Ron Paul was right on Cuba; Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum were dumb and dumber

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Ask a stupid question …

That’s what NBC’s Brian Williams did on the subject of Cuba in that Republican presidential primary debate Monday evening.

Here’s what Williams asked Mitt Romney:



There was a lot of talk in the last presidential campaign about that 3:00 a.m. phone call. Let`s say President Romney gets that phone call, and it is to say that Fidel Castro has died. And there are credible people in the Pentagon who predict upwards of half a million Cubans may take that as a cue to come to the United States.
What do you do?
What Romney should have said is, “Why the heck would the Cubans want to come here when the man who’s been oppressing them for half a century just died? I just wish I could go join the celebration in the streets.”

What he did say was forgettable. But Newt Gingrich promptly jumped in with an answer every bit as stupid as the question. He proposed to do the one thing that would keep Castro’s brother Raul in power. Gingrich proposed “using every asset available to the United States, including appropriate covert operations” to get regime change.

It is exactly that sort of ineffectual threat that has kept the Castros in power all these years. There’s a reason Castro shot down that “Brothers to the Rescue” plane at the exact moment relations between the U.S. and Cuba were improving. He needed the threat of American attacks to keep his police state in operation.

If Gingrich was dumb, Rick Santorum was even dumber. He said he’d keep sanctions in place even after both Castros were gone:



They should continue until the Castros are dead, and then we should make it very clear that if you want mountains of aid, if you want normal relationships, if you want to improve your economy, if you want to have the opportunity for freedom, that the United States stands ready now to embrace you now that you've gotten rid of these tyrants who -- who have controlled you for these 50-plus years. That's why the sanctions have to stay in place, because we need to have a -- a very solid offer to come forward and help the Cuban people.


Just who is the “they” in question here? If Santorum knew the first thing about the way the communist system works, he would realize that the people themselves have no power to make the sort of bargain he proposes. The Communist Party elite holds all the power. When Santorum uses the wording “you’ve gotten rid of the tyrants” he shows he has not the slightest inkling that the “you” he’d be negotiating with is made up of the very “tyrants” he’s denouncing.

Only Ron Paul had a sensible answer:

I don't know where you get this assumption that all of a sudden all the Cubans would come up here. I would probably think they were going to celebrate and they're going to have a lot more freedom if we would only open up our doors and say, we want to talk to you, and trade with you, and come visit.

Paul is exactly right, and I say that as someone who has studied Latin-American communism in both Cuba and Nicaragua. The reason the Sandinista Marxists could not maintain their hold during the 1980s is precisely because they couldn’t keep foreigners out – or their own people in. Anyone who drove from Nicaragua to Costa Rica in those days, as I did in 1987, would witness on one side of the border a military state rivaling East Germany’s with shortages of every conceivable consumer item. On the other side was a peaceful, prosperous state with stores overflowing with consumer goods.

As for Cuba, the people there have no way of comparing it to other countries for the simple reason that they can’t leave. But if we were to flood the place with American tourists, the regime simply couldn’t hold onto power. And believe me, people would flood in. Cuba is five times more fun than Florida, assuming of course you’ve got hard currency to spend.

And of course, anti-Castro Cubans could flood in as well. Castro himself never could have taken power without all the help he got from naïve Americans. Well, that works both ways. The island would be overrun with Americans who would be asking why the Cubans don’t have the same rights and privileges that we have.

The old-fashioned single-party state would survive for a while, but the elite would soon be corrupted by capitalism. Money talks, especially in Spanish. The Latin-Americans have a natural affinity for starting small businesses. Even now, many illegally open their homes to tourists as bed-and-breakfasts. The nice old couple I stayed with were glad to collect some hard currency in exchange for their spare room and a chicken dinner I still recall with great fondness.

Once all those small businesses spring up and the economy is open, just what is left of the Communist Party? During the darkest days of the regime, money was effectively outlawed. The people all worked for the government and got rations in return. Without that sort of control, the role of the party has to wither and die, in the exact manner Marx predicted for capitalism.

