Ron Paul supporters now working on two pre-RNC festivals

I'm not arguing in favor of one or another act. I'm not arguing in favor of Bassnectar specifically. I just don't see that many people showing up if they don't have something good to do. This is a music festival with some politics in it right? Buy $77 dollars worth of acts. There are just not that many people who are going to want to buy that product.

Hey, 2 days ago, my position was that this was worthless and shouldn't be done unless there was a point to it. Now I'm saying that if you want a lot of people there, you're gonna have to provide a lot more. And I'm not saying this should be free, or that there should be free beer, but you have compelling stuff for hours and hours for 3 days, and Schiff and Stanhope isn't quite enough. Are these guys planning 12 hour sets? 3 days, get 3 legit headliners. And fill in with a lot of sonic bids bands.

Nah, I'm talking about Schiff and Stanhope being part of it. Minneapolis in 2008 was all political, and no music, right?

Personally, I'd love to meet a crowd of people who have been making this same fight for 10, 5, or 1 year, and even better if there are performers, and even better if there are a few big performers there. I'd love to see bassnectar. lol. I know what a draw that is, but we're trying to draw RP fans. But if I saw a bunch of RP people hanging around campfires, that could be pretty rewarding as well. I think some of us (I) see it as a political festival with music and speakers mixed in, and that explains our divide quite a bit.

Holding it during the convention (one of our major disagreements in threads) would not allow the Paul delegates to attend if they wanted, and I see that as unfair. Those are people who have thrown themselves into the fire. I'd appreciate seeing them honored somehow for all of the work they've done. Once it is convention time, they are back to work. It's a bit much to ask them to do both, but I think it's fully appropriate to give them a choice to do both. If the festival runs concurrenly with the convention, we're wearing our biggest supporters too thin.

I think the organizers feel they can fill 3 days worth of something. And with a 3 day pass, you can pick and choose, hang out at the campsite, or whatever.
 
Ron Paul just announced his rally on Sunday 26th afternoon and in the evening (day before convention).
Paulfestival people should contact Ron Paul and get him to have that rally as part of Paulfestival!!!!!
Maybe last day (afternoon and evening should be free entrance)
Someone really should contact both sides and ask them for their point of view..... also urge them to sit together and put their differences aside and work together. I know that there are bad feelings and that some got his feelings hurt but they are on the same side and they should work together.

Someone contact them. Please.

Let me know what they told you and what will it take for them to unite again.
 
Nah, I'm talking about Schiff and Stanhope being part of it. Minneapolis in 2008 was all political, and no music, right?

Personally, I'd love to meet a crowd of people who have been making this same fight for 10, 5, or 1 year, and even better if there are performers, and even better if there are a few big performers there. I'd love to see bassnectar. lol. I know what a draw that is, but we're trying to draw RP fans. But if I saw a bunch of RP people hanging around campfires, that could be pretty rewarding as well. I think some of us (I) see it as a political festival with music and speakers mixed in, and that explains our divide quite a bit.

Holding it during the convention (one of our major disagreements in threads) would not allow the Paul delegates to attend if they wanted, and I see that as unfair. Those are people who have thrown themselves into the fire. I'd appreciate seeing them honored somehow for all of the work they've done. Once it is convention time, they are back to work. It's a bit much to ask them to do both, but I think it's fully appropriate to give them a choice to do both. If the festival runs concurrenly with the convention, we're wearing our biggest supporters too thin.

I think the organizers feel they can fill 3 days worth of something. And with a 3 day pass, you can pick and choose, hang out at the campsite, or whatever.

I don't know what happened in Minnesota. And I'm not saying Schiff and Stanhope shouldn't be part of it. I personally don't think there should be much comedy, but Schiff is one I would expect to be there.

Ideally, this would have the performers who have said good things about Ron Paul. Kelly Clarkson. I mean, she said a couple nice things about Ron Paul and we moved her up the charts. Ideally, she'd fly into Tampa on the day she has off. She's in the Northeast, on tour, but she could make it. We would want to get those people, ideally, but it doesn't look like that's happening. So, you're gonna have to fill the time. And they should just buy a headliner.

Did you hear http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cOHlN5JWsw8
Ron Paul Message to Supporters

Ron Paul ANNOUNCED A RALLY for Sunday afternoon and evening August 26, and he said he wants it to be big.

