Ron Paul whooped ass on Hardball (video)

Ron Paul needs to stop saying "You're calling me a racist" and instead say: "Most of the segregation in the south was government enforced!"

Matthews was never implying Ron Paul is a racist, it was more along the lines that racism will run rampant in the south without anti-discrimination laws.
 
Holy smokes. This is an awesomely great sign. He's never been so polished.

Either he's learned though experience and practice or someone is coaching him.

I couldn't be happier about the fire he brought in that interview.

I must say however, that it wasn't near as polished as it could be. The questions that Matthews threw at him will keep coming, and Ron needs to have powerful 1 liner responses ready to go. It tended towards rambling a little too much, and the layman likely won't decipher the rambling to understand the principle Ron is espousing.

There is powerful economic theory behind the abolition of discrimination laws - you have the principle of property rights, but you also have economic law which states that in a free market, anyone engaging in discrimination of any kind would be severely and naturally penalized by the market not only for moral reasons, but based on simple supply and demand as well. Any capitalist that shrinks his customer base for any reason is necessarily forgoing potential profits and market share.

http://mises.org/daily/3261

I think the point needs to be raised as well, that drug laws simply don't work. Anyone that truly wants to consume heroin today is already doing it - and it's still illegal. Where there is a will, there is a way, and law matters little. All the horrible things people argue will happen when "legalizing freedom" would all be dealt with under Ron Paul doctrine - he's very strict about no man infringing on another man's rights sober or not, so if someone on heroin is endangering someone, they're locked up, if parent's are neglecting a child, they get locked up. It's such a fallacy to believe that Ron Paul's system is one of no penalties, and these people/interviewers need to be called out on it bluntly.

Great job with the fire Ron, and now let's focus that into a powerfully succinct delivery, and you're success in this campaign may just become unstoppable.
 
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Am I the only one that thinks if one saw that interview and didn't understand the reasoning behind a lot of his positions that it could be very polarizing and turn off some potential supporters?

I still think there is room for a great deal of improvement.
 
Am I the only one that thinks if one saw that interview and didn't understand the reasoning behind a lot of his positions that it could be very polarizing and turn off some potential supporters?

I still think there is room for a great deal of improvement.

When I first heard of Ron Paul, he said a lot of things I didn't understand (former neocon). It wasn't until I started listening to his rationales for his positions that I came around.

The same thing will happen here. Either people will be open-minded enough to follow up with Ron Paul and really make an effort to understand his positions, or they won't.

And if they won't . . . fuck'em. We can't wait around for them to pull their heads out of their asses.
 
I am happy to see that Ron Paul is taking an active and aggressive role in shaking off any racist image he might have.
 
Dr. Paul handled that very well. I'd like it if he could just reference a website that fully explains his views whenever it comes up. Kind of like Bush's factcheck reference during the '04 election. (Hopefully he'd get the site right, unlike Bush.) We can't expect much better responses on TV than what he did here.
 
Now thats the Ron Paul I like to see! Imagine if he was this charismatic everytime. ;)
 
Wouldn't it make more sense to tailor the delivery of the message? It's become pretty easy for me to see how it could turn people off, so I don't really subscribe to the notion of "If they don't see it, forget 'em." I think you could easily sway these people if the campaign understood how they receive information.

When I first heard of Ron Paul, he said a lot of things I didn't understand (former neocon). It wasn't until I started listening to his rationales for his positions that I came around.

The same thing will happen here. Either people will be open-minded enough to follow up with Ron Paul and really make an effort to understand his positions, or they won't.

And if they won't . . . fuck'em. We can't wait around for them to pull their heads out of their asses.
 
Good ending about it being a package deal. He needs to expand on that. I also like how he's starting to phrase the answers to questions about one extreme side of a freedom principle ("Heroin should be legal") with the less extreme side ("You should be allowed to drink raw milk if you want to."). That should be expanded upon as well, and can be part of the "package" theory.

