Ron Paul Youtube video count down nearly 600,000 since last month

[RebeccaCee]

I love your sig!

 

[Kludge]

Google (Youtube) is constantly tweaking their search algorithms to least impact their servers and provide the most relevant search results.

What would be more concerning is if people who posted Ron Paul videos had their accounts deleted without reason. There are also totally unrelated reasons account Youtube accounts are taken down. I posted the Matt Collins Truffle Shuffle video nearly half a year ago while marking it private so it wasn't publicly searchable but had my entire account threatened a few months ago because "someone" filed a formal privacy rights complaint against me.

Fwiw, I just searched "Ron Paul" and was given 185k results. Notice that if you change how the results are sorted, that number fluctuates. For example, searching by date, I'm presented with 24.5k videos. Searching by view count lists 15.4k results.

Instead of futily fighting Google on this, we should be informing people that Youtube search result count is a meaningless figure.

 

[BUSHLIED]

I get 173,000 results when I search for ron paul in youtube

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Instead of futily fighting Google on this, we should be informing people that Youtube search result count is a meaningless figure.

It's free press! - how about telling them they need to use a consistent methodology.

I think this is probably more what's going on:

http://www.youtube.com/t/video_id_about

YouTube Video Identification Beta

Thanks to the continued cooperation of content owners large and small, YouTube is able to develop, test, and implement increasingly effective content management tools. Today, we are proud to launch, in beta form, our latest innovation in online video: YouTube Video Identification.

Like our other content policies and tools, YouTube Video Identification goes well above and beyond our legal responsibilities. And like those other tools and policies, Video Identification aims for three main goals: accurate identification, choice for copyright holders, and a great user experience.
Identification

YouTube Video Identification will help copyright holders identify their works on YouTube. We have worked with Google to develop one-of-a-kind technology that can recognize videos based on a variety of factors. As its Beta status indicates, our Video Identification is brand-new, cutting-edge stuff, so we will be constantly refining and improving it. Early tests with content companies have shown very promising results. As we scale and refine our system, YouTube Video Identification will be available to all kinds of copyright holders all over the world, whether they want their content to appear on YouTube or not.

No matter how accurate the tools get, it is important to remember that no technology can tell legal from infringing material without the cooperation of the content owners themselves. This means that copyright holders who want to use and help us refine our Video ID system will be providing the necessary information to help us recognize their work. We aim to make that process as convenient as possible.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6156931-7.html
NBC blasts Google's YouTube over copyright

More trouble for Google's video darling YouTube. The new chief executive of NBC Universal criticized Google and YouTube for dragging their feet on deploying technology to protect copyrighted material that gets posted to the site on a daily basis by avid fans.

Google has the ability to block pornography and hate speech and does so, Zucker told reporters Tuesday, his first day on the job, The Financial Times reported.

"YouTube needs to prove that it will implement its filtering technology across its online platform. It's proven it can do it when it wants to," he said. "They have the capability. The question is whether they have the will."

After being asked to pull NBC content from the site last summer, YouTube reached a deal with NBC under which NBC would post promotional clips from The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and Saturday Night Live.

Google was widely rumored to be negotiating content deals with traditional media companies after it agreed to a acquire YouTube last October for $1.65 billion in stock. But things are taking longer than expected, prompting media companies to take action.

Last week, Viacom demanded that YouTube pull 100,000 video clips, which included snippets from The Colbert Report and other popular Comedy Central and MTV shows. YouTube was forced to remove Comedy Central clips in October, as well.

I have a feeling REAA and the liberal TV stations don't want to see Paul elected so fould flag his vids as infringing but leave Obama up. Also Obama is a attention whore and is frequently on TV every day. I'm not surprised his count has gone up.

Also, some sites rotate what is online to reduce the load on the search engine. YouTube may do this.

-t

 

[Brandon Todd Carr]

I'm pretty sure youtube video count is based on the search compared to the account you may or may not be on, and videos that were previously watched. A search for me on my account returns "About 201,000 results".

 

[smtwngrl]

I wasn't aware that the number of Ron Paul videos on youtube had gone down. But, a few weeks ago, I did a search for each candidate name.

All other numbers of videos for other candidates or potential candidates are a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket, compared to Ron Paul's number of videos.

 

[mpdsapuser]

The establishment is so pathetic. If Ron Paul is such a fringe candidate, why go through all the effort to eliminate his message? Let people make their mind up for themselves. Or maybe that's the problem? They don't want people thinking.

 

[Jim Casey]

The establishment is so pathetic. If Ron Paul is such a fringe candidate, why go through all the effort to eliminate his message? Let people make their mind up for themselves. Or maybe that's the problem? They don't want people thinking.

There needs to be a balance between thinking and judging.

 

[Diurdi]

The amount of hits displayed when you search in youtube is very much related to your account and fluctuates daily depending on how the search engine deemds videos to be "relevant" to your search words.

