Ron Paul's official comments on "voter fraud"

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New Hampshire Recount?

After a careful investigation, I have decided against seeking a recount in New Hampshire. I am confident that not asking for a recount is the right decision.

I carefully considered the arguments for and against a recount before instructing my campaign staff not to pursue it. Without a firm belief that vote fraud had taken place, and without the possibility that a recount would have increased the chances for success of our campaign, a recount would have diverted campaign resources, time, and energy away from crucial battles elsewhere.

We have taken concerns about vote fraud seriously. In Iowa, campaign volunteers carefully monitored the caucuses. Campaign staff placed Paul supporters in every precinct to watch and verify the voting and count. We had supporters phone in results from their precincts to a campaign hotline while others ensured that those numbers were reflected on the official display board at the Polk County Convention Center. The numbers our caucus watchers reported agreed with the official tally, and both results also aligned with the campaign’s internal polling. In relatively pro-Paul counties, our sampling pegged support at 11.5%. This is consistent with an overall 10% finish for the entire state.

In New Hampshire, while I would have hoped for a better result than eight percent, I am convinced that vote fraud played no role in this result. Rumors of vote fraud were investigated, and in the end they proved to be the result of errors in early media reports that were not reflected in the official numbers. In one notable case, when a campaign staff member contacted an individual who had on the evening of January 8 claimed that his vote had not been counted, the person said that he had made a mistake and that the next morning the error in reporting on a newspaper website had been corrected both in the media and -- most importantly -- in the official tally.

Many have expressed concerns that those ballots counted by machine yielded a 2% lower total than those counted by hand. However, machine counted vote totals were more than 2% lower for both John McCain and Mike Huckabee. Hand counted votes were more likely to be cast in rural areas. Results almost always vary between urban and rural areas.

My campaign staff and I have analyzed the numbers in New Hampshire and I have reached the conclusion that it was the high turnout -- not vote fraud or counting errors -- that left us with eight percent of the vote. Our total vote count of over 18,000 votes was well within what we projected given the efforts of our extensive statewide get-out-the-vote program, giving me no reason to believe that vote fraud played any role in the results of the Granite State’s primary.

In both Iowa and New Hampshire there is much to be proud of. Taking both states together, I am honored that over 30,000 people cast their vote for me -- more than either Rudy Giuliani or Fred Thompson. Unlike many other candidates’ efforts, our campaign for freedom is growing and our message is spreading.

Now is the time to redouble our efforts. Our resources must be spent on the upcoming primaries and caucuses, and on ensuring that, with your help, we organize every state yet to vote with our Precinct Leaders program.

We can't win primaries and caucuses that have already happened -- but we can win those yet to come. To become the Republican presidential nominee, a candidate must have 1,191 delegates. Iowa, Wyoming and New Hampshire determine only 32 delegates, so we have much opportunity remaining.

Today, I ask you to join me in focusing on the battles ahead as we continue our fight for liberty and our Constitution.

Sincerely,

Ron Paul
 
This seem to have been posted well after it was clear that anoter GOP candidate was going to ask for a recount, so it is easy to sound like they guy that trust in the system (like the majority does)
 
wth?!

They had volunteers in every precinct in IA verify the counts? Reports from supporters here on the boards indicate other wise...
 
Ron Paul would destroy his campaign with talk of voter fraud, unless he had compelling evidence.

Had there been people in New Hampshire willing to sign legal affidavits claiming voter fraud, then this might have been a good idea. Without that it wasn't.

I'm still glad that other candidates are doing it though.
 
Although I'm still somewhat suspicious about the possibility of dirty tricks, I'm satisified with the good Doctor's statements.

Further! Onward!

I went out today and canvased my town and introduced quite a few peole to Ron Paul's message of freedom.

We have over 200 in our Meetup now and at least 50 of us are active.

My message to all of you is don't let the machine get you down and discouraged.


This is our ravolution. In the first they left bloody footprints in the snow behind them. What are you willing to do?
 
How many times has RP gotten elected? Hmm a lot.


How many times have we gotten ourselves elected? Let me see, there was that time I ran for president, and state senate, ah yes zero.

Let's listen to Doctor Paul people =)
 
well played. our eyes must remain open. my greatest disappointment comes from how many people here attacked anyone for suggesting vote fraud. i am still convinced it happened and is a high risk of happening again, and not entirely convinced that RP believes that it didn't happen. but the recount will happen anyway so this is a good strategy as there is much work to do.
 
High turnout problem? I think not.

Pardon me for asking, my poor IQ fails me. What does Dr. Paul mean by "high turnout"?

"My campaign staff and I have analyzed the numbers in New Hampshire and I have reached the conclusion that it was the high turnout -- not vote fraud or counting errors -- that left us with eight percent of the vote."

Seems to me that there is a fundamental that is amiss.

The lack of an official message similar to that below IMHO, is the ROOT CAUSE of failure in New Hampshire.

Disprove it if you can.

* * * * *

'If I am elected President, I shall prohibit the CIA from meddling in other countries' political processes. But, I shall refocus the CIA towards hunting down our attackers on 9/11 - who are still very much alive despite trillions of dollars spent on the Wars and thousands of American soldiers killed or maimed.

Hunting down terrorists is a job for spies. Not the military.

Because we were attacked by terrorists on 9/11, as President it will be my solemn duty to bring these terrorists to justice, as required by our Constitution".


If Dr. Paul does NOT put out an ad to this effect, we will find it VERY DIFFICULT to beat McCain (and the rest) moving forward.
 
wth?!

They had volunteers in every precinct in IA verify the counts? Reports from supporters here on the boards indicate other wise...

That's because there are a lot of knee-jerkers here who want to slander the official campaign at every opportunity they get.
 
That's because there are a lot of knee-jerkers here who want to slander the official campaign at every opportunity they get.

The referenced reports had nothing to do with "slandering the official campaign". They were about concerns that procedural improprieties might be missed in Iowa because not all precincts had count verifiers. These posts conflict with the official reply. That is the issue - not slandering.
 
Guys guys...... Listen up ok.

1. Ron Paul would cause Huge BLOWBACK on this campain if he was to start making waves about Vote Fraud.

2. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for Ron Paul to Jump on his own sword When there are already 2 other people who have initiated a recount.

3. It would serve no purpose whatsoever for Ron Paul to go on the record as stating he thinks the Vote was wrong. It would only serve to HURT him at this critical point in time.

4. If anything i think we should be thanking Mr.Howard, and Mr.Kucinich for doing the dirty work for us.

5. A couple posts up there is a mention of "Knee jerkers" .. Think Carefully people, Think about who we are facing. Who the Enemy is.. Do you seriusly think they would not create acounts here to spy on us ? Do you really think that they would not do everything in their power to cause as much mistrust and mayham as they could?

6. The Majority of the other candidates have proved many times they have no problem lieing, slandering etc ..

So .. Please please be aware that not everyone on these forums is a Ron Paul supporter.. Be aware that some of them are here to spy and cause trouble any way they can.

Cheers
Dave
 
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