Ron Paul Speaks: The Internet Censorship Scandal & Possible Solutions

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZk3QCaGgdI


In the wake of the Censorship Scandals against Alex Jones, Peter Van Buren, Scott Horton & Daniel McAdams, the master himself, Dr. Ron Paul, gives his view on what is going on and some of the things which maybe should happen. Here's to hoping Kim Dotcom gets his social media network off the ground soon!
 
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Senate Moves To Seize The Internet - Do We Need More Government Censorship?

Senate Moves To Seize The Internet - Do We Need More Government Censorship?



A leaked memo from Sen. Mark Warner's office details a plan for the US government to massively interfere in the Internet. They want to "protect" us from "fake news" and from foreign influence. Will the US government acting more like the Chinese or Iranian governments really protect us from "bad guys"?
 
Senate Democrats Are Circulating Plans for Government Takeover of the Internet

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A leaked memo circulating among Senate Democrats contains a host of bonkers authoritarian proposals for regulating digital platforms, purportedly as a way to get tough on Russian bots and fake news. To save American trust in "our institutions, democracy, free press, and markets," it suggests, we need unprecedented and undemocratic government intervention into online press and markets, including "comprehensive (GDPR-like) data protection legislation" of the sort enacted in the E.U.

Titled "Potential Policy Proposals for Regulation of Social Media and Technology Firms," the draft policy paper—penned by Sen. Mark Warner and leaked by an unknown source to Axios—the paper starts out by noting that Russians have long spread disinformation, including when "the Soviets tried to spread 'fake news' denigrating Martin Luther King" (here he fails to mention that the Americans in charge at the time did the same). But NOW IT'S DIFFERENT, because technology.

"Today's tools seem almost built for Russian disinformation techniques," Warner opines. And the ones to come, he assures us, will be even worse.

Here's how Warner is suggesting we deal:

  • Mandatory location verification: The paper suggests forcing social media platforms to authenticate and disclose the geographic origin of all user accounts or posts.

  • Mandatory identity verification: The paper suggests forcing social media and tech platforms to authenticate user identities and only allow "authentic" accounts ("inauthentic accounts not only pose threats to our democratic process...but undermine the integrity of digital markets"), with "failure to appropriately address inauthentic account activity" punishable as "a violation of both SEC disclosure rules and/or Section 5 of the [Federal Trade Commission] Act."

  • Bot labeling: Warner's paper suggests forcing companies to somehow label bots or be penalized (no word from Warner on how this is remotely feasible).

  • Define popular tech as "essential facilities": These would be subject to all sorts of heightened rules and controls, says the paper, offering Google Maps as an example of the kinds of apps or platforms that might count. "The law would not mandate that a dominant provider offer the service for free," writes Warner. "Rather, it would be required to offer it on reasonable and non-discriminatory terms" provided by the government.

Other proposals include more disclosure requirements for online political speech, more spending to counter supposed cybersecurity threats, more funding for the Federal Trade Commission, a requirement that companies' algorithms can be audited by the feds (and this data shared with universities and others), and a requirement of "interoperability between dominant platforms."

The paper also suggests making it a rule that tech platforms above a certain size must turn over internal data and processes to "independent public interest researchers" so they can identify potential "public health/addiction effects, anticompetitive behavior, radicalization," scams, "user propagated misinformation," and harassment—data that could be used to "inform actions by regulators or Congress."

And—of course— these include further revisions to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, recently amended by Congress to exclude protections for prostitution-related content. A revision to Section 230 could provide the ability for users to demand takedowns of certain sorts of content and hold platforms liable if they don't abide, it says, while admitting that "attempting to distinguish between true disinformation and legitimate satire could prove difficult."

"The proposals in the paper are wide ranging and in some cases even politically impossible, and raise almost as many questions as they try to answer," suggested Mathew Ingram, putting it very mildly at the Columbia Journalism Review.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/31/democrats-tech-policy-plans-leaked
 
Can't watch the video now, but I think a great solution would be for the ISP's to stand up and either throttle the speed of any site that selectively censors or to just charge them more.

