Ron Paul - The Secret Plan (the best Ron Paul posting ever)

[NinjaPirate]

Is the campaign going to demand a recount? if not tell me WTF is the use anymore?

A recount to salvage, what, at least 31 votes??? And like the person above me said, there's 2000+ delegates left. This is only the beginning. IA and NH were very sobering, and it knocked our morale down a few nothces, but lick your wounds and press on.

 

[Talldude1412]

Well here's hoping that campaigning is about to happen. Lets see if it does, in any case I will continue to spread the message and see who will listen. I will continue regardless of what happens on Feb 5th and beyond.

 

[jason43]

The other 2319 delegates? Losing hope at this point is ridiculous.

All hope is certainly not lost, but what is the plan? Lose everything till someone runs out of money???

Come on.... seriously. The way to get more money is to win states... or at least come in 3rd or better.

We need a clear campaign strategy to give hope to the grassroots.

I think that they could at least give us a statement saying what the plan is. Giuliani has said that Florida is his line in the sand, same about SC for Thompson... it rallies the troops. Right now, morale is in a downway spiral because no one is saying anything except "we aren't racists"... thanks Ken Snyder, I knew that already.

Racism=collectivism=not what we are about

How about what we are about? like putting Ron in the White House. How about the plan for that???? Not the whole plan, just a little more than send more money.

 

[NinjaPirate]

Well then, shouldn't we give them hope by ensuring that all votes are counted and that we are keeping a very close eye on the people counting. That the fraudsters that come up with an excuse of human error by discarding 100% of Ron Pauls votes in a single county is a bullshit excuse and obviously fraud, if it happened in one county you can bet there were many more. Look if we don't can this vote fraud it's over already, this is now the challenge the grassroots must deal with. If votes are not counted then what is the use of voting?

We're blacked out by the media, the corporate elite MSM HATES Dr. Paul, his supporters and The Message. We don't have much ground to stand on considering that we came in 4th, but it would be a different story if we were 2nd and fighting for 1st.

 

[Knowguy]

Wow This Thread Has Realy Cheered Me Up Tremendously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump......everyone Needs To Hear This!!!

 

[DowntownGator]

Ron Paul has run an underdog campaign before, and won! Last night, I had a little bit of an epiphany, and recognized this fight has only just begun. Ron Paul continues to add to his base of supporters every singly day - pretty soon it's going to reach critical mass and blow up. The longer he stays in the race, the more his message gets out and the more supporters he attracts. Looking for better showing in the very near future!

That's the plan.

 

[Cyclone]

I agree, starting a thread claiming that the campaign tried to lose on purpose is idiotic. It doesn't help anyone. It certainly doesn't make anyone feel better.

But again, this is the third and last time I will issue this challenge. WHO THE HELL IS WILLING TO WORK FOR RON PAUL?

So far not one of you whiners has agreed to do any actual campaigning for the man. If this is true, then you have no one to blame but yourselves. Going door to door is much different than waving a stupid sign at a motorist. The former takes WORK, something no one on here is willing to do.

I am not stopping. Not until it is over. But I sure as hell wish we had some backup from HQ. I am sick and tired of them standing in the way all the time and doing NOTHING.

I agree, campaign 10% get 10% of the vote. We can't do this alone.


Ron Paul is no longer adding to his base. He is losing his base. He is losing the people who have put their blood into this campaign and he can't win new folks because they view him as unelectable. We are in deep trouble right now and ignoring that fact is foolish.

The campaign needs to fire everyone and hire an actual group that can help him. It has worked for others in the past.

 

[Apparition]

You guys act like we don't have the number one thing on our side.. and that is the TRUTH.
A lot of people in this country recongize that there are problems going on but can't quite put their fingers on it.

This campaign started from nothing and you people are crying over three states?

What would be the point of campaigning in the media RIGHT now for Super Tuesday and then give the other campaigns ample time to respond. 2 weeks before the primaries is good enough... as the people we are trying to sway can still be swayed in that period of time as the other candidates beat up each other.

So far no clear winner has emerged at all and the campaign is right in the thick of things still.. the only problem with you guys is that you thought this was going to be easy and you're so quick to get upset and I'm not sure if you quite understand the gravity of the situation and the amount of resolve it takes to win an uphill battle.

War of attrition.

Stay postive and cling to the message and its TRUTH. It is still gestating in America and the fact that it is where it is today is all because of US and the ability to recognize the truth.

So dry your eyes.. put a bandaid on your emotions.. and MAN UP.

Ron Paul knows what he's doing and he knows what is at stake better than any of us.

