Ron Paul Suing LA-GOP (2008)

[pcosmar]

Good luck with that.

Boxes so far,
Soap Box-check
Ballot box-check
Jury box- working
Ammo box- waiting.

Feel free to use this image,

 

[torchbearer]

I am doubtful about this claim, there is no reason they would not have issued a press release announcing the action without going into details (not saying that it wouldn’t happen, but I doubt you would be hearing about it via Ron Paul Forums or Local Meetups, this would come as a Press Release from HQ and be much more thoughtful).

It doesn’t seem likely after the NH recount decision and in the middle of the race; a lawsuit at this juncture would sink the campaign. Typically these type of lawsuits occur months (or years as evidence by Nader’s recent lawsuits) after the election process has finished.

If anything this type of speculation is going to hurt the campaign (that is why RP moved to stomp out the recount stuff). Just make sure you know who you are e-mailing and giving your information too...

This isn't speculation. WTF are you talking about?
We are sharing info with you that we have gotten from the official campaign as a privilege to you and to others so you know what is going on...

And yes, the campaign cannot make a big public deal out of it without repercussions.
You haven't a clue what you are talking about... We had a 40 page thread discussion on this topic.
We as a grassroots were lining up our own attorney until we recieved an email that same night from our "official campaign paid state coordinator" sent to all of our meet-up organizers an email that was disseminated to us... and then shared with you.

Read this thread to get caught up: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=110440
It will help you keep your foot out your mouth.

 

[torchbearer]

This is the guy I'm advocating for the job.

http://www.lawyers.com/Louisiana/New-Orleans/Booth-and-Booth-597063-f.html

I already have one of the top attorney's waiting on the sideline if HQ doesn't get on the ball.

I sent this email:

I've been robbed of a state alternate delegate spot, along with many other people because of some fishy/ fraud like activity conducted by the LAGOP.

Here is kind of my layman's summary of the institutional laws i'm looking at... what my grievances are... and info i'd need to prove my case.

If you don't handle these kinds of cases.. could you refer me to someone who can...



from RNC rules: http://www.gop.com/About/Rules11-20.htm



RULE NO. 14
Participation

(a) The Republican National Committee shall assist the states in their efforts to inform all citizens as to how they may participate in delegate selection procedures.
The states, in cooperation with the Republican National Committee, shall prepare instructive material on delegate selection methods and make it available for distribution.






RULE NO. 15
Election of Delegates and Alternate Delegates


e) Certification and filing by state committees.

(1) On or before the first Tuesday in September of the year before the year in which the national convention is to be held,
each Republican state committee shall adopt rules, procedures, policies, and instructive materials (prepared pursuant to Rule No. 14(a))
governing the selection of delegates and alternate delegates to the national convention to convene during the following year
and shall certify and file with the secretary of the Republican National Committee true copies of the same
and of all statutes governing the selection of such delegates and alternate delegates.


RULE NO. 16
Enforcement of Rules

If a state or state party is determined to be in violation:

(1) No member of the Republican National Committee from the offending state
shall be permitted to serve as a delegate or alternate delegate to the national convention.

(2) After the Republican National Committee members are excluded from being part of the offending state’s delegation to the national convention,
the state party shall determine which of the state’s remaining delegates (and corresponding alternate delegates)
are entitled to serve as part of the state’s reduced delegation to the national convention.


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SHORT answer:


On or before the first Tuesday in September,
each Republican state committee shall adopt rules, procedures, policies, and instructive materials,

inform all citizens as to how they may participate, make it available for distribution,

and shall certify and file with the secretary of the Republican National Committee true copies of the same.


If a state or state party is determined to be in violation,

no member of the Republican National Committee from the offending state shall be permitted to serve
as a delegate or alternate delegate to the national convention.


The state party shall determine which of the state’s remaining delegates and alternate delegates are entitled to serve
as part of the state’s delegation.


