Ron Paul started the Tea Party

[PatriotOne]

You are all wrong but tired of trying to correct the history of the modern day Tea Party...you all STILL get it wrong every freaking time a thread like this comes up. Here's a clue though...it started in 2006 and didn't have anything to do with Ron Paul at the time.

 

[JK/SEA]

You are all wrong but tired of trying to correct the history of the modern day Tea Party...you all STILL get it wrong every freaking time a thread like this comes up. Here's a clue though...it started in 2006 and didn't have anything to do with Ron Paul at the time.

whatever.

WE made the modern day Tea Party for Ron Paul, and thats all that matters. WE made it happen, and WE made it huge. Too bad TEA-O-CONS hi-jacked it.

 

[PatriotOne]

whatever.

WE made the modern day Tea Party for Ron Paul, and thats all that matters. WE made it happen, and WE made it huge. Too bad TEA-O-CONS hi-jacked it.

Yup. Why let truth get in the way of a good self congratulatory self pat on the back.

 

[JK/SEA]

Yup. Why let truth get in the way of a good self congratulatory self pat on the back.

Truth?...what truth?...technically, the FIRST Tea Party was in Boston, so your hissy fit is irrelevant.

 

[Valli6]

Ron Paul was the catalyst

Yup. Why let truth get in the way of a good self congratulatory self pat on the back.

Truth?...what truth?...technically, the FIRST Tea Party was in Boston, so your hissy fit is irrelevant.

This is probably a reference to a tea party held by 9/11 truth seekers which has been brought up in this forum before. Be that as it may, I don’t see that as the start of any tea party "movement". There have been other tea party protests even before that.

In the 80’s there was some kind of political protest referred to as a “tea party”, where people were mailing tea bags to the president or congress - I can barely remember this. This is probably what a few of the older people were thinking about in the later tea parties, when they started using tea bags as props at these events.

I’ve even seen the ad for a “tea party” protest from the 50’s, which someone posted here (I think it was here). It was being organized by the John Birch Society. Most likely there have always been “tea parties”.

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The distinction of the Ron Paul Tea Party, is that it STRONGLY focused on revolt against the status quo and upholding the Constitution. It revived respect for the founding fathers and what they’d accomplished. It is the reason Gadsen flags and the phrase “Don’t tread on Me” became popular again. It was also a national protest - there were dozens of separate Tea Parties held across the country on the same day. Even a few in other countries!

When the establishment wanted to corral the “tea party” to serve their own purposes - OURS was the movement they were copying! Using foxnews to heavily publicize "their" tea party, they borrowed the imagery and rhetoric we had come up with (provided it didn’t mention Ron Paul’s name). For them, it was just a marketing scheme to save the establishment GOP. But they got it from here and there’s no two ways about it!
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Incidently, that wiki entry is all over the place. It’s obvious that there has been much editing by those with agendas; i.e. trying to establish it had nothing to do with Ron Paul, giving credit to others for "starting" the tea party (even though they were later and/or were NOT actually "tea parties"), claiming it was entirely the idea of the Koch brothers in the 80’s or 90’s - much ridiculousness. The entry is forever evolving because some people desperately want it NOT to involve Ron Paul!

 

[dude58677]

Ron and Rand Paul founded the Tea Party and are both in charge of the Tea Party. The establishment tried to co-opt it but failed as Rand Paul became the GOP front runner and proudly declares at every big speech "I have a message for the Tea Party..."!

 

[teaparty]

Rand Paul is not anything like his dad, okay.

 

[devil21]

Ron and Rand Paul founded the Tea Party and are both in charge of the Tea Party. The establishment tried to co-opt it but failed as Rand Paul became the GOP front runner and proudly declares at every big speech "I have a message for the Tea Party..."!

He has said "I have a message from the Tea Party...", not for it.

Rand Paul is not anything like his dad, okay.

Huh? His positions are very similar to Ron's positions. Rand's more politically palatable about them than Ron was, for reasons that should be obvious to most by now.

 

[RandyPAA]

"Ron Paul started the Tea Party"

Not then-Congressman Ron Paul himself, but his supporters did start it...on December 16, 2007 (the 234th anniversary of the original Boston Tea Party held on December 16, 1773).

 

[RandyPAA]

"The original Tea Party movement was essentially derived from the Ron Paul Revolution in 2007 when it actually stood up for free enterprise, individual liberty and fiscal responsibility; nevertheless, it has long been infiltrated and co-opted by neoconservative corporatists in response to the obamainations in early 2009."