So, there, that's the one. So, you go there on Friday, park your RV, on Sunday you go to the official Ron Paul event - which might be at Paul Festival -
and then back to Paul Festival where your RV is, and then the convention.
 
Ron Paul just announced his rally on Sunday 26th afternoon and in the evening (day before convention).
Paulfestival people should contact Ron Paul and get him to have that rally as part of Paulfestival!!!!!
Maybe last day (afternoon and evening should be free entrance)
Someone really should contact both sides and ask them for their point of view..... also urge them to sit together and put their differences aside and work together. I know that there are bad feelings and that some got his feelings hurt but they are on the same side and they should work together.

Someone contact them. Please.

Let me know what they told you and what will it take for them to unite again.

I was thinking the same thing. Afternoon and evening free.
 
The iTickets site has a lot of them listed. If you're into Christian stuff, you're all set.

I know that Purple Door isn't free, and that's a pretty good Christian festival.

Community festivals are often free. The Old Port Festival was free in Portland, ME last weekend.
 
I don't know what happened in Minnesota. And I'm not saying Schiff and Stanhope shouldn't be part of it. I personally don't think there should be much comedy, but Schiff is one I would expect to be there.

Ideally, this would have the performers who have said good things about Ron Paul. Kelly Clarkson. I mean, she said a couple nice things about Ron Paul and we moved her up the charts. Ideally, she'd fly into Tampa on the day she has off. She's in the Northeast, on tour, but she could make it. We would want to get those people, ideally, but it doesn't look like that's happening. So, you're gonna have to fill the time. And they should just buy a headliner.

Did you hear http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cOHlN5JWsw8
Ron Paul Message to Supporters

Ron Paul ANNOUNCED A RALLY for Sunday afternoon and evening August 26, and he said he wants it to be big.

So, there, that's the one. So, you go there on Friday, park your RV, on Sunday you go to the official Ron Paul event - which might be at Paul Festival -
and then back to Paul Festival where your RV is, and then the convention.

Didn't Stanhope endorse Obama?
 
And about your bands. Well. I'm pro Topete, don't get me wrong. I put Poker Face on a "parocks" night 13 years ago. But Poker Face isn't exactly the kind of headliner that will satisfy thousands or tens of thousands of festival goers that are comparison shopping.

IIRC, back from the 08 philly rally. poker face was not allowed to be involved in the official event because of some issues with content/message.
 
Didn't Stanhope endorse Obama?

If so, that would be pretty disappointing. He's a self described libertarian, and his stand up routine sounds like your average sarcastic libertarian to me.


This is from wikipedia...

2008

Stanhope then endorsed libertarian-leaning Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.[19]

In August 2008, Stanhope endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, citing his disappointment with the libertarian candidates and a desire to have "a strong, handsome black man in the White House", as well as referring to himself as "the head of the one-man Libertarians for Obama group."[20]

Doesn't sound very serious, though.
 
Who is running Freedom Fest? Is it Gary Johnson and his supporters, or someone else?


Nice try.


Freedom Festival 2012 Announced in time for GOP Convention

JUNE 11, 2012 · POSTED IN PRESS RELEASES

Ron Paul Supporters to put on World Class Event for Everyone

Tampa, Fla., June 8, 2012.


It’s official. FREEDOM FESTIVAL 2012 has confirmed that its World class festival, a celebration of freedom, liberty and dreams, will be hosted by Fantasy of Flight, an attraction and exhibition facility located between Orlando and Tampa Florida. FREEDOM FESTIVAL 2012 will run from August 24 through August 26, 2012, and will offer live music and entertainment for the whole family. The event is expected to officially kick off the GOP nominating convention promoting a message of “INCLUSION” and will focus on Constitutional adherence, bringing together supporters of all GOP campaigns as well as Libertarians and Independents for 3 days of music, education and family fun.

The festival’s Activities Director, Chris Scarano stated, “all festival goers are in for a wonderful time at Freedom Festival 2012. We will be bringing in world renowned recording artists, comedians, celebrities and speakers to perform at and attend the event”. Headlining the line-up will be Blues Traveler and there will be musical genres for all tastes including Rock, Country and Hip Hop performing on one of the 3 stages. “We will be offering exciting activities for adults to participate in as well as an area of activities dedicated to children. There will also be themed areas where festival attendees can enjoy historical reenactments celebrating liberty and freedom as well performances such as the signing of the Declaration of Independence and several Revolutionary War reenactments” added Chris.

