CNN exit polls show Ron Paul with a stunning 51% of independents and 42% for people not aligned with any religion. i know it's been said that that's a trend for paul supporters, but this is the first time those numbers have really shown through. now we can say for sure these people amongst the republicans are our primary targets - and there are more of them than you think
Ron Paul wins independents and non-religious
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wow, there must have been an EXCEEDINGLY small independent and/or nonreligious turnout.
EDIT: nevermind I thought i was on the SC forum, HEHE
EDIT: nevermind I thought i was on the SC forum, HEHE
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has anyone ever gone to atheist sites or anything and sent emails about ron paul to them?? they could help us spread this message via their sites. i'm an atheist but i know nothing of atheism online, maybe that could work if we get just one website owner stoked on ron paul.
I'm sorry, but this isn't a good sign. It is nice to own that group, but that group isn't going to deliver the base.
RP is a conservative Christian and strong pro-life advocate...yet he can't scratch the religious voting base, which is ENORMOUS in the republican party.
RP is a conservative Christian and strong pro-life advocate...yet he can't scratch the religious voting base, which is ENORMOUS in the republican party.
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naysayers always afoot
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You are so correct. 80% of the country consider themselves to be Christian.
I can't believe that this campaign or the grassroots has not figured out they could run one ad in AARP magazine which is the largest magazine on earth and grab the 55 and older vote.
At the same time there are 10 of the top Christian magazines according to google that ads could have been placed months ago. No one will win unless they can deliver the Christian and southern votes.
STFU. I'm far from a naysayer.
However in case you haven't checked the voting blocs in the republican primaries, the religious bent has a mighty, mighty big club to swing. That's why you see people like Gomer Huckabee winning Iowa and barely losing in SC.
McCain's abortion record is atrocious, yet the prolifers are voting for him. Without Thompson, there are now only two real pro-life candidates left in Huck Pyle and Ron. And he isn't getting those religious voters.
In order to WIN these things and get in the 30s and 40s and not the teens in voting percentages, those religious voters need to find themselves in Ron's camp sooner rather than later.
And as much as you may not like it, reaching out to the atheist community is not exactly the way to butter them up.
The non-religious group was 7% of the votes cast, and Dr. Paul got 42% of that. While nice, I'd much prefer he got 42 percent of the other 93%, because that = white house.
Nothing wrong with you or your support, and RP values your nonreligious freedom as well...which is as it should be.
I just don't think it is winning-minded to focus on reaching out hard to a smaller voting segment (7 percent in this NV election) when all he has to do is remind the voters that he is staunchly pro-life and a practicing Christian and half of the biggest group of voters could be eating from his hand.
This is the vote that I find the MOST perplexing...he is getting KILLED in the older voting demographic...the ones that remember gold-backed dollars and smaller government. The ones who should be more in tune with a return to constitutional values.
To me, it isn't the message there but a failure to get that message in front of them.
They're older voters. By definition, they don't "remember" much of anything. Except that they're the greatest generation, so we need to keep giving them stuff.
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Thats a great way to get support
I'm sure the comment was light hearted but with a little bit of truth added to it. A good percentage of the non-religious people I know tend to be more informed when it comes to politics compared to my religious friends.
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Yup.
We cannot win by taking votes from the Republicans.
They are ignorant and lost. Their party... the neo-con/values voter party is a husk.
We must appeal to the independent, the democrat, those who feel betrayed.
I don't think we're going to get anymore Republicans.
We cannot win by taking votes from the Republicans.
They are ignorant and lost. Their party... the neo-con/values voter party is a husk.
We must appeal to the independent, the democrat, those who feel betrayed.
I don't think we're going to get anymore Republicans.
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And posts like that are one reason why we aren't attracting more Christians, because there's so much bashing on this site of religious people, which guess what.... doesn't win over potential voters. THAT'S stupid, not to mention immature and prickish.
If it wasn't for my devotion to Ron Paul and the cause itself, I would've left this movement, because of people like you.
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This is the the truth that grieves me most. Ron's message does not jive with the Republican party. People can reminisce about the way things used to be, but the Republican party has been about War, Gays, Abortion and sycophantic patriotism for my whole life. I'll be blunt; The Republican party of my lifetime is disgusting.
I had to get over the fact that he was a Republican when I was learning about Dr. Paul. Most of the people my age, and especially those of the circles in which I travel, have a gag reflex to the word Republican.
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I'm a very active atheist. I stand up for my right not to believe ALL the time. Unless you aren't a Christian I don't think you can really understand how atheists and other religions feel when their rights are trampled.
I have tried to get the rest of the members of the non-believer organizations that I belong to in PA to vote for Ron Paul. The big problem is that Ron Paul has made several comments regarding the Sep. of Church & State that really are alarming to non-religious people.
And while atheists are always under counted, it is might be good for everyone here to know that if you break it down by denomination, atheists and non-believers (because some don't like the label "atheist") are the THIRD largest group.
Bald isn't a hair color, clear isn't a color, not collecting postage stamps isn't a hobby, and atheism is NOT a religion even though it is always put into context as such.
There are more atheists than there are Jews or Mormons.
Obama got a HUGE bump in popularity from the secular groups when he stated that non-believers have rights too. That was huge for us. Many people made the decision to vote for him because of that comment.
Most atheist Republicans jumped ship back when Bush Sr. said "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots."
Until a Republican candidate makes an effort to reach out non-believers, most of their votes are going to the Democrats. {sigh}
I keep trying to win them over though!
Regardless of religious belief or non-belief, Ron Paul is the best candidate BY FAR.
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I have tried to get the rest of the members of the non-believer organizations that I belong to in PA to vote for Ron Paul. The big problem is that Ron Paul has made several comments regarding the Sep. of Church & State that really are alarming to non-religious people.
And while atheists are always under counted, it is might be good for everyone here to know that if you break it down by denomination, atheists and non-believers (because some don't like the label "atheist") are the THIRD largest group.
Bald isn't a hair color, clear isn't a color, not collecting postage stamps isn't a hobby, and atheism is NOT a religion even though it is always put into context as such.
There are more atheists than there are Jews or Mormons.
Obama got a HUGE bump in popularity from the secular groups when he stated that non-believers have rights too. That was huge for us. Many people made the decision to vote for him because of that comment.
Most atheist Republicans jumped ship back when Bush Sr. said "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots."
Until a Republican candidate makes an effort to reach out non-believers, most of their votes are going to the Democrats. {sigh}
I keep trying to win them over though!
Regardless of religious belief or non-belief, Ron Paul is the best candidate BY FAR.
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