Only Ron Paul has confidence that capitalism will prevail. That should tell you all you need to know about the people running for president in the Republican Party these days.



http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2012/01/ron_paul_was_right_on_cuba.html
 
Good, but you do realize that non-Americans have been vacationing in Cuba for decades, right? And the process you explain of them opening their eyes has begun.

There are daily flights from almost every major Canadian city. Direct of course, because US airports won't allow our planes to depart for Cuba from US soil.
 
"American companies would love to see a new trading partner open up a mere 90 miles away from US soil. But a small number of big names have been able to do embargo-era business with the island nation for some years now.

When the Trade Sanctions Reform and Export Enhancement Act of 2000 lifted part of the trade embargo (allowing specific products to be exported, such as agricultural products and medical supplies), those firms have been doing brisk business with Cuba, supplying roughly 96% of Cuba’s rice imports and 70% of their poultry and meat.

In 2001, Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) was the first domestic outfit to do business with Cuba in 40 years. Cargill followed shortly thereafter, and exports of US corn, cattle, wine, cigarettes, and other foodstuffs began flowing south.

In October 2002, the US Food & Agribusiness Exhibition in Havana drew 20,000 Cubans who wanted to taste things they never had before -- among them, products from Hormel (HRL), Tyson Foods (TSN), and Wrigley.

Sequin pointed out that while the definition of an “agricultural product” is broad enough to allow for wooden utility poles (an export quite valuable to the state of Alabama), railroad ties, and newsprint, completing a sale is tricky.

“It’s a real hassle because of the restrictions,” he said. “For example, Cuba has to pay in cash through a third country; companies could do millions and millions of dollars in sales if the US would get out of the way.”

Sequin also noted out that medical sales are severely limited by regulations put in place by the US Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control.

“There are a lot of restrictions on what a medical ‘device’ is, which is totally different than medical ‘equipment,’” he said. “A hospital bed with a motor on it, for example, might be prohibited for export while one without isn't. Obama lifted restrictions on US telecoms doing business in Cuba, but AT&T (T) or Sprint (S) aren’t going to Cuba because of two things -- US regulations and the Castro government. Once you get past the US, you have to start dealing with the Cubans, so one way or the other you’re not really going to make any money. I get a couple of calls a week from businesses and entrepreneurs, and I preface everything by saying, ‘You’ll spend a lot of time and a lot of money on this, but you’ll probably lose both. I’ve seen people come and go; they all want to be the first ones in and all that. But you’ve got two hands tied behind your back -- all you can do right now is sort of look around, you can’t really do anything.”

One area of US-Cuba trade that merits mention involves American companies that had property nationalized after the Batista government fell.

“Seized property is a complicated situation,” Sequin said. “When Castro started taking over companies in ‘59 and ‘60, it’s my understanding that other countries around the world settled claims with Cuba, but the US did not. There are millions of dollars in Cuban bonds owned by people out there, but they’re not worth anything because there’s no settlement process in place. It’ll probably never happen, but if it does it might be for pennies on the dollar, after Castro falls.”

Oddly, the company with the largest property claim against the Castro government is OfficeMax (OMX). While OfficeMax never did business in Cuba, a 2003 merger with Boise Cascade made it a claimant to property controlled by Cuban Electric, a stake in which had been owned by a Florida company that Boise bought years earlier.

Other property claimants include ExxonMobil (XOM), as a predecessor company owned a refinery on the island, Starwood Hotels (HOT), which acquired ITT in 1998 -- a company that had property nationalized years earlier, Freeport-McMoRan (FCX), which once owned a nickel mine, later confiscated by the Castro regime, and Chase Manhattan Bank (JPM) which had 11 Cuban branches expropriated, though its claim is largely for the value of securities lost, not real estate.

Beyond the profit motive, a lifting of the Cuban trade embargo would, in many peoples’ minds, advance security as much as it would advance business interests."

Read more: http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2011/04/19/raul-castro-replaces-fidel-centrally/#ixzz1kQ8dy2tO

A Paul presidency would open the flood gates to trade and friendship with the Cuban people and government.
 
Santorum and Newton Leroy were just pandering their talking points as usual. That's how they come out as dumb and dumber.
 
we've been at war with Cuba for 50 years now. how's that going? there should be no will to continue this.

amazing
 
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