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My grievances that can be proven:



1. The LAGOP changed the dates of delegate qualification at the last minute to allow for more opposition delegates to be added once they saw our huge slate of candidates when RNC rules declare they must be set in Sept.
2. They did not notify the citizens of how to participate
3. Having a voter list up to Nov 1 at a caucus whose rules stated you had to registered by Nov 30th. They knew via the SOS that there was a huge influx of republican in November, why would they not have a list up to november 30th if it wasnt to disenfranchise.
4.Automatic Delegates running as unelected delegates on the ballots to keep spots away from other delegates.



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What I need to prove my case:



What I need: The LAGOP filing with the RNC regarding its caucus selection process in September.
Also- official copy of LAGOP party by-laws regarding the elections of state delegates.

To my friend at this law firm: http://www.goodelawyer.com/

The Goode Law Firm
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Year Established: 1986
Firm Profile:
With over thirty-five (35) years legal experience, including having been a United States Magistrate Judge as well as a Federal and State Criminal Prosecutor, in addition to many years in private practice, William L. Goode is able to provide competent and thoughtful, but assertive legal services to a wide variety of clients. Mr. Goode is licensed to practice law in Louisiana as well as Texas and can practice law in many other jurisdictions on a pro hac vice basis.
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Rate Information:
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William L. Goode (Member) born Shreveport, Louisiana, May 16, 1946; admitted to bar, 1972, Louisiana; 2001, Texas. Education: Texas A & M University (B.A., 1968); Louisiana State University (J.D., 1971). United States Magistrate Judge, Lafayette-Opelousas Division, U.S. District Court for the Western Division of Louisiana, 1980-1983. Assistant U.S. Attorney, U.S. District Court, Western District of Louisiana, 1977-1980. Chief of Criminal Section, 1979-1980. Assistant District Attorney, Caddo Parish, Louisiana, 1974-1977. Special Assistant Attorney General, State of Louisiana, 1990-2003. Deputy Attorney General, State of Alabama, 2004-2006. Practice Areas: Criminal Defense; Personal Injury; Maritime Accidents; Wrongful Death; Civil Rights. Email: William L. Goode
OF COUNSEL
Michael S. O'Brien (Of Counsel) born Lafayette, Louisiana, November 29, 1953; admitted to bar, 1980, Louisiana. Education: Loyola University (B.A., Philosophy, 1976; J.D., 1979); Tulane University (LL.M., Admiralty, 1980). Law Clerk to Hon. William L. Goode, Magistrate, U.S. District Court, 1980-1982. Trial Counsel, Aetna Casualty & Surety Co., 1983-1987. Practice Areas: Personal Injury; Maritime Accidents; Wrongful Death; Civil Rights. Email: Michael S. O'Brien

 

[IcyPeaceMaker]

Very cool, great work, looks like they are going to need some more short hairs, we have them by the ones they used to have.

 

[raystone]

This is Louisiana. I've got a better idea. Get a very well-connected attorney.

lol, so true

 

[Rex]

I would send my name along but I need more info than just "we are going to sue"..

 

[noodles1_tx]

Good Job TorchBearer!!!

 

[IcyPeaceMaker]

I would send my name along but I need more info than just "we are going to sue"..

Read back on page one, I posted the letter from LA-HQ, the contact info is in there, ask them what they need.

 

[Sey.Naci]

I would send my name along but I need more info than just "we are going to sue"..

From further up the thread, the following is an email sent from RP LA Field Director:

Subj: Plaintiffs

Good Evening Folks,

As you all know, we are suing the Republican Party of Louisiana for mishandling the entire caucus process and attempting to walk off with our victory. However, we need people (our delegates) to be the plaintiff's in the case. Please speak with the delegates in your district and find several delegates and alternates that are willing to put their names down on the suit as plaintiffs.


Please send me the names of the people who are willing as soon as possible.

Thanks!

--
Andrew Axsom
Louisiana Field Director
Ron Paul 2008
www.ronpaul2008.com

If you're a LA delegate or alternate, then you're someone Andrew would like to hear from.

 

[Inflation]

We need a press release to go out to Drudge and Digg ASAP.
If we can get this into the 10pm and am news cycles it would be fantastic!

 

[Rex]

From further up the thread, the following is an email sent from RP LA Field Director:

If you're a LA delegate or alternate, then you're someone Andrew would like to hear from.

What is Andrew's number?

