Ron Threatens Independent Run Tonight. An Offer Mitt Can't Refuse

There's no way in hell that RP would run as VP, especially with someone named after a baseball glove.

'If' the GOP does jump to Romney "in a major way" (I really have no idea what that means) then RP is as done as everyone else. He won't run as a third-party candidate, even if he did, he would lose and so would Romney--then you will being saying President Clinton for the next four-years... ugggg

I'm supporting RP 100% and no one else, if RP loses I'm not voting. I'm an anarchist at heart, but there's something special about that old man that I can't describe.
 
Reality is this... So many people will write-in Ron Paul if he doesn't get the nomination and doesn't run third party, that unless Ron Paul wins the nomination, the Republican party has zero chance of winning. And they know it. That's why he was asked the question tonight. The GOP is genuinely scared. It's Ron Paul as the Nominee or a Dem in the White House. There is no other possible scenario.

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Ron Paul is the only candidate that has a snowball's chance to defeat a democrat for president because of the war issue. No pro-war candidate can win.

The anti-war sentiment is very strong. The democrats are outpolling the republicans by a far margin. This will carry over to the presidential election, probably more so.

The Bush-Cheney crew has left a taste so bad in America's mouth that any republican that even has the slightest taint of neo-con will be ripped to shreds in a national election.

Ron Paul has to win the nomination. Anyone else and it will be a Ronald Regan vs. Walter Mondale type of slaughter, except this time the democrats will be the ones leading the slaughter.

I think some on here underestimate the sheer loathing of the "Republican" title that has developed over these past years. I should know. I was a Democrat until Ron Paul. The stigma out there right now, even in moderates, is that we cannot have another Bush-Cheney in the white house. If that means voting democrat then so be it.

In a lot of people's minds, anything is better than Bush and the Republican name is associated with that. Unfortunate but true. The other candidates cater to his policies, a.k.a political suicide. Any republican candidate is going to spending ALOT of time just trying to undo that damage (but they won't because they believe in it). Ron Paul is unique in that, he never really supported any of his policies. He is the anti-Bush of the crew, and that would give him an advantage as he is more anti-Bush than even the democrats are.

This is just my opinion though. But realistically there is no way any republican can win the presidency unless that republican is Ron Paul.

That still does not sway my dedication. In the event that Ron Paul loses the nomination, I will still be writing him in.

~X~

Regarding the bolded section... why doesn't Dr. Paul say as much during the debates...? why doesn't he say that people need to make some choices... they can either be for the war and thus for our country going into a major major recession because 1trillion dollars a year is being spent over seas instead of here at home....

Or..

They can decided that we have done all that we could possibly do in Iraq and that its time for our troops to come home and its time to go back to our conservative, limited govn't, pro-liberty roots and essentially save this country from the financial ruin we're heading towards..

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Why can't he just say something like that? Literally, ask the people to make a choice.. because everyone else up there is for more of the same
 
ROMNEY HATES ron paul... and ron paul supporters should HATE romney...

and hate is a very strong word
Romney's comments about Ron have been flat out disgusting. I remember in the last debate he purposefully mistated that Ron Paul supports illegal immigration.

What a lying a$$clown.
 
yep

Ron Paul is the only candidate that has a snowball's chance to defeat a democrat for president because of the war issue. No pro-war candidate can win.

The anti-war sentiment is very strong. The democrats are outpolling the republicans by a far margin. This will carry over to the presidential election, probably more so.

The Bush-Cheney crew has left a taste so bad in America's mouth that any republican that even has the slightest taint of neo-con will be ripped to shreds in a national election.

Ron Paul has to win the nomination. Anyone else and it will be a Ronald Regan vs. Walter Mondale type of slaughter, except this time the democrats will be the ones leading the slaughter.

I think some on here underestimate the sheer loathing of the "Republican" title that has developed over these past years. I should know. I was a Democrat until Ron Paul. The stigma out there right now, even in moderates, is that we cannot have another Bush-Cheney in the white house. If that means voting democrat then so be it.

In a lot of people's minds, anything is better than Bush and the Republican name is associated with that. Unfortunate but true. The other candidates cater to his policies, a.k.a political suicide. Any republican candidate is going to spending ALOT of time just trying to undo that damage (but they won't because they believe in it). Ron Paul is unique in that, he never really supported any of his policies. He is the anti-Bush of the crew, and that would give him an advantage as he is more anti-Bush than even the democrats are.

This is just my opinion though. But realistically there is no way any republican can win the presidency unless that republican is Ron Paul.

That still does not sway my dedication. In the event that Ron Paul loses the nomination, I will still be writing him in.

~X~

as a former ralph nader voter due to his anti-corporate control of the political system policies i understand and am familiar with the ABSOLUTE hatred that lefties have for bush. therefore Dr. Paul is the best chance we have to defeat the dem's. there should be NO compromise though with the warmonger candidates. Ron Paul or Die!!
 
Amazingly, I would vote for that ticket. Not because of Mitt, just because RP is on it. I hate to admit it, but for some reason I hate Mitt the least our of all the republican candidates. Perhaps it is because my dad is a Mitt supporter and we have been battling back and forth over the past several months.

Not that it will matter once RP wins the brokered convention.

Andy
 
Why couldn't RP ask Mitt to be HIS VP? think about it.

If Mitt declines, RP goes independent and Mitt loses, hands down. he receives nothing and wastes tens of millions of dollars.

If he agrees, he gets to be part of the winning ticket. RP is fairly old, so he may or may not get to run for a second term if he wins the presidency. After 4 years as the VP, Mitt would be closely associated with the administration that restores America onto the right track, and he would be able to run for president himself, and most likely win. Hopefully by then he will have learned a thing or two and run the country correctly, according to Ron Paul's principles.

Mitt is a smart man, and a very good businessman. He has to realize what the true nature of the situation is. He knows he can't win anything this election as long as Ron Paul is running, unless he agrees to become part of Ron's team. The most that Mitt can possibly win is in this election is a VP slot, and ultimately the presidency in 4 or 8 years.
 
Why couldn't RP ask Mitt to be HIS VP? think about it.

If Mitt declines, RP goes independent and Mitt loses, hands down. he receives nothing and wastes tens of millions of dollars.

If he agrees, he gets to be part of the winning ticket. RP is fairly old, so he may or may not get to run for a second term if he wins the presidency. After 4 years as the VP, Mitt would be closely associated with the administration that restores America onto the right track, and he would be able to run for president himself, and most likely win. Hopefully by then he will have learned a thing or two and run the country correctly, according to Ron Paul's principles.

Mitt is a smart man, and a very good businessman. He has to realize what the true nature of the situation is. He knows he can't win anything this election as long as Ron Paul is running, unless he agrees to become part of Ron's team. The most that Mitt can possibly win is in this election is a VP slot, and ultimately the presidency in 4 or 8 years.

He is smart but not that smart. Plus, he is ahead right now. He wants to win the whole pot, not the second prize.
 
He said once he would only consider it if the candidate came around to his view of foreign policy.

Honestly if it can't be Ron I'd rather Romney than any of the others. He does already have a lot of his own money, and he flip flops all over so he will probably just stick with public opinion. At least I don't think he's evil like mccain or a religious freak and/or con artist like huckleberry.
 
The only way I'd vote for that ticket is if Hillary were on the other side, and even then I'd have to think carefully. Romney came off OK in today's debates but in general I can't stand him. He's textbook evil.

That said, I can't see Romney choosing him. He'd probably take Chucklebee, who appeals to southerners, Evangelicals, and people who are taken in by his "Aw, shucks" routine. They're a far larger population than RP supporters.
 
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Ron Paul is the only candidate that has a snowball's chance to defeat a democrat for president because of the war issue. No pro-war candidate can win.

The anti-war sentiment is very strong. The democrats are outpolling the republicans by a far margin. This will carry over to the presidential election, probably more so.

The Bush-Cheney crew has left a taste so bad in America's mouth that any republican that even has the slightest taint of neo-con will be ripped to shreds in a national election.

Ron Paul has to win the nomination. Anyone else and it will be a Ronald Regan vs. Walter Mondale type of slaughter, except this time the democrats will be the ones leading the slaughter.

I think some on here underestimate the sheer loathing of the "Republican" title that has developed over these past years. I should know. I was a Democrat until Ron Paul. The stigma out there right now, even in moderates, is that we cannot have another Bush-Cheney in the white house. If that means voting democrat then so be it.

In a lot of people's minds, anything is better than Bush and the Republican name is associated with that. Unfortunate but true. The other candidates cater to his policies, a.k.a political suicide. Any republican candidate is going to spending ALOT of time just trying to undo that damage (but they won't because they believe in it). Ron Paul is unique in that, he never really supported any of his policies. He is the anti-Bush of the crew, and that would give him an advantage as he is more anti-Bush than even the democrats are.

This is just my opinion though. But realistically there is no way any republican can win the presidency unless that republican is Ron Paul.

That still does not sway my dedication. In the event that Ron Paul loses the nomination, I will still be writing him in.

~X~

Being a democrat, I agree 100% with this. With my friends I can say "He's about as much of a republican as I am." They get how ironic that is. It's harder to explain to strangers :(
 
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It would never be allowed. The same people who control the Republican Party control the Democratic party. It makes no difference which party wins, only that it is one of the Establishment candidates that are the annointed "frontrunners" in both parties. It's only the average Republican who fears Ron splitting the Republican vote allowing a Democrat to win. They are in the same trap as those who place all their faith in the Democratic Party. The top levels of both parties are on the same team.

And now I don't have to say it. Thank you.
 
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