 

[Berri]

Wow This Thread Has Realy Cheered Me Up Tremendously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump......everyone Needs To Hear This!!!

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but the reality is that it should cheer you up because even though vote fraud sucks and the people doing it should be hung for treason at least we know where we stand and know what we must do now. better than the campaign and thier super secret crap that leads no where. if we only achieve in fixing the vote scam industry than the RP revolution has won.

 

[Exarel]

bump

 

[Bowie]

I just don't see why there isn't HUGE dialogue between us and the official campaign staff, including Ron, Lew, Kent, Jesse and Jonathan.

If everyone joined forces and worked together constructively, and all the plans were laid out on the table and debated transparently, wouldn't that be a force to be reckoned with? It seems hypocritical for Ron to rebuke the secrecy of the central government, yet endorse cloak-and-dagger campaign strategies.

And "embarassments" (if Ron considers them such) like "The Hannity Chase" could be justly censured -- better: prevented -- had such dialogue taken place earlier.

I can't see how any "secret plan" is at an advantage by being kept secret from us.

 

[MrCobaltBlue]

Next paycheck I'm going to donate another $100 to Dr. Paul. I've ordered some signs and I'm going to stand out by the road on my lunch break and wave them and pass out slim jims as well as go door to door in my apartment building and campaign.

Even if we lose I want to know that I tried, not for just Dr. Paul but for the message.

 

[Apparition]

I just don't see why there isn't HUGE dialogue between us and the official campaign staff, including Ron and Jeff.

I can't see how any "secret plan" is at an advantage by being kept secret from us.

Because they don't KNOW us.. all we are is a bunch of people who claim Ron Paul and the best thing about a SECRET plan is to keep it a SECRET from those who might be coming here fishing for information.

If you support Ron Paul for president, then support his decision to run his campaign how he sees fit.

There's plenty of volunteering that can be done and coordinated via the MeetUp groups.. sign wavings help, handing out slimjims help. Bitching and moaning on his message board and potentially dividing the grassroots base directly does NOT help. You're free to do as you please, but seriously... just because you can't see the big picture from the campaign yourself doesn't mean that there isn't a big picture in place.

Do your parts by staying informed and staying resolved and staying steadfast.
Donate where you can.. get the word out where you can.. and be positive and intelligent about it. That's our job as supporters.

 

[John P Slevin]

Come on!

I just don't see why there isn't HUGE dialogue between us and the official campaign staff, including Ron, Lew, Kent, Jesse and Jonathan.

If everyone joined forces and worked together constructively, and all the plans were laid out on the table and debated transparently, wouldn't that be a force to be reckoned with? It seems hypocritical for Ron to rebuke the secrecy of the central government, yet endorse cloak-and-dagger campaign strategies.

And "embarassments" (if Ron considers them such) like "The Hannity Chase" could be justly censured -- better: prevented -- had such dialogue taken place earlier.

I can't see how any "secret plan" is at an advantage by being kept secret from us.

NO HALFWAY intelligent campaign discusses strategy on an open forum.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people use this and other public forums to discuss and devise campaign strategy.

When you see a quarterback call the linebacker into the huddle to hear the playcall, when you see THAT in even one game, let me know.

 

[Cyclone]

I cannot support his decision to run his campaign the way he sees fit because it is NOT WORKING.

I see what he is doing to win Super Tuesday - NOTHING. Not a blasted thing. I see what he did to win NH - NOTHING. He didn't bother to actually campaign there. I have spoken to HQ on many occasions. They are rude and drive away supporters. How can I support those kinds of actions?

Sticking your head in the sand and just saying have faith is idiotic. The man doesn't have one staffer who has ever worked on a Presidential campaign. Think you can win like that?

We might still have some time, but not if we continue to make the same mistakes and expect different results - they have a word for that, it is called insanity.

Sign wavings do not help. This is not a football game. The Meetup groups are flailing because they have no direction. They never have.

Never before in history has a man had so much help and made zero use of it. Ignoring the grassroots has been a huge blunder. If they continue, then they will continue to have a bunch of ignorant children doing stupid things that hurt him and cost him votes. These folks don't know what to do, they need direction. Instead, they vandalize money, spray paint towns, and fly blimps that make us look like a circus with Ron Paul being the ring leader.

No one wants a ring leader to lead a country. We are the joke campaign and for good reason. People screaming about conspiracies left and right meanwhile no one is willing to do any real work.

In my state it is too late to win any independents - the mainstay of his campaign. That is true in most states. So, now they want to start advertising? It is as if no one bothered to look up the rules and they are all flying blind.

Faith is useless. Action needs to be taken and now.

