Ron Paul-The Coronavirus Hoax: Overhyped To Bring About More Tyranny
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99 Percent of COVID-19 Bug Cases Do Not Require Medical Treatment Data From South Korea Shows
True, this isn't like the flu — it's FAR MILDER …
Are people dying of covid-19 or with covid-19?
The data from South Korea, where tracking the coronavirus has been by far the best to date, indicate that as much as 99 percent of active cases in the general population are “mild” and do not require specific medical treatment. The small percentage of cases that do require such services are highly concentrated among those age 60 and older, and further so the older people are. Other things being equal, those over age 70 appear at three times the mortality risk as those age 60 to 69, and those over age 80 at nearly twice the mortality risk of those age 70 to 79. ...
South Korea promptly, and uniquely, started testing the apparently healthy population at large, finding the mild and asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 other countries are overlooking. The experience of the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which houses a contained, older population, proves the point. The death rate among that insular and uniformly exposed population is roughly 1 percent. [Cruise tourists are also older than the general population.] …
The deaths have been mainly clustered among the elderly, those with significant chronic illnesses such as diabetes and heart disease, and those in both groups. …
True, this isn't like the flu — it's FAR MILDER …
Are people dying of covid-19 or with covid-19?
The data from South Korea, where tracking the coronavirus has been by far the best to date, indicate that as much as 99 percent of active cases in the general population are “mild” and do not require specific medical treatment. The small percentage of cases that do require such services are highly concentrated among those age 60 and older, and further so the older people are. Other things being equal, those over age 70 appear at three times the mortality risk as those age 60 to 69, and those over age 80 at nearly twice the mortality risk of those age 70 to 79. ...
South Korea promptly, and uniquely, started testing the apparently healthy population at large, finding the mild and asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 other countries are overlooking. The experience of the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which houses a contained, older population, proves the point. The death rate among that insular and uniformly exposed population is roughly 1 percent. [Cruise tourists are also older than the general population.] …
The deaths have been mainly clustered among the elderly, those with significant chronic illnesses such as diabetes and heart disease, and those in both groups. …
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German Virologist of International Renown Warns Government Lockdowns Are a Horrible Mistake, Will Make Crisis Worse
Prof. Dr. Karin Mölling, … is an internationally renowned virologist and AIDS researcher
Highlights:
Prof. Dr. Karin Mölling, … is an internationally renowned virologist and AIDS researcher
Highlights:
- …“what’s going on right now is what we experience more or less every winter. This was particularly noticeable two years ago with influenza, the flu. The test for SARS-Corona 2 was not yet known. It may well be that this virus played a part. Nobody knows.”
- “You are now told every morning how many SARS-Corona 2 deaths there are. But they don’t tell you how many people already are infected with influenza this winter and how many deaths it has caused. … Something similar occurred two years ago. This is not put into the right context.”
- “Maybe one should not do so much against young people having parties together and infecting each other. We have to build immunity somehow. How can that be possible without contacts? The younger ones handle the infection much better.”
- “20 dead again, how terrible! … If there are 20,000. Then we get close to what went on completely quietly two years ago.” …
- … “The disease per se is like the flu in a normal winter. It is even weaker in the first week.
- “People in China all have a cough. This is called Beijing Cough. This is a cough because they already have lungs damaged by air pollution.”
- “the SARS-Corona 2 tests has not been validated, not really checked.” …
- “I was asked on TV what I thought about old people going for a walk. I can only say: Yes, they should do it. Fresh air is good, that dilutes; anyone can imagine that. The second thing that’s good about it is the sun. Ultraviolet light kills viruses. This is good in children’s playgrounds; it is good for children when they do sports outside. It’s good outside! Being more outside is the best.”
- “And under no circumstances a curfew!” …
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Prof. Dr. med. Sucharit Bhakdi : Reality vs Hype and Hysteria (turn on subtitled)
[video=youtube;JBB9bA-gXL4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=JBB9bA-gXL4&feature=emb_logo[/video]
The doctor:
“This is the incredible tragedy, because all these measures are actually senseless.
“[The government measures] are grotesque, absurd and very dangerous.”
“The life expectancy of millions is being shortened.”
“The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people. The consequences on medical care are profound. Already services to patients who are in need are reduced, operations cancelled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling. All of this will impact profoundly on our whole society. ”
“All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide over nothing but a spook.”
[video=youtube;JBB9bA-gXL4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=JBB9bA-gXL4&feature=emb_logo[/video]
The doctor:
“This is the incredible tragedy, because all these measures are actually senseless.
“[The government measures] are grotesque, absurd and very dangerous.”
“The life expectancy of millions is being shortened.”
“The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people. The consequences on medical care are profound. Already services to patients who are in need are reduced, operations cancelled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling. All of this will impact profoundly on our whole society. ”
“All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide over nothing but a spook.”
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Stanford Professors for WSJ: Covid-19 Fatality Rate Estimates Too High by Orders of Magnitude
Dr. Eran Bendavid and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professors of medicine at Stanford, conclude the current estimates about the Covid-19 fatality rate may be too high by orders of magnitude. They point to the significant “denominator problem” often discussed here by those who are familiar with advanced modeling. …
projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high.
Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate 2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 … So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, two million to four million could die. … that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.
Population samples from China, Italy, Iceland and the U.S. provide relevant evidence. … the percentage who tested positive was 0.9%. If this was the prevalence in the greater Wuhan area on Jan. 31, then, with a population of about 20 million, greater Wuhan had 178,000 infections, about 30-fold more than the number of reported cases. The fatality rate, then, would be at least 10-fold lower than estimates based on reported cases.