Free market meet free market.
 
Can't watch the video now, but I think a great solution would be for the ISP's to stand up and either throttle the speed of any site that selectively censors or to just charge them more.

Free market meet free market.

I don't have the same amount of trust in the ISP's as you do; after all, it is ISP's and telecoms that handed over our personal information to the government without search warrants and without probable cause.

The ISP monopolies are pretty much as in bed with the government as the social media sites that use their platforms.
 
Warner's term ends in 2020 and Freitas almost won the primary. Maybe there's a shot we can pick him off in 2020 but it seems unlikely.

THIS is the stuff that's scary and Emperor Trump has expressed many similar thoughts. Of course the Trump-loving RPF authoritarian crew is going to ignore this and focus on defending their wannabe dictator.
 
I don't have the same amount of trust in the ISP's as you do; after all, it is ISP's and telecoms that handed over our personal information to the government without search warrants and without probable cause.

The ISP monopolies are pretty much as in bed with the government as the social media sites that use their platforms.

Oh no, I don't have any trust in the ISP's... It's just that their goals are in conflict with the social media websites. (I really think this whole "political speech game" is just a salvo in the net neutrality debate.) Both of those industries spent millions of dollars on opposite sides of the debate. They have opposing interests. That happens all the time in the free market and I'm suggesting that we use those opposing interests to keep the other in check.
 
Microsoft has threatened to cease hosting services for the alt-right social network Gab over two anti-Semitic posts, according to an email published by Gab founder Andrew Torba. The email claims the posts violate Microsoft policy and requests that Gab “promptly take appropriate action to resolve the complaint…within two business days” or hosting service will be suspended. If Gab is forced off Azure, Torba says service “will go down for weeks/months” as the company secures a new provider.
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https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/9/17671188/microsoft-gab-hate-speech-hosting-ban-deplatform

Never heard of Gab until today, but what a coincidence this timing is. Just as people were looking for alternatives to Twitter, Microsoft moves to shut down the (apparently alt-right friendly) competition.
 
I don't have the same amount of trust in the ISP's as you do; after all, it is ISP's and telecoms that handed over our personal information to the government without search warrants and without probable cause.

The ISP monopolies are pretty much as in bed with the government as the social media sites that use their platforms.

Oh no, I don't have any trust in the ISP's... It's just that their goals are in conflict with the social media websites. (I really think this whole "political speech game" is just a salvo in the net neutrality debate.) Both of those industries spent millions of dollars on opposite sides of the debate. They have opposing interests. That happens all the time in the free market and I'm suggesting that we use those opposing interests to keep the other in check.

It appears that ISPs, hosting services, any variety of necessary infrastructures can and will be shut down at any time.
 
Never heard of Gab until today, but what a coincidence this timing is. Just as people were looking for alternatives to Twitter, Microsoft moves to shut down the (apparently alt-right friendly) competition.
If Trump had moved to GAB they wouldn't dare.
 
Just because Chris Christie said so?

I was referring to service providers that can pull the plug, like Microsoft has threatened the Twitter competition.

But if government did take down a site with a politically correct excuse, it would probably stand.
 
A Four Person NATO-Funded Team Advises Facebook On Flagging 'Propaganda'

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This is not at all comforting: during a week that's witnessed Alex Jones' social media accounts taken down by Facebook, Apple, Spotify and Google, and what appears to be a growing crackdown against alternative media figures including several prominent Libertarians, notably the Ron Paul Institute director, and the Scott Horton Show, who found their Twitter accounts suspended — we learn that the Atlantic Council is directly advising Facebook on identifying and removing "foreign interference" on the popular platform.

While the initiative was initially revealed last May through an official Facebook media release, more details of the controversial think tank's role have been revealed.

Supposedly the whole partnership is aimed at bringing more objectivity and neutrality to the process of rooting out fake accounts that pose the threat of being operated by nefarious foreign states.

And yet as a new Reuters report confirms, Facebook is now itself a top donor to the Atlantic Council, alongside Western governments, Gulf autocratic regimes, NATO, various branches of the US military, and a number of major defense contractors and corporations.