Celebrated author and dynamic talk radio personality, Josh Tolley, one of the top 100 business trainers in the World, will be lending his support to Freedom Festival 2012. “I’m thrilled to know Freedom Festival is taking place. Those who support Ron Paul’s message were worried that Freedom and Liberty wouldn’t find a home in Florida. Now, with Freedom Festival, we have an opportunity to prove to the world why Freedom and Liberty not only have a home in Florida, but in the hearts of all people who call themselves Americans”, commented Josh. Also offering his services as a Board member and Speaker for FREEDOM FESTIVAL 2012 will be primetime anchor as well as writer, host and producer of Reality Check, Ben Swann.

The festival is set to the backdrop of destination exhibit “Fantasy of Flight”, which is located right off the I-4 corridor between Orlando and Tampa. This 200 acre venue offers large open areas and multiple hangers as well as a conference facility. We will feature a VIP dining area, a VIP Liberty Club, an indoor concert arena, as well as an outdoor concert stage and many activities and vendors. Ticket prices have been confirmed at $20.12 per day, or a 3 day Freedom Pass for $50.00, children under 12 will be $2.00.

“The idea behind this festival is to bring Americans together, united under the tenets of the U.S Constitution.” Commented Zak carter, Assistant Director of Communication for Freedom Festival 2012.

The Grassroots for Liberty SuperPAC is committed to supporting Freedom Festival 2012. The goal of Grassroots for Liberty is to provide a forum through which it can promote the message of freedom and liberty, which is a vision shared by Freedom Festival 2012. “This is going to be a monumental event….” Zak added.

About Freedom Festival 2012

Freedom Festival 2012 was born through a vision shared by all Ron Paul supporters, to promote liberty into the mainstream. The goal of the event is to welcome all constitutionally like-minded Americans and bring together people of all political beliefs for a celebration of liberty, freedom and fun for all!

For more information on Freedom Festival 2012, visit the organizations website at http://www.freedomfestival2012.com
Source: Freedom Aid, Inc.

Contact:
Grassroots for Liberty SuperPAC
Zak Carter, PR Director
[email protected]

http://1787network.com/2012/06/freedom-festival-2012-announced-in-time-for-gop-convention/4788
 
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Sounded like a legit question to me. Have you seen their website?

http://www.freedomfestival2012.com

The first image to load is a big pic of Gary Johnson, and it sits there awhile.

Interesting. Zak Carter is PR Director for the competing event. Now it makes sense why they are having this one also. Zak is a snake in the grass and in league with the other snakes in the grass like Kokesh. Dr. Paul wouldn't attend this one for sure.
 
Originally Posted by LibertyEagle
Who is running Freedom Fest? Is it Gary Johnson and his supporters, or someone else?


Nice try.


Sounded like a legit question to me.


Really? The extravaganza with the elusive details "suddenly" has full-blown COMPETITION FOR ATTENDEES, and a reasonable speculation is that the dark horse with NO warchest and less than 1% chance of winning is probably the genesis and juice behind the second festival?
 
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Really? The extravaganza with the elusive details "suddenly" has full-blown COMPETITION FOR ATTENDEES, and a reasonable speculation is that the dark horse with NO warchest and less than 1% chance of winning is probably the genesis and juice behind the second festival?


I guess I can say this again if I need to... If you take a look at their website, a giant pic of Gary Johnson hangs there for many seconds. I don't claim to know anything else about it or whoever is running it.
 
Have you seen their website?

http://www.freedomfestival2012.com

The first image to load is a big pic of Gary Johnson, and it sits there awhile.


Freedom Festival apparently ASKED Gary Johnson to be a guest speaker (which is quite different from CELEBRITY HEADLINER), and Gary Johnson apparently said YES.


Ron Paul Supporters Plan “Freedom Festival 2012″ in Tampa During GOP Convention

By Joseph Forester Warren on 06/16/2012


New political and journalistic leaders are beginning to emerge that have rallied around Ron Paul’s presidential aspirations as a potent symbol of their movement. These leaders are considered to be “anti-establishment” by their followers who believe the mainstream politics of the two-party system is a failure and caters only to the special interests of the “elite,” and not to the interests of the middle class. These rising leaders include figures such as Josh Tolley, Adam Kokesh, Randi Shannon, and Representative Justin Amash.

Josh Tolley, an independent who refers to himself as a “preservative” meaning that he wants to preserve affiliation to the people and not parties, is a rising leader in the growing, self-described “Liberty Movement.” He discusses topics ranging from religion and politics to business and travel on his talk radio show for the Genesis Communications Network. His show airs 9am to 11am Central from Monday to Friday with over 5 million combined listeners in over 100 countries (Tolley). In the process, Tolley educates his audience on his perspective of limited government and provides his own analytical insight of the Constitution in the process.

He often hosts guests on his show, such as Randi Shannon who is running for Iowa State Senate. Tolley also established a YouTube page where he uploads every audio recording of his weekday radio show. This unique and ingenious method has attracted an audience with a more broad range of “liberal” or “conservative” ideals who all identify with his “freedom message,” and has simultaneously shared his supporters with the growing movement at a more local level.

Tolley is the Freedom Festival 2012 spokesperson, a festival scheduled during the GOP Tampa Convention, located in Tampa, that is expected to welcome Americans from across the spectrum of political affiliation. Sources recently revealed to me that the Libertarian candidate for president this year, Gary Johnson, will be a guest speaker along with his VP running mate.

Gary Johnson has released a PDF comparison chart of himself and the other two primary presidential candidates, attempting to appeal to libertarian and independent voters. The chart is supposed to convey each candidates’ true personal messages of liberty through their voting record. The Freedom Festival site displays a quote from Tolley on the about page referring to specific beliefs the festival is geared towards:

“We’re a growing group of RON PAUL SUPPORTERS, TEA PARTY ACTIVISTS, LIBERTARIANS and other politically affiliated Americans who believe the time has come to form a new CONSTITUTIONAL MOVEMENT where citizens rights and freedom’s are put first over politics, capital cronyism and the nanny state.”

I was recently able to reach Tolley to ask him a couple questions on future plans:

What do you hope to accomplish with the Freedom Festival 2012? “First, I want to continue fight to advance liberty, defend freedom, and hold government leaders responsible in a manner that Ron Paul has championed for so long. Second, I want the liberty movement to expand as we welcome freedom lovers from all political backgrounds, and third, I want to send a message to the political establishment that the days of parties blindly leading my fellow countrymen off the proverbial cliff are over. The people are becoming educated, motivated, and strategic in their involvement towards their nation. Once again becoming an active citizenry.”

“Do you have any more future plans to help orchestrate the “Liberty Movement?” “Yes, I have a number of events booked that carry political weight and look forward to expanding those efforts greatly. In addition I’m working on two major projects outside my show in an effort to advance the liberty movement. One is a documentary film (my first) entitled “Foreign and Domestic: Exposing America’s True Enemies“ and the other is the formation and launch of a television network; LiberTV, which will finally give the majority of Americans who don’t want political divide as a resource for news, info, and entertainment.”

It appears that even with the recent message from Ron Paul, informing his mostly libertarian and independent supporters that he is ceasing to campaign, but not dropping out, that the Liberty Movement is just as robust as ever.


Tags: freedom fest, freedom festival, freedom festival 2012, gop, Republican National Convention, RNC, Ron Paul, tampa

http://ivn.us/2012/06/16/ron-paul-supporters-plan-freedom-festival-2012-tampa-during-gop-convention/


Who will be the keynote speaker at PAUL FEST (latterly Ron Paul Festival)?
 
I guess I can say this again if I need to... If you take a look at their website, a giant pic of Gary Johnson hangs there for many seconds. I don't claim to know anything else about it or whoever is running it.


I have nothing to do with either festival, and "know" only what I find online.

I guess I will repeat something, too: If "Liberty Lovers" & "Freedom Fighters" cannot get their shit together behind a single end-of-the-season-AND-end-of-an-era festival, they do not have a PRAYER of getting their shit together behind a single presidential candidate.
 
I guess I can say this again if I need to... If you take a look at their website, a giant pic of Gary Johnson hangs there for many seconds. I don't claim to know anything else about it or whoever is running it.

And not surprisingly, they aren't telling us who's running it. They have a venue, a major band, Gary Johnson and David Boaz as speakers, etc., and yet they have not told us who the organizers for this festival is.

On their own website they just list the board as "Coming Soon". http://www.freedomfestival2012.com/board/

Zak Carter, snake in the grass, has been the only face of this festival so far. I know what this is and hope others figure it out before they decide to go to this and support it.
 
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