Next, the northeastern Italian town of V, near the provincial capital of Padua. On March 6, all 3,300 people of V were tested, and 90 were positive, a prevalence of 2.7%. Applying that prevalence to the whole province (population 955,000), which had 198 reported cases, suggests there were actually 26,000 infections at that time. That’s more than 130-fold the number of actual reported cases. Since Italy’s case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, the real fatality rate could in fact be closer to 0.06%. …
Tens of thousands of people traveled from Wuhan to the U.S. in December. Existing evidence suggests that the virus is highly transmissible and that the number of infections doubles roughly every three days. An epidemic seed on Jan. 1 implies that by March 9 about six million people in the U.S. would have been infected. As of March 23, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 499 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. If our surmise of six million cases is accurate, that’s a mortality rate of 0.01%, assuming a two week lag between infection and death. This is one-tenth of the flu mortality rate of 0.1%. Such a low death rate would be cause for optimism.
A universal quarantine may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community and individual mental and physical health. We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns. …
Dr. Eran Bendavid and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professors of medicine at Stanford, conclude the current estimates about the Covid-19 fatality rate may be too high by orders of magnitude. They point to the significant “denominator problem” often discussed here by those who are familiar with advanced modeling. …
projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high.
Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate 2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 … So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, two million to four million could die. … that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.
Population samples from China, Italy, Iceland and the U.S. provide relevant evidence. … the percentage who tested positive was 0.9%. If this was the prevalence in the greater Wuhan area on Jan. 31, then, with a population of about 20 million, greater Wuhan had 178,000 infections, about 30-fold more than the number of reported cases. The fatality rate, then, would be at least 10-fold lower than estimates based on reported cases.
Next, the northeastern Italian town of V, near the provincial capital of Padua. On March 6, all 3,300 people of V were tested, and 90 were positive, a prevalence of 2.7%. Applying that prevalence to the whole province (population 955,000), which had 198 reported cases, suggests there were actually 26,000 infections at that time. That’s more than 130-fold the number of actual reported cases. Since Italy’s case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, the real fatality rate could in fact be closer to 0.06%. …
Tens of thousands of people traveled from Wuhan to the U.S. in December. Existing evidence suggests that the virus is highly transmissible and that the number of infections doubles roughly every three days. An epidemic seed on Jan. 1 implies that by March 9 about six million people in the U.S. would have been infected. As of March 23, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 499 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. If our surmise of six million cases is accurate, that’s a mortality rate of 0.01%, assuming a two week lag between infection and death. This is one-tenth of the flu mortality rate of 0.1%. Such a low death rate would be cause for optimism.
A universal quarantine may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community and individual mental and physical health. We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns. …
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New York is a different world.
It's a packed city and people talk inches from each other's faces. I am Midwest boy and I tend to stand six feet away from people anyway.
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385 deaths have been attributed to coronavirus in New York state. That's 0.002% of the population.
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Prof Who Predicted 500K UK Deaths Now Says Under 20K Will Die
Imperial College London's Neil Ferguson - who originally estimated 500,000 deaths in the UK due to Coronavirus, now says … that UK deaths from the disease are now unlikely to exceed 20,000, according to NewScientist. … now says that … over 1/2 of those it will kill would have died by the end of the year anyway because they were so old and sick.
His reasoning is that estimates of the virus's transmissibility are much higher than previously thought - and that many more people have gotten it than we realize, making it less dangerous overall. … many more people have already gotten it than we realize - which in turn implies it is less dangerous. …
Meanwhile, a report from Oxford University suggests that … more than 50% of the population has likely had the virus and recovered.
This has caused the British government to downgrade Coronavirus from being an acute, deadly, infectious disease, as noted by Armstrong Economics. … [only] 3-10% of those who have recovered from the virus still test positive afterwards. …
Ferguson's … July 16th paper reportedly catalyzed the Trump administration into its current course of action.
Imperial College London's Neil Ferguson - who originally estimated 500,000 deaths in the UK due to Coronavirus, now says … that UK deaths from the disease are now unlikely to exceed 20,000, according to NewScientist. … now says that … over 1/2 of those it will kill would have died by the end of the year anyway because they were so old and sick.
His reasoning is that estimates of the virus's transmissibility are much higher than previously thought - and that many more people have gotten it than we realize, making it less dangerous overall. … many more people have already gotten it than we realize - which in turn implies it is less dangerous. …
Meanwhile, a report from Oxford University suggests that … more than 50% of the population has likely had the virus and recovered.
This has caused the British government to downgrade Coronavirus from being an acute, deadly, infectious disease, as noted by Armstrong Economics. … [only] 3-10% of those who have recovered from the virus still test positive afterwards. …
Ferguson's … July 16th paper reportedly catalyzed the Trump administration into its current course of action.
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NY Governor Cuomo Backpedals, Admits Total Quarantine Was Mistake
Sweeping statewide quarantine orders may not have been the most effective strategy to combat the coronavirus, Gov. Andrew Cuomo conceded … “We closed everything down.” … “If you re-thought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don’t know that you would say ‘Quarantine everyone.'” …
“I don’t even know that that was the best public health policy. … [it] was probably not the best public health strategy,” he said. … “Don’t isolate everyone because some people, most people, are not vulnerable to it.” …
Sweeping statewide quarantine orders may not have been the most effective strategy to combat the coronavirus, Gov. Andrew Cuomo conceded … “We closed everything down.” … “If you re-thought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don’t know that you would say ‘Quarantine everyone.'” …
“I don’t even know that that was the best public health policy. … [it] was probably not the best public health strategy,” he said. … “Don’t isolate everyone because some people, most people, are not vulnerable to it.” …
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