Ron Paul YouTube Channel - nearing the most subscribers

I know all about tor and proxy servers, but as far as the gov controlling the net... they are far from it.

They have a hard enough time trying to regulate Internet commerce let alone trying to control the free flow of information.

People can pretty much put up anything they want on any server anywhere in the world. It is beyond controllable. IF they try and control telecom services to block
the free-flow of information then creative individuals like myself will bypass ISP
services.

The Internet is too large and embedded to control.

- Dave
 
Yeah, they have been trying for years, but I seriously cannot see how they
could possibly control the net. Technology is zooming and its so easy to
network now. You can even network through electrical wiring, which is
exactly what will happen if they try and control telecom service.

Between electrical hops and wireless pops it would be impossible
to control the flow of information... especially encrypted information.

- Dave
 
MsDoodahs said:
I don't know that the state will be successful, but I still think they'll TRY.
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Absolutely- the government never openly says, "we're going to start regulating this because we don't think you can do it yourself." They say, "we're going to regulate it, but only for a small amount of people" - think about how income tax was only going to apply to the wealthiest of the wealthy. So they'll start by trying to remove porn from the interwebs (we already are hearing about that), and then go on to indecent sexual content, and then it will slowly and slowly become more and more intrusive. But I think that most people will see through it before it gains much traction.
 
Exactly, Phil M. And it'll go slowly, just like the erosion of other liberties has. Over time, things will become more and more controlled. Events may happen (like 9/11) that serve as catalysts for major steps forward in control. If you'd told someone 20 years ago that the patriot act would be passed, they'd probably react as MediaTruthNetwork has on this issue - with disbelief and denial.
Never let your guard down, not even for a moment.
 
Don't forget the recent attempt to make political "bloggers" websites register with the government, got shot down fast but it shows the mindset.

Some say that a move to "Internet 2" may include tighter control over giving out domain names. Basically if you don't follow the rules your whole site gets pulled. The government will provide jobs to hordes who monitor the internet- isn't this like what China does?
 
mdh said:
OK, now go to http://tor.eff.org/ and learn how you can use Tor and Hidden Services to make sure that you're never a victim of the enemies of freedom.
:cool:
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Looking at Tor makes me think about how the govt will go after the 'net. They will do it in the name of spam-control/commerce regulation on one side, porn on the other. "Reasonable people" -- when you hear the word "reasonable," grab on tight to your Constitution -- hate both. Then they will make a big deal of "domestic terrorists," blaming a shooting or such on a group organized on the 'net, and down the steep, slippery slope. It will be so easy to get 80% of the people to see the restrictions and required registrations as "reasonable."
 
Scribbler de Stebbing said:
Looking at Tor makes me think about how the govt will go after the 'net. They will do it in the name of spam-control/commerce regulation on one side, porn on the other. "Reasonable people" -- when you hear the word "reasonable," grab on tight to your Constitution -- hate both. Then they will make a big deal of "domestic terrorists," blaming a shooting or such on a group organized on the 'net, and down the steep, slippery slope. It will be so easy to get 80% of the people to see the restrictions and required registrations as "reasonable."
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Totally. This is basically the recipe for every anti-constitution government action in the past century. Tor is a great technology, and the people behind it, whom I know personally, are very libertarian minded. It's designed with us in mind.
 
"Tor is a great technology"

I was checking out there site but could not find out. Is it Vista Ultimate friendly?

I know I tried one like it before and it seemed like it did not work.
 
I would say don't bother, if you're using Vista. Vista implements DRM and monitoring at the OS-level, before Tor has a chance to encrypt the data.

For more Vista-related information and resources, read these sites... (I especially suggest Schneier - Bruce is one of the most respected and brilliant people in the cryptography community today)

http://badvista.fsf.org/
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/nsa_helps_micro_1.html
http://blognonymous.com/2007/01/windows-vista-nsa-edition.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/08/AR2007010801352.html
 
You Tube Statistics

Ron Paul at 5667
Obama at 5406

Only a gap of 261, versus 1503 when it was posted on Ron Paul's website.

Keep getting people to subscribe.
 
You got the numbers (but not the intention) backwards. Ron Paul is (now) at 5416.
 
He's at 5544 as of 5-19-2007.

Also, do you realize that Ron Paul has had that Youtube site up since March 2, 2007 and Barak has had it up since Sept 5, 2006. Barak is currently at 5673. Here are the stats:

Barak - 22.07 subscribers/day
Paul - 70.17 subscribers/day

Barak - 10993 Channel Views/day
Paul - 7902 Channel Views/day

We are a little behind on the channel views, but I think two things contribute to that. First, there isn't a lot of information about Barak Obama online that isn't on Youtube. He is a young congressman still. So I think people are going there often for more information about him. Ron Paul on the other hand has tons of info on him on a lot of sites. Second, Ron Paul just started on Youtube and until this past week hasn't gotten much press. Now he is and I think people will want more info on him.
 
He needs some more videos up there. How about his interview with Wolf Blitzer? His post-debate interview with (choke) Hannity and Colmes? How do we get these on there?
 
Has anyone e-mailed Ron and asked him to put up more youtube videos?

Also, if he's bogged down with everything he's involved with maybe someone can take over the youtube profile and upload things for him. There are a couple users online that really stay on top of all things Paul.
 
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