Hello, Aspie Minarcho-Capitalist. I've been wanting to know exactly what the original/true/real modern Tea Party stood for and stood against for the sake of historical accuracy. So far, this is what I've found:

--personal/individual liberty (as long as one does not infringe on fellow human beings' rights and cause physical harm and death on them)

--a very limited Constitutional government (the federal/national government's powers stripped down and reduced to staying within the confines of the U.S. of A. Constitution, it's Bill of Rights, and it's remaining amendments)

--respect for the rule of law

--a free-market economy

--sound money (auditing and ultimately abolishing the Federal Reserve, repealing the 16th Amendment [abolishing the income tax in other words] as well as returning to the gold standard...)

--a non-interventionist (as opposed to isolationist) foreign policy: non-interventionist like Switzerland and not isolationist like North
Korea

--skepticism towards the President


Additionally, the original/true/real modern Tea Party believe in what John Randolph (who was a part of the tertium quids) of Roanoke, Virginia described:

--Love of peace

--hatred of offensive war (offensive, undeclared war that is)

--jealousy of the state governments toward the general government

--a dread of standing armies

--a loathing of public debt, taxes, and excises

--tenderness for the liberty of the citizen

--jealousy, Argus-eyed jealousy, of the patronage of the President


And lastly, in addition to abolishing the IRS as well as FEMA, Homeland Security, the TSA, etc., the original/true/real modern Tea Party are against and want the following abolished (as per the Austin, TX December 16 2007 Tea Party which included dumping "tea boxes" on Austin's Town Lake [now it's called Lady Bird Lake]):

Neocons, IMF, World Bank, the national debt, Amnesty (for people illegally here in the U.S. of A.), Gun Control, FBI, NATO, Fascism, Statism, Iraq War, Iran War, Patriot Act, NAU (North American Union), Big Government, National ID Card, Open Borders, GITMO, Water Boarding (torture)



Am I correct so far in stating everything the original/true/real modern Tea Party advocated and opposed?

Also, is far more accurate to say that the original/true/real modern Tea Party was robbed of its name and momentum (and not infiltrated, hi-jacked, and co-opted) by the establishment-backed Republicans, Neoconservatives, RINOs, fake conservatives, corporatists and opportunists (all completely separate from the grassroots, Ron Paul supporters)?

 

[Theocrat]

When It Began

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Hey theocrat, haven't seen you for a long time.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

ron didnt start the teaparty. his supporters did right here on this forum. since then it has been hijacked by people like glen beck and others like him. it was good when the original intent made waves, but it soon was taken over by the msm and crooked leaders wanting a bite of the grassroots.


can someone with a wiki account edit this to fit what happened for real? maybe even include the links that bryan posted proving it started here with the supporters?

EDIT: i was here starting around june 2007 iirc under "flair1111". lost my original account and then made this one in jan 2008. i remember all of this as is stated in the links.

Me too. I was here starting the summer of 2007, and lost my account information by the time Ron Paul ran the second time, but I remember most of the discussions. I was "B" then (for Benjamin Franklin). The only person I've really stayed in contact with was the coordinator of the Ron Paul blimp. (blump)

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

old clips from 2007 teaparty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bNiDx7qTjA

 

[Theocrat]

Lurking In and Out

Hey theocrat, haven't seen you for a long time.

Oh, I've been around.

 

[RandyPAA]

Yes, which was birthed right here on this website by members.

For example, here is the post where the tea party website was announced on the day it was registered back on 10/24/2007:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ea-Party-Plans&p=310818&viewfull=1#post310818

This forum has over 10,000 posts to plan the tea party:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?244-Tea-Party-Weekend-12-15-16-Planning

And this forum has over 17,000 posts when we carried out the tea party:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?191-Tea-Party

Hello Bryan. I'm actually new to this forum. Thanks for mentioning that the original/true/real modern Tea Party was born on this website by members (back then) as well as posting the threads pertaining to the said original/true/real modern Tea Party website being announced on the day it was registered back on 10/24/2007, the 10,000 posts to the plan the said Tea Party, and the more than 17,000 posts when you carried out the said Tea Party. The links that you provided helps a lot. Bryan, I've been wanting to know exactly what the original/true/real modern Tea Party stood for and stood against...all for the sake of historical accuracy. So far, this is what I've found:

--personal/individual liberty (as long as one does not purposely infringe on fellow human beings' rights, not purposely cause physical harm on them, and not commit premeditated first-degree murder)

--a very limited Constitutional government (the federal/national government's powers stripped down and reduced to staying within the confines of the U.S. of A. Constitution, it's Bill of Rights, and it's remaining amendments)

--respect for the rule of law

--a free-market economy

--sound money (auditing and ultimately abolishing the Federal Reserve, repealing the 16th Amendment [abolishing the income tax in other words] as well as returning to the gold standard...)