What's more is that the team of four total individuals running the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab (DFR Lab) is headed by a former National Security Council advisor for the last four years of the Obama administration, Graham Brookie, who is also its founder.

Apparently the group's work has already been instrumental in Facebook taking action against over two dozen "suspicious pages" flagged potential foreign actors such as Russia. According to Reuters:

Facebook is using the group to enhance its investigations of foreign interference. Last week, the company said it took down 32 suspicious pages and accounts that purported to be run by leftists and minority activists. While some US officials said they were likely the work of Russian agents, Facebook said it did not know for sure.

This is indeed the shocking key phrase included in the report:"Facebook said it did not know for sure." And yet the accounts were removed anyway.

The Facebook-Atlantic Council alliance reportedly springs from the social media giant's finding itself desperate for outside "neutral" help after a swell of public criticism, mostly issuing from congressional leaders and prominent media pundits, for supposedly allowing Russian propaganda accounts to operate ahead of the 2016 elections.




And in perhaps the most chilling line of the entire report, Reuters says, "But the lab and Atlantic Council bring geopolitical expertise and allow Facebook to distance itself from sensitive pronouncements." This is ostensibly to defuse any potential conflict of interest arising as Facebook seems a bigger presence in emerging foreign markets.

Facebook’s chief security officer Alex Stamos recently told reporters, “Companies like ours don’t have the necessary information to evaluate the relationship between political motivations that we infer about an adversary and the political goals of a nation-state.” He explained further that Facebook would collect suspicious digital evidence and submit it to "researchers and authorities".

Since at least May when the relationship was first announced, the DFR Lab has been key to this process of verifying what constitutes foreign interference or nefarious state propaganda.

But here's the kicker. Reuters writes of the DFR Lab's funding in the following:

Facebook donated an undisclosed amount to the lab in May that was enough, said Graham Brookie, who runs the lab, to vault the company to the top of the Atlantic Council’s donor list, alongside the British government.

Facebook employees said privately over the past several months that Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg wants to outsource many of the most sensitive political decisions, leaving fact-checking to media groups and geopolitics to think tanks.

Facebook has defended the process as part of ensuring that it remains politically neutral, yet clearly [highlight]the Atlantic Council itself is hardly neutral, as a quick perusal of its top donors indicates[/highlight]:





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Among the DFR Labs partners include UK-based Bellingcat, which has in the past claimed "proof" that Assad gassed civilians based on analyzing YouTube videos and Google Earth. And top donors include various branches of the US military, Gulf states like the UAE, and notably, NATO.

The Atlantic Council has frequently called for things like increased military engagement in Syria, militarily confronting the "Russian threat" in Eastern Europe, and now is advocating for Ukraine and Georgia to be allowed entry into NATO while calling for general territorial expansion of the Western military alliance.

Further it has advocated on behalf of one of its previous funders, Turkish dictator Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and gave a “Distinguished International Leadership” award to George W. Bush, to name but a few actions of the think tank that has been given authorization to flag citizens' Facebook pages for possible foreign influence and propaganda[/highlight].

Quite disturbingly, this is Mark Zuckerberg's outside "geopolitical expertise" he's been seeking.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/august/08/a-four-person-nato-funded-team-advises-facebook-on-flagging-propaganda/
 
Oh no, I don't have any trust in the ISP's... It's just that their goals are in conflict with the social media websites. (I really think this whole "political speech game" is just a salvo in the net neutrality debate.) Both of those industries spent millions of dollars on opposite sides of the debate. They have opposing interests. That happens all the time in the free market and I'm suggesting that we use those opposing interests to keep the other in check.

Just trying to understand what you are saying: so you are saying that:

  • Twitter and Facebook spent millions of dollars for net neutrality so that the ISPs could not decrease their speed relative to other sites. ie. So that their sites work at the same speed as everyone else on the internet, which is what they have now.
  • The ISPs spent millions of dollars to end net neutrality so that they could profit on allowing monied sites to pay more if they wanted faster throughput than other sites.

