty, seems they are doing that.
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That's true, the commercial use might be frowned upon by a panel in a UDRP.

This is from a domain attorney:

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So, the bottom line is, a fan site may be defensible from attack in a UDRP proceeding, but only if a few guidelines are carefully observed in setting up the site. The further a registrant strays into commercial activity, the less likely it is that a UDRP panel will agree with the argument that the site is making fair use of the trademark.

http://bretmoorelaw.com/2011/08/fan-sites-the-udrp/
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sailingaway said:
Yeah, I could see Ron thinking some price was worth it, but I don't see where $250,000 is remotely in that range. Ron can come up with another EASILY REMEMBERED url and make it big.
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IF the site is currently generating $5,000 a month(just throwing a number out there, it could be more, it could be less), what would the value of the domain be in your opinion?
 
It's totally fair, it's his and he can charge for it.

On the other hand, I would give it to Paul as I Kind of feel I owe him and he has earned it.

Part of Paul's message is one of selflessness and generosity, and I would also want to take the opportunity to show in my deeds just how much that message has inspired me.
 
so what? they did a good service for ron for FREEEEEEE!!! id hate for someone to call me out if i decided to get rid of my ron paul youtube page after ive busted my ass for 6 years promoting liberty.

lew is dead wrong here and im ashamed of him. these people have a great site from what ive seen and i see nothing wrong with the price. even a 5 million, its their page to sale as they want. id just hope they check into whom ever buys it and it doesnt get into the wrong hands. even at that, all one can do is trust.

years ago during the early years of the net (late 90s) a fan of The Undertaker grabbed that domain name cause he liked the wrestler. the wwf then threatened the guy with legal action until he caved and GAVE it over to them. very sad and wrong imo.
green73 said:
Writes Lew Rockwell:
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itshappening said:
They have built an awesome website there. 250k is a lot of money but i am sure something can be worked out .

If the Mises institute is involved that is good to hear because I would trust Lew Rockwell to run it and to keep it active and registered on behalf of Ron.
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Not nearly as good as dailypaul or this one. 250K is definitely too much. With today's Google results, twitter, and youtube videos, it's very easy to get more traffic than a good domain name. Keeping a domain registered and active costs less than $10 a year, so anybody who wants to, can. The Ron Paul 2008 campaign was foolish to let ronpaul2008.com expire.
 
Bodhi said:
When did that happen?
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I remember in 2008 there was an effort to acquire it. The guy who previously owned it was "Ron Paul consultant" or something and had a basic webpage up. He was getting loads of traffic and inquiries and decided to put it on ebay where the current owners purchased it for $25,000
 
Tpoints said:
Not nearly as good as dailypaul or this one. 250K is definitely too much. With today's Google results, twitter, and youtube videos, it's very easy to get more traffic than a good domain name. Keeping a domain registered and active costs less than $10 a year, so anybody who wants to, can. The Ron Paul 2008 campaign was foolish to let ronpaul2008.com expire.
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Don't underestimate the power of the domain, it's the best Ron Paul domain out there and it's already number 2 on google for "Ron Paul" and he's built an active community around it.

That said he is clearly using commercial activity beyond a normal fan site so if it ever went to arbitration he would have a tough time defending it.
 
itshappening said:
I remember in 2008 there was an effort to acquire it. The guy who previously owned it was "Ron Paul consultant" or something and had a basic webpage up. He was getting loads of traffic and inquiries and decided to put it on ebay where the current owners purchased it for $25,000
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Ok, that starts to make sense now. If they actually paid $25,000 for it, they'd want more than that if they sell it. But $250,000 is still way too much.
 
The bigger problem is RandPaul.com, that needs to be acquired by Rand right now before the same mistake is repeated.

It amazes me all the money the Paul's have spent on consultant's and they don't do the basics.
 
itshappening said:
Don't underestimate the power of the domain, it's the best Ron Paul domain out there and it's already number 2 on google for "Ron Paul" and he's built an active community around it.

That said he is clearly using commercial activity beyond a normal fan site so if it ever went to arbitration he would have a tough time defending it.
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If he can prove how much money he's made off of it, that's another story. Until then, it might as well be $2.5M. But yeah, that's his Catch 22 so to speak, if he says he's made money off of it, arbitration would probably hurt him, if he can't show he's made money off of it, he can't justify the price tag.

You have a point. I take some of it back. I'm surprised RonPaulforums.com isn't on the first page of Google for Ron Paul, or paul.house.gov isn't either.
 
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itshappening said:
The bigger problem is RandPaul.com, that needs to be acquired by Rand right now before the same mistake is repeated.

It amazes me all the money the Paul's have spent on consultant's and they don't do the basics.
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Doug is too busy with more important things! His campaign would rather sue the anonymous youtube user.
 
sailingaway said:
if RonPaul.com bought all those others and has them all pointing towards ronpaul.com, that's a lot of authority on the internet, as I understand it.
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I believe the pointers themselves have to have some authority, otherwise that would be too easy.
 
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