--a non-interventionist (as opposed to isolationist) foreign policy: non-interventionist like Switzerland and not isolationist like North Korea

--skepticism towards the President


Additionally, the original/true/real modern Tea Party believe in what John Randolph (who was a part of the tertium quids) of Roanoke, Virginia described:

--Love of peace

--hatred of offensive war (offensive, undeclared war that is)

--jealousy of the state governments toward the general government

--a dread of standing armies

--a loathing of public debt, taxes, and excises

--tenderness for the liberty of the citizen

--jealousy, Argus-eyed jealousy, of the patronage of the President


And lastly, in addition to abolishing the IRS as well as FEMA, Homeland Security, the TSA, etc., the original/true/real modern Tea Party are against and want the following abolished (as per the Austin, TX December 16 2007 Tea Party which included dumping "tea boxes" on Austin's Town Lake [now it's called Lady Bird Lake]):

Neocons, IMF, World Bank, the national debt, Amnesty (for people illegally here in the U.S. of A.), Gun Control, FBI, NATO, Fascism, Statism, Iraq War, Iran War, Patriot Act, NAU (North American Union), Big Government, National ID Card, Open Borders, GITMO, Water Boarding (torture)



Am I correct so far in stating everything the original/true/real modern Tea Party advocated and opposed? I ask because I've asked about the above platform before in mainly comments/replies sections on some websites and so far I haven't gotten too many responses (except for at least a couple).

Also, is it far more accurate to say that the original/true/real modern Tea Party was robbed of its name and momentum (and not infiltrated, hi-jacked, and co-opted) by the establishment-backed Republicans, Neoconservatives, RINOs, fake conservatives, corporatists and opportunists (all completely separate from the grassroots, Ron Paul supporters)? I ask because someone known as "COMALite J" (who acknowledges that the original/true/real modern Tea Party was started by Ron Paul supporters on December 16, 2007) made a convincing point that outsiders stole the original/true/real modern Tea Party's name and momentum from its creators.

 

[teaparty]

...and Ron Paul will be proven right eventually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

The origins of the current Tea Party movement can be traced back to circa 2007. The movement's beginnings were kick-started by Republican Congressman Dr. Ron Paul in 2007. His GOP presidential campaign received a 24-hour, record breaking, money bomb on December 16, 2007;[SUP][22][/SUP] which is the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. This event directly contributed to creating a libertarian revival and divide in the Republican Party.[SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP] Ron Paul continues to be a prominent force in the Tea Party movement, such as endorsing Tea party candidates,[SUP][26][/SUP] and also giving talks and speeches alongside prominent Tea party activist, and 2008 Vice Presidential candidate, Sarah Palin.[SUP][27][/SUP][SUP][28][/SUP]

The democrats/government just changed it...this was up for a year and now they panicked and changed it to

In 2002, the first Tea Party movement website was designed and published by Citizens for a Sound Economy and stated "our US Tea Party is a national event, hosted continuously online and open to all Americans who feel our taxes are too high and the tax code is too complicated."[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP] According to Fox News Channel commentator Juan Williams, the Tea Party movement emerged from the "ashes" of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential primary campaign.[SUP][25][/SUP]

 

[RandyPAA]

The democrats/government just changed it...this was up for a year and now they panicked and changed it to

In 2002, the first Tea Party movement website was designed and published by Citizens for a Sound Economy and stated "our US Tea Party is a national event, hosted continuously online and open to all Americans who feel our taxes are too high and the tax code is too complicated."[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP] According to Fox News Channel commentator Juan Williams, the Tea Party movement emerged from the "ashes" of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential primary campaign.[SUP][25][/SUP]

I wonder why that wikipedia posting was changed from this:

The origins of the current Tea Party movement can be traced back to circa 2007. The movement's beginnings were kick-started by Republican Congressman Dr. Ron Paul in 2007. His GOP presidential campaign received a 24-hour, record breaking, money bomb on December 16, 2007;[SUP][22][/SUP] which is the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. This event directly contributed to creating a libertarian revival and divide in the Republican Party.[SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP] Ron Paul continues to be a prominent force in the Tea Party movement, such as endorsing Tea party candidates,[SUP][26][/SUP] and also giving talks and speeches alongside prominent Tea party activist, and 2008 Vice Presidential candidate, Sarah Palin.[SUP][27][/SUP][28][SUP][/SUP]

To[SUP][/SUP] this:

In 2002, the first Tea Party movement website was designed and published by Citizens for a Sound Economy and stated "our US Tea Party is a national event, hosted continuously online and open to all Americans who feel our taxes are too high and the tax code is too complicated."[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP] According to Fox News Channel commentator Juan Williams, the Tea Party movement emerged from the "ashes" of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential primary campaign.[SUP][25][/SUP]