So the ISPs would welcome a chance to throttle Twitter and Facebook because Twitter and Facebook have fought against having to pay more so their speed is not reduced? Is that right?

The last i heard is that there is some appeal in the Courts to stop the ending of Net Neutrality. But say that doesn't go anywhere and the ending of Net Neutrality comes to fruition for good. At this point, Twitter and Facebook can choose to pay more for faster throughput or allow their sites to become much slower by paying what they are now. At this point, i don't understand why an ISP would slow them down even further since they have already achieved the ending of net neutrality. And i would think an ISP could expect a lawsuit if it was found that they deliberately slowed down certain sites.

If the Courts decide Net Neutrality should stay, I still don't follow why the ISP's would slow down Twitter and Facebook? i guess revenge since the court decision would not allow them to soak people for more money than these corporate monopolies already soak us for, but they are in the business of providing a service and in addition to a lawsuit, they would be tarnishing their reputation.

I would think one solution would be for Peter Van Buren to sue Twitter. Appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary: let SCOTUS decide if these quasi government/corporate entities should have to respect the same Bill of Rights our Government has to. This becomes particularly true if Government funded NGO's such as the Atlantic Council get to decide which Twitter and Facebook accounts and posts should be censored.
 
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I Was Banned for Life From Twitter

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By Peter Van Buren • August 9, 2018

I became persona non grata after a heated exchange over the media's complicity with the government. The mob won.

When I was in Iran, the government there blocked Twitter, effectively deciding for an entire nation what they cannot read. In America, Twitter itself purges users, effectively deciding for an entire nation what they cannot read. It matters little whose hand is on the switch: government or corporate, the end result is the same. This is the America I always feared I’d see.

Speech in America is an inalienable right, and runs as deep into our free society as any idea can. Thomas Jefferson wrote that it flowed directly from his idea of a Creator, which we understand today as less that free speech is heaven-sent so much as that it is something that exists above government. And so the argument that the First Amendment applies only to the government and not to private platforms like Twitter is both true and irrelevant—and the latter is more important.

The government remains a real threat to free speech. But there is another menace now: corporate censorship, often dressed up in NewSpeak terms like “deplatforming,” restricting “hate speech” and “fake news,” and “terms of service.” This isn’t entirely new: corporations have always done as they please with speech. Our protection against corporate overreach used to rely on an idea Americans once held dear, best expressed as “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.” This ethos was core to our democracy: everyone supports the right of others to throw their ideas into the marketplace, where an informed people push bad ideas away with good ones. That system more or less worked for 240 years.

For lack of a more precise starting point, the election of Donald Trump did away with our near-universal agreement over the right to speak, driven by a false belief that too much free speech helped Trump get elected. Large numbers of Americans began not just to tolerate, but to demand censorship. They wanted universities to deplatform speakers they did not agree with, giggling over the old-timey First Amendment and taunting “conservatives” for not being able to do anything about it. But the most startling change came within the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which once embodied “defend the right, not the content” when it stood up for the free speech rights of Nazis in the 1970s.

Not anymore. The ACLU now applies a test to the speech cases it will defend, weighing their impact on other issues (for example, the right to say the N-word versus the feelings of people of color). The ACLU in 2018 is siding with those who believe speech should be secondary to other political goals. Censorship has a place, says the ACLU, when it serves what they determine is a greater good.

So in 2018, whenever old tweets clash with modern-day definitions of racism and sexism, companies fire employees. Under public pressure, Amazon recently removed “Nazi paraphernalia and other far-right junk” from its store. This was just some nasty Halloween gear and Confederate flag merchandise, but the issue is not the value of the products—that’s part of any free speech debate—it’s corporate censorship being used to stifle debate by, in this case, literally pulling items out of the marketplace. Alex Jones’ InfoWars was deplatformed from networks where it had been available for years, including Apple, YouTube (owned by Google), Spotify, and Amazon. The Huffington Post wondered why even more platforms haven’t done away with Jones.