 

[John P Slevin]

Also, almost NO ONE on this list uses their actual name, their physical address, or ANY other contact information other than anonymous contact info.

WHO THE HELL COULD TRUST THAT?

GET HALF A BRAIN, all you who call for strategy to be discussed on various public fora...GET JUST HALF A BRAIN...that's all you need to understand the folly of the Ron Paul campaign, discoursing with complete strangers, completely anonymous people about exactly what they plan to do.

Oh yeah, some completely anonymous people are upset...we have to get with them real quick, hear their concerns, and satisfy them...also, we MUST give all our opponents immediate access to our plans.

That's the ticket.

INCREDIBLY STUPID!

 

[Maltheus]

I've been fairly emotional over all of this (for me anyway), and my thoughts have been all over the board. But that post really did a lot to re-energize me. More so than any other I've seen. I've never really gotten involved with a campaign before and I'm finally starting to realize the depth of my ignorance. In any case, I'll be riding this out through super tuesday at least and let the chips fall where they may. I submitted my form to fill a vacant precinct committee person slot yesterday (Colorado deadline today) and with 10 delegate positions for my precinct, I'm sure to be a delegate. The challenge is as it has always been, educating the people who've never even heard of Ron Paul. And that's an uphill battle worth fighting.

 

[Apparition]

I cannot support his decision to run his campaign the way he sees fit because it is NOT WORKING.

I see what he is doing to win Super Tuesday - NOTHING. Not a blasted thing. I see what he did to win NH - NOTHING. He didn't bother to actually campaign there. I have spoken to HQ on many occasions. They are rude and drive away supporters. How can I support those kinds of actions?

Sticking your head in the sand and just saying have faith is idiotic. The man doesn't have one staffer who has ever worked on a Presidential campaign. Think you can win like that?

We might still have some time, but not if we continue to make the same mistakes and expect different results - they have a word for that, it is called insanity.

Sign wavings do not help. This is not a football game. The Meetup groups are flailing because they have no direction. They never have.

Never before in history has a man had so much help and made zero use of it. Ignoring the grassroots has been a huge blunder. If they continue, then they will continue to have a bunch of ignorant children doing stupid things that hurt him and cost him votes. These folks don't know what to do, they need direction. Instead, they vandalize money, spray paint towns, and fly blimps that make us look like a circus with Ron Paul being the ring leader.

No one wants a ring leader to lead a country. We are the joke campaign and for good reason. People screaming about conspiracies left and right meanwhile no one is willing to do any real work.

In my state it is too late to win any independents - the mainstay of his campaign. That is true in most states. So, now they want to start advertising? It is as if no one bothered to look up the rules and they are all flying blind.

Faith is useless. Action needs to be taken and now.

Dude.. there are plenty of people working on the campaign.
Sign waving gets name recognition out. When done in decent sized numbers, it also shows that there are others who believe and show passion for their candidate.. and when you're in your car and you hear other people around you honking at the signs, it also shows that NORMAL people are behind the candidate... it works.

Fuck the polls dude... and fuck your defeatist "I NEED TO KNOW NOW!" attitude and acting like you're the only guy on the planet that knows what Ron Paul needs to do to win.

Faith and the truth is what started this campaign and got it through to what it is today.
Actions based on the above HAVE and CONTINUTE to be taken. So seriously, chill out. If you don't feel enough is being done, then start with YOURSELF, bu don't come crying here about things not being done because progress has been and continues to be made. I assure you that nobody is being inspired by anything you've said in this thread and that's what people need is inspiration.

 

[mikeInAZ]

Also, almost NO ONE on this list uses their actual name, their physical address, or ANY other contact information other than anonymous contact info.

WHO THE HELL COULD TRUST THAT?

GET HALF A BRAIN, all you who call for strategy to be discussed on various public fora...GET JUST HALF A BRAIN...that's all you need to understand the folly of the Ron Paul campaign, discoursing with complete strangers, completely anonymous people about exactly what they plan to do.

Oh yeah, some completely anonymous people are upset...we have to get with them real quick, hear their concerns, and satisfy them...also, we MUST give all our opponents immediate access to our plans.

That's the ticket.

INCREDIBLY STUPID!

Exactly. They are not going to be posting their campaign stragegy meeting notes in all the Ron Paul public forums, and we don't want them to. All campaign strategies are a secret, not just this one, right?

I like the sound of this plan though. It's going to be AWESOME, and we're all going to feel bad for being so negative. Get ready for the blitz!

 

[yaz]

Ron Paul made fewer appearances in NH than all the other candidates I believe. Same goes for Iowa. This is the factor that needs to be changed.

The "secret strategy"? That's poppycock, we needed the momentum.