Ron Paul & voluntarists

[Cabal]

His entire speech today was a resounding advocacy of NAP and voluntaryism as far as I can tell.

 

[Cabal]

that is true.
ron did talk about the two choices... but had a government... but what was different in each example was the people.
a moral people will bring about a moral government.
a society of people that boo the golden rule produces the government we have today.

This is actually a common anarchist argument in so many words: "The only good government is one comprised entirely of angels."

The reality is people are not angels, and some people are not moral. This will always hold true. So if everyone must be moral and everyone in the government must be an angel for 'good' government to exist, well... that strikes rather Utopian.

 

[torchbearer]

This is actually a common anarchist argument in so many words: "The only good government is one comprised entirely of angels."

The reality is people are not angels, and some people are not moral. This will always hold true. So if everyone must be moral and everyone in the government must be an angel for 'good' government to exist, well... that strikes rather Utopian.

it can only happen by changing our neighbors minds.
we need to be 'ron pauls' in our own areas.

 

[Wesker1982]

Ron Paul said there should be

"No government monopoly over initiating violence"

A defense organization that does not initiate violence is a market entity

 

[Wesker1982]

Government Security is Just Another Kind of Violence. - Ron Paul

HMMMM, I wonder if anyone would interpret this headline as pro-government security?

http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2037

 

[Wesker1982]

Ron Paul's Voluntaryist Position on Government Owned Land

 

[Cabal]

 

[eduardo89]

LE, just for you

I was asked to post this:

I think it is hilarious the Philosophy forum at RonPaulForums.com is no longer hidden from public view.

I reckon now that Ron Paul is not running again they can let it out of the dungeon. I also wanted to convey kudo's to Conza for post #518 in this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?291050-Ron-Paul-amp-voluntarists/page18

If anyone can post at RPF, has the desire, and opportunity let Conza know LFoD:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?8321-Live_Free_Or_Die

really appreciated post #518.

If you click the last page of the Philosophy forum some of the old Truth Warrior threads are still there. Josh has probably banned more intellect than the site has acquired in the past year. Someone tell me all the old heated debates between minarchists and anarchists have not elevated the understanding of all posters at RPF. Hell look at comments in threads from 2007 versus 2013. It is night and day.

P.S. The Lowkey sock puppet can still KMA.

Cya around ...

 

[libertygold]

Sure, Ron Paul calls himself voluntaryist, but that doesn't mean for him that there should be no government, because he specifically rejected that idea.

Yeah but his haters will pretend he is an anarchist and opposed to the state, etc.

 

[Wesker1982]

 

[heavenlyboy34]

+rep

 

[Conza88]

OMG... Ahahah... LE, where are you? How about Trav? Newbitech?

I'm waiting for all of your apologies, or to admit you were wrong.


It cannot literally get anymore clear than that video. You know who else was wrong? Stefan Molyneux.

Notice: Ron Paul is no longer running for office, this time he has NO issue accepting the label.

I prefer not to regardless, but that is his prerogative. Just wow... I mean, I knew it, we and others said it, it was always as clear as day... but to hear it again is so sweet.

Ron Paul... putting all of you in your intellectually strategically stunted places.

#overthetop #responseto4yearsofmindlessattacksfromStatist trollsheredenyingreality

 

[Conza88]

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Yeah but his haters will pretend he is an anarchist and opposed to the state, etc.

It would appear from the latest video posted by Wesker that Ron Paul is, in fact a voluntarist, and is fine with the label of anarchist, so long as he can make it clear that the version of anarchism he is talking about is different than the violent, brick-throwing (leftist) version of anarchism.

So, libertygold, is Ron Paul "one of his haters"? A hater of himself?

 

[Conza88]

It would appear from the latest video posted by Wesker that Ron Paul is, in fact a voluntarist, and is fine with the label of anarchist, so long as he can make it clear that the version of anarchism he is talking about is different than the violent, brick-throwing (leftist) version of anarchism.

So, libertygold, is Ron Paul "one of his haters"? A hater of himself?

Precisely

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Once he started broadcasting Ron Paul Channel he really began speaking a lot more bluntly.

I was pointing out various episodes as they were coming out (and people were whining that Ron Paul is not an anarcho-capitalist, or that the things people post here might drive away conservatives).

Klamath might remember all of the transcripts I typed and posted that would have been chastised had I made the exact same point.

 

[Conza88]

https://www.facebook.com/Anarchast/?hc_ref=ARQO6A5bBq82IXxl9OvAwSnj62yYxHq-IaoNT1vxf7Q0rOb8iVsxjvz11aQSQ7CS_mM&fref=nf

[MENTION=660]LibertyEagle[/MENTION] - what say you?

 

[Conza88]

Can I get an answer - who changed the title of this thread?

It was: "Ron Paul re-confirms his voluntarism"

BTW

Not photo-shopped...

 

[PAF]

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