There's no conspiracy >_>

 

[civusamericanus]

Many different mainstream networks ran tech specials in 2007 and 2008 that compared Youtube video numbers.

Youtube is much larger four years later.

The numbers will be trumpeted much louder.

This does matter when this information goes out to tens of millions of viewers who think they are making informed decisions about who has actual grassroots enthusiasm.

Right now I'm not logged in and it shows 299,000 video's for Ron Paul, Palin's hitting 146,000, the next closest Republican is Romney with 6060 or roughly 2% of Ron Paul's count. This is not really as significant during the GOP primary, as it is in the general election. Regardless, Ron Paul has more video's to watch than all the other GOP'ers combined, so this is excellent, in the sense of getting out the message to the masses.

The one thing I'd watch is, if Ron Paul gets the GOP nomination, claims will arise of Obama being the MILLION youtube video king. When dealing with the general public, unlike us political junkies, it will most assuredly have an impact on the sleeping public.

Regardless of those who say this is not media manipulation, it's clear the reduction in Ron Paul video's is far more significant then any reduction Obama has received. We are talking about billion dollar companies that literally control the primary internet media manipulation. They know we're watching and documenting their activities, so they will simply use some lube while they're sticking it to us. Ron Paul will continue to have the largest number of GOP candidate video's, but when it comes to Obama, it will always be reduced by more then half. I hope they keep it up, it can only help our cause once it's exposed, regardless of how much they try to make it seem like a simple data clean up job, the public is going to simply see it as media manipulation.

Ron Paul now has enough popularity, that the enormous amounts of media manipulation against Ron Paul, may be the very BILLION dollar bullet that will allow RP to compete, with Obama's Billion Dollar Federal Reserve notes.

Sorry to ramble on, but media manipulation is a key subject which will help us defeat Obama. The very monster which they try to control may expose them. Think about it, the public loves stories of scammers, liars, and cheats getting exposed, the downside of course is so many have participated, it will be difficult to get it on the mainstream media, but if a video on the matter is put together well, and with an in depth analysis, LIBERTY could possibly become viral and get more hits than Justin Bieber's 578,600,876 views. So it's obviously worth the attempt to bring the whole media manipulation thing to light.

God knows, if we're going to save this Republic, LIBERTY will need to compete with Justin Bieber. It's sad that Liberty is less popular than kitty's going MEOW.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

I don't remember when private sites had to "play fair" at all. Is that a law somewhere to show equal amounts or not be able to remove anything from your own site? Is it just because it is a large site?

How many mitt romney posts are on THIS FORUM, where is his justice!!!! lol

come on, lets be productive with productive efforts.

youtube can add and remove whatever it wants and who really cares?

 

[civusamericanus]

I don't remember when private sites had to "play fair" at all. Is that a law somewhere to show equal amounts or not be able to remove anything from your own site? Is it just because it is a large site?

How many mitt romney posts are on THIS FORUM, where is his justice!!!! lol

come on, lets be productive with productive efforts.

youtube can add and remove whatever it wants and who really cares?

If it was RPF's or Average Joe's video's I could understand this being a waste of time, but we're talking about media monopolies controlling nearly the entirety of public opinion. I agree they can do whatever they want as far as managing the data on their sites, but we can also expose them.

As I said in the previous post, even if Ron Paul wins the GOP Primary, it will be nearly impossible to compete with Obama's billion dollar purse. So when the GENERAL PUBLIC finds out their being manipulated by monopoly media companies who are essentially deciding for them, they could rebel and join the cause of Liberty. When corporatism grows stronger than the Republic, it leads to fascism, Ron Paul has spoke extensively on this subject.

 

[KingRobbStark]

They took down videos with ton of views in 2008, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did again this time around.

 

[pacelli]

So why keep using it? Is there another alternative?

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

So why keep using it? Is there another alternative?

there are ALWAYS alternatives however in America everyone jumps on what everyone else has.

I remember when myspace was the shit, the all of a sudden I started see EVERYONE ON TV start using their facebook and twitter links verus myspace

it goes in waves BUT while they are huge they are still private companies right? They should be able to be as crooked and one sided as they choose.

Do you see any of us if we were in control of youtube making sure that romney and obama ads were shown just as much as ron paul ads? I know I wouldnt because MY COMPANY isn't democratic in the least it would be MINE.

Not that I like it, it is what it is.

there are enough of us who could promote up a liberty cam style site and make it HUGE. I wouldn't do a "ron paul video" type of domain but something more mainstream and marketable.

If you have never hosted sites though, running a BIG site like video sites takes crazy capital until you get money from either profit sharing, ads or whatever you setup.

If you build it, we will come.

 

[civusamericanus]

Here's the best we have right now for media bias against Ron Paul http://www.unfaircoverage.com. I'm surprised someone hasn't taken the information on RPF's and unfaircoverage.com, then compiled something with mass appeal and analytics. It would be nice to know someone was working on something to address the media bias. I'd bet Adam who did "For: Liberty" has all the video footage and more needed to get this project done.....