"When I argue for freedom, it is all too easy to take one extreme end of the spectrum and dismiss the argument outright because that extreme is unpleasant to deal with. If I argue that individuals should be free to do anything that doesn't hurt another individual, the easy extreme to pick is heroin. "So heroin should be legal?" It is all too easy then to shy away from the argument, but I believe that those extreme examples are simply a part of the package, and I will defend the extremes as well. That doesn't mean I believe that the extremes are good for humanity, but it does mean that I will defend that extreme just as fiercely. Just like we should not demonize lawyers who, honoring our justice system which believes that even the guilty deserve representation, decide to defend someone accused of even the most heinous crimes, we should not demonize people who, in defending liberty in general, decide to defend liberty for even the extreme cases. Defending a murderer in court that not mean you condone murder. It means that you understand that in order for our society to remain just and fair for all, even those who would be thought undeserving of that justice and fairness should receive it. Even heroin, although a dangerous drug that can ruin someone's life, should have a defender in the court of public opinion, because once we deem heroin to not deserve that justice and fairness, then it becomes all too easy to also deny less harmful and possible even some beneficial sustances that same benefit. I apply this principle across the board, no matter how unpopular the viewpoint is. We all agree that the Holocaust was a terrible atrocity committed against the world in general and the Jews in specific. Yet we didn't just shoot the nazis responsible on sight. We captured them, tried them in court, and then punished them for their actions. We can all agree that the terrorist attacks against the world over the last few decades and against the United States in specific were terrible. I argue that the ideal response is to capture those responsible and properly try them in our court system. This allows us to maintain our principled freedoms while punishing those responsible for their heinous actions. One of the possibly most divisive issues is that of racism. An ugly blight on our human condition, where we judge an individual not on merit but on preconceived and wholly unmerited notions, and where we treat those individuals as lesser, denying them our friendship and hospitality. However, to accept that we should all be free to socialize with whomever we want is to also accept that we are free to choose to not socialize with certain individuals. To accept that racism, no matter how ugly, no matter how small, will always have at least some place in our society. Racism, like heroin, like murderers, and like terrorists, is on one extreme side of the spectrum. But no matter how unpopular, and no matter how indefensible, trying to outlaw it will inevitably lead to restrictions on freedom on the other side of the spectrum. And no matter how hard we try, we just won't be able to successfully remove these unwanted elements from our society, no matter how many laws we come up with, no matter how much money we throw at the problem, and no matter how many freedoms we are willing to sacrifice.

All I will ask is that when these extremes come up in a discussion, to not assume that if I do not argue that these extremes can be removed from our society by law, that that automatically means I must be in favor of their existence. We can agree that we should always try to minimize the negative effect that these extremes have on our society, but we should do so in the understanding that we just have a differing opinion on how to best accomplish this."
 
Ron Paul>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chris Matthews

Matthews keeps uttering "ok" while Paul is talking, as if to get him to stop. Matthews doesn't really want to listen to what Paul is saying.
 
Am I the only one that thinks if one saw that interview and didn't understand the reasoning behind a lot of his positions that it could be very polarizing and turn off some potential supporters?

I still think there is room for a great deal of improvement.

No, you're not. I always watch these interviews with a critical eye and try to think about what would happen if you showed the clips to 100 random people on the street. I know what Ron's saying, but he and his staff need to work on coming up with answers that are concise and will translate well to the average voter. The response to the heroin question in the SC debate was great because it was something that would make sense to someone who's never even heard of libertarianism. He needs a lot more of those moments.
 
This is a different Ron Paul, and I like it.
The early interviews in 08, he sometimes seemed surprised at some of the ridiculous MSM questions. Now he FIRES back solid answers, and seems unphased by this rapidfire approach that Mathews and other MSM bores have. As far as civil rights, I want to hear RP talk about the social pressures that have made the 64 civil rights act irrelevant.
 
The economy is crashing, gas is over $ 4, our debt has gone over 100% of gdp, and what does the msm spend ten minutes talking about? Heroin and CRA of 1964!
 
The only part missing was Ron Paul drop-kicking him and Chris Matthews giggling as he left Ron's foot and took flight.

Just kidding about that.^


P.S. It was really good to see Ron Paul stand up the way he did. I think the important thing is to try and get through to people in the little time that is left. The time for playing games is over.
 
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Wow, Ron's on fire! That last minute or so is epic:

"I think we'd be better off if we had freedom, and not government control of our lives, our personal lives, policing the world, and running the economy. We're facing a calamity because of that.

We have a financial crisis. We have a crisis in the foreign policy. We're losing thousands of people... hundreds of thousands are coming back sick because of our foreign policy. And we're at a point where we can not sustain this, and we're on the verge of runaway inflation because there's too much acceptance of big government. That is the problem.

No matter how noble you try to make it, your good intentions will not compensate for the mistakes that people make; that want to run our lives and run the economy, and reject the principles of private property and making up our own decisions for ourselves.
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He is much more confident and assertive this time around, I fucking LOVE it.

"Hey Chris let me FINISH!" ... wow that never happened in '07, '08.

GO RON!!!
 
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