“Hate speech,” clearly not prohibited according to the Supreme Court, is an umbrella term used by censorship advocates to describe anything they don’t want others to be able to listen to or watch. It is very flexible and thus very dangerous. As during the McCarthy-era in the 1950s when one needed only to label something “communist” to have it banned, so it is today with the new mark of “hate speech.”

Twitter is perhaps the most infamous example of a platform censoring its content. The site bans advertising from Russian media outlets. It suspends those who promote (what it defines as) hatred and violence, “shadow bans” others to limit the size of their audience, and tweaks its trending topics to push certain political ideas and downplay others. It purges users and bans “hateful symbols.” There are near-daily demands by increasingly organized groups to censor specific users, with Trump at the top of that list. Users can report other users so that Twitter can evaluate whether they should be suspended. The motivation is always the same: to limit the ideas people can choose to be exposed to.

The problem here is the trust people place in “good companies” like Amazon, Facebook, and Twitter. Anthropomorphizing them as Jeff, Zuck, and @jack is popular, as is extolling their “values.” It seems to make sense, especially now when many of the people making decisions on corporate censorship are the same age and hold the same political views as those demanding that they do it.

Of course, values shift, and what seems good to block today might change tomorrow. But the biggest issue is that companies exist to make money. You can’t count on them past that. Handing over free speech rights to an entity whose core purpose has nothing to do with free speech means it will inevitably quash ideas when they conflict with profits. Those who gleefully celebrate the fact that @jack who runs Twitter is not held back by the First Amendment and can censor at will seem to believe he will always yield his power in the way they want him to.

Google (until May) had a slogan commanding its employees: “don’t be evil.” Yet in China, Google is deploying Dragonfly, a version of its search engine that will meet Beijing’s demands for censorship by blocking websites on command. Of course, in China they don’t call it hate speech; they call it anti-societal speech, and the propaganda Google will block isn’t from Russian bots but from respected global media. Meanwhile, Apple removes apps from its store at the command of the Chinese government in return for market access. Amazon, which agreed to pull hateful merchandise from its store in the U.S., the same week confirmed that it is “unwaveringly committed to the U.S. government and the governments we work with around the world” in using its AI and facial recognition technology to spy on their own people. Faced with a future loss of billions of dollars, as was the case for Google and Apple in China, what will corporations do in America?

Once upon a time an easy solution to corporate censorship was to take one’s business elsewhere. In 2018, the platforms in question are near-global monopolies. Pretending Amazon, which owns the Washington Post and can influence elections, is just another company that sells things, is to pretend the role of unfettered debate in a free society is outdated. Censored on Twitter? Try Myspace, and maybe Bing will notice you. Technology and market dominance have changed the nature of censorship so that free speech is as much about finding an audience as it is about finding a place to speak. Corporate censorship is at the cutting edge of a reality targeting both speakers (Twitter suspends someone) and listeners (Apple won’t post that person’s videos made off-platform). Ideas need to be discoverable to enter the debate. In 1776, you went to the town square; in 2018, it’s Twitter.

Senator Chris Murphy, in a recent and ironic tweet, demanded that social media networks censor more aggressively for the “survival of our democracy,” implying that companies can act as proxies for those still held back by the First Amendment. Murphy already knows that companies can censor. The debate for us is over what happens when they do.

Let me end on a personal note. I was this week permanently suspended from my Twitter account, @wemeantwell. This followed an exchange I had with mainstream journalists over their unwillingness to challenge government lies in which I made a flippant remark no hotter than what you see on Twitter every day. Twitter sent an auto-response to me saying that what I wrote “harasses, intimidates, or uses fear to silence someone else’s voice.” I don’t think I did any of that, and I wish you didn’t have to accept my word for it. I wish instead you could have read my words and decided for yourself. But Twitter won’t allow it. They have eliminated everything I wrote there over the past seven years, all down the Memory Hole. That’s why censorship is wrong: it takes the power to decide what is right and wrong away from you and gives it to someone else.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/i-was-banned-for-life-from-twitter/
 
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