 

[torchbearer]

What is Andrew's number?

number sent to pm./

 

[IcyPeaceMaker]

Email: [email protected]

 

[Sandra]

Hey Rex! Are you signed up?

 

[pepperpete1]

I posted this in grassroots central, but just in case you missed it:

http://deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com/2008/01/louisiana-gop-caucus-results-results.html


Quick analysis from Lew Rockwell on this development:

Ronald Reagan Wins Louisiana Caucus

1. The coalition delegate slate will be split 4 ways at the state convention, and Paul may have more than any one candidate.

2. Paul supposedly has most of the alternate delegate slots, most of which were uncontested. So if somebody doesn't show up or is ruled ineligible, a Paul delegate can step up.3. If half of Paul's supporters did indeed cast provisional ballots, these results from the Shreveport times are utterly meaningless.

So when the LAGOP is found in violation of party rules and state statutes Ron Paul can still win!

 

[torchbearer]

I posted this in grassroots central, but just in case you missed it:

http://deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com/2008/01/louisiana-gop-caucus-results-results.html


Quick analysis from Lew Rockwell on this development:

Ronald Reagan Wins Louisiana Caucus

1. The coalition delegate slate will be split 4 ways at the state convention, and Paul may have more than any one candidate.

2. Paul supposedly has most of the alternate delegate slots, most of which were uncontested. So if somebody doesn't show up or is ruled ineligible, a Paul delegate can step up.3. If half of Paul's supporters did indeed cast provisional ballots, these results from the Shreveport times are utterly meaningless.

So when the LAGOP is found in violation of party rules and state statutes Ron Paul can still win!

You are awesome!
You are great at finding things... putting them together, in a timely fashion. I could use someone like you in my congressional campaign, and eventually congressional office. no kidding.

If you ever get bored and are looking for something to do... dig up all the info/dirt you can on my opponent Rodney Alexander.
Starting with his crappy voting record... on through to his connection with the Mark Foley scandal... through his last minute switch to the republican party to keep out opposition... etc.
With your keen ability to find info, I'd love to see what you can find!

Heck, if others want to help out in that manner, let me know.. I'll make another thread, and we can compile the info there.

 

[torchbearer]

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[tribute_13]

Good Evening Folks,

As you all know, we are suing the Republican Party of Louisiana for mishandling the entire caucus process and attempting to walk off with our victory. However, we need people (our delegates) to be the plaintiff's in the case. Please speak with the delegates in your district and find several delegates and alternates that are willing to put their names down on the suit as plaintiffs.

Please send me the names of the people who are willing as soon as possible.

Thanks!

--
Andrew Axsom
Louisiana Field Director
Ron Paul 2008
www.ronpaul2008.com
318-332-2225

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation."
-- General Douglas MacArthur

This is only in Louisiana I presume.... correct?

 

[pepperpete1]

This is only in Louisiana I presume.... correct?

As far as I Know

 

[Sandra]

Roger Villere is in a hurry!

http://thepage.time.com/letter-from-louisiana-gop-chair/

Letter from Louisiana GOP ChairFrom: Roger Villere, Jr.
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:23 PM
To: John Yob
Subject: John McCain

February 1, 2008

Mr. John Yob

John McCain for President

Dear John:

I have received additional information this afternoon that I thought you would like to know.

I am writing to offer my congratulations to Senator McCain for his victory in the Louisiana Caucuses. With a majority of the state convention delegates committed to him, including the majority in five of our seven congressional districts, Senator McCain will win 41 of Louisiana’s 47 delegates to the Republican National Convention.

Here’s how it will break down:

20 at-large delegates, elected statewide by a majority of state convention delegates*,

3 at-large delegates, elected by the Executive Committee (a majority have endorsed Senator McCain)

3 RNC Members (all three are automatic delegates and have endorsed Senator McCain)

15 congressional district delegates (Three each in CDs 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7).

Congratulations, again. We look forward to seeing Senator McCain and you back in Louisiana soon!

Sincerely,

Roger F. Villere, Jr.

Chairman

Republican Party of Louisiana

* based on another candidate not winning more than 50% in the February 9, 2008 Primary.