Ron Paul's stance on Peak Oil?

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[constituent]

According to Greg Palast in Armed Madhouse there is masses of oil. Mind you the way people make pigs of themselves over certain resources (Top Pig: USA) it doesn't help. How often do we stop and ponder, while our pump is on FILL, on the number of people murdered by Big Oil and live in war-torn mayhem so we can do wheelies down mainstreet?

The cost of grain has gone up 130% in the last 12 months. Philippinos can't afford rice anymore. It is being exported elsewhere. Haiti riots. Dear Lord. What a mess.

imo, the oil wars are to reduce the number of wheelies we can do down main street.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Yes liquid fuel is a problem for now. But I think it won't be long until everyone will be making the switch to driving electric cars. If you don't know anything about it you should look for it, because the performance is way better then any other car except for range which is still stuck around 200 miles. Btw i'm just throwing a number but i think that's about it. And when that happens we will need to increase the electric grid enormously and I'm just wondering how this is all going to happen without a depression that will last for two decades. It's clear that with going bio fuel you link the oil price with the food price which without governments subsidies would be a free market phenomenon but still unethical in my view. I think that wind and solar will be ready to combat the declining oil production and the rising world demand within twenty years but until then the only solution i can think of is nuclear. I just hope governments will open their eyes and see that. (In Belgium they are thinking about closing all our seven nuclear reactors generating a big chunk of our electricity supply, those morons). The only other major sustainable form of energy is hydro-electricity but only in china that still seems to have a future. Nations like the US, Canada, Brazil and Russia are probably at their peak regarding that source.

Where does the energy for electric cars come from? Burning fuels like coal and natural gas. China is consuming tons of coal and look at what is happening to their air quality. Solar and wind productivity depend on availabity of both (as well as technology to reduce their costs). Winds come and go except in limited locations. The most viable, consistant source is probably nuclear. Even it has the question of what do you do with the radioactive waste which can be "hot" for thousands of years but has the best potential to produce energy.

 

[Allen72289]

Our hydro has not been exhausted.

There are plenty of small creeks and rivers to be dammed however that won't happen until big government is gone.

All we would have to do is manage the fisheries etc. to counteract the dams.

The book I suggested provides detailed info on building your own hydro electric dam.

Nuclear is not cost effective because you have to store the waste for several hundred thousand years.

Electric cars waste 20-60% of the energy which is required to run them by simply transferring the electricity from the grid to the battery pack and then to the drivetrain.

On top of this you have 1000 or more pounds of extra weight and toxic batteries.

Most efficient vehicles will be extremely lightweight and highly efficient internal combustion engines.

 

[fatjohn]

Where does the energy for electric cars come from? Burning fuels like coal and natural gas. China is consuming tons of coal and look at what is happening to their air quality. Solar and wind productivity depend on availabity of both (as well as technology to reduce their costs). Winds come and go except in limited locations. The most viable, consistant source is probably nuclear. Even it has the question of what do you do with the radioactive waste which can be "hot" for thousands of years but has the best potential to produce energy.

Well a mix of nuclear, solar, wind, hydro and also coal and natural gas is way better then 100 percent gasoline don't you think. Even though wind and solar are growing exponentially i have to admit they are far from a major energy source yet. But nuclear has enormous potentials left but they arent used because of tsjernobyl. But issue of waste is really being exagerated. (although i'm not an expert, so perhaps i'm wrong) Cause it seems to me that there's always a sort of emphasis on the fact that it will last for thousands of years. Technology will handle with that in the not so distant future, we just have to keep it safe for +- 100 years. And if technology won't be able to handle that? Well then technologic improvements tend to go so slow that the issue of nuclear waste won't be the only thing that will kill us i guess.

 

[Matt Collins]

This book dispells Peak Oil Theory and is an EXCELLENT read!!!
I HIGHLY recommend it!

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Experts estimate that Americans consume more than 25 percent of the world's oil but have control over less than 3 percent of its proven oil supply. This unbalanced pattern of consumption makes it possible for foreign governments, corrupt political leaders, terrorist organizations, and oil conglomerates to hold the economy and the citizens of the United States in a virtual stranglehold. There is no greater proof of this than the direct relationship between skyrocketing gas prices and the explosion of wealth among those who control the world's supply of oil.

In Black Gold Stranglehold, Jerome Corsi and Craig Smith expose the fraudulent science that has made America so vulnerable: the belief that oil is a fossil fuel and that it is a finite resource. This book reveals the conclusions reached by Dr. Thomas Gold, a professor at Cornell University, in his seminal book The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels (Copernicus Books, 1998) and accepted by many in the scientific community that oil is not a product of fossils and prehistoric forests but rather the bio-product of a continuing biochemical reaction below the earth's surface that is brought to attainable depths by the centrifugal forces of the earth's rotation.
Jerome Corsi explores the international and domestic politics of oil production and consumption, including the wealth and power of major oil conglomerates, the manipulation of world economies by oil-producing nations and rogue terrorist regimes, and the shortsightedness of those who endorse expensive conservation efforts while rejecting the use of the oil reserves currently controlled by the U.S. government.


As an expert in tangible assets, Craig Smith provides an understanding of the history of America's dangerous dissociation of the dollar with precious—and truly scarce—metals such as gold and the devastation that would be inflicted on the U.S. economy if Middle Eastern countries are able to follow through with current plans to make the euro the standard currency for oil instead of U.S. dollars.
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[kyleAF]

Nuclear isn't bad, but it may be peaking soon too.

Not all fuel is created equal, and standard reactors are only so efficient. Plus, it takes a lot of time, and MASSIVE amounts of energy to create one. Breeder reactors would work far better, but they produce weapons grade fuel as a byproduct, so it's a very high security threat to have a lot of them sitting around.

We use a LOT of energy (many quads each year), and nuclear is certainly no panacea. We need to increase the efficiency of solar power capture. We need to follow nature's design for our own purposes.

 

[Fox McCloud]

Nuclear isn't bad, but it may be peaking soon too.

Not all fuel is created equal, and standard reactors are only so efficient. Plus, it takes a lot of time, and MASSIVE amounts of energy to create one. Breeder reactors would work far better, but they produce weapons grade fuel as a byproduct, so it's a very high security threat to have a lot of them sitting around.

We use a LOT of energy (many quads each year), and nuclear is certainly no panacea. We need to increase the efficiency of solar power capture. We need to follow nature's design for our own purposes.

on the plus side, we could ramp up nuclear weapons production again, which I really wouldn't mind seeing happen.

 

[fatjohn]

on the plus side, we could ramp up nuclear weapons production again, which I really wouldn't mind seeing happen.

Are you joking? I hope you are...
Anyway FYI there are also possibilities to cope with the wind and solar storage problem. Like for instance using the energy to put an abandoned gas field under pressure and releasing the pressure, turning it into electricity when the demand is higher.
Or by pumping up water to a certain height and use that to get electricity again. These types of storage are certainly not beneficial